Posted: 3/21/2011 6:00:27 PM EDT
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I've had series 80 Colt 5" 1911's in the past, and I'm thinking about getting another.
I've never had a problem with the couple I owned in years past, and actually like the idea of it not going off if I drop it cocked & locked. Why all the hate for this model? |
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Quoted: I couldn't tell you. I owned one that was a transition model. (series 80 fire control with series 70 barrel and collet bushing). It worked fine for me and seemed like a well engineered solution. I regret having sold it. I had 5 other 1911s and needed the cash at the time. I firgured that the COLT would be easier to sell and would bring more money. I've had series 80 Colt 5" 1911's in the past, and I'm thinking about getting another. I've never had a problem with the couple I owned in years past, and actually like the idea of it not going off if I drop it cocked & locked. Why all the hate for this model? |
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Quoted: I've had series 80 Colt 5" 1911's in the past, and I'm thinking about getting another. I've never had a problem with the couple I owned in years past, and actually like the idea of it not going off if I drop it cocked & locked. Why all the hate for this model? I haven't noticed that much "hate" but those that don't like it are usually misinformed.  |
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I've had series 80 Colt 5" 1911's in the past, and I'm thinking about getting another. I've never had a problem with the couple I owned in years past, and actually like the idea of it not going off if I drop it cocked & locked. Why all the hate for this model? I haven't noticed that much "hate" but those that don't like it are usually misinformed. Back when the 80 series first came on the market, gunsmiths were able to get a much better trigger pull with a "70 series". This day and age they can get both so close it does not matter, the "70 series" is just easier. |
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The only problem I have with the series 80 system is that it can "get locked up" and make your gun inoperable (is that a word?). I know that this is very
rare, and most people never have it happen in a lifetime of shooting series 80s. That said I had it happen. I removed the firing pin plunger and spring (firing pin saftey) and replaced the frame levers with a spacer made to replace them. So no more problems like that for me. The moral of the story is if it makes you uncomfortable, you can remove it simply. If you can detail srtip a 1911 you can easilly make this change. BD |
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If the levers are properly timed and are consistently deactivating the firing pin plunger, I would have no problems with carrying a S80. I like the idea of having a firing pin safety, and the trigger pull argument doesn't hold much water with me.
The extra parts are annoying because they complicate reassembly, and they can render the gun inoperable if improperly reassembled... and it's easy to improperly reassemble them. |
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History has proven that for tbe most part, there is no need for the extraneous safety. Having said that, you are addressing a crowd too lazy or intolerant to manage or deal with a two-piece guide rod. The extra step in removing the firing pin and extractor, though managable enough is tedious open-heart surgeryby compare. The series 80 is a proven safety, but there is that unshakable conventional wisdom with many that one more moving part = one more thing that can fail. Finally, a factory S80 has a very subtle "creep" in the trigger that's more like a mini two stage trigger pull. I hear a good smith job can practically eliminate this, but the difference clearly exists in my hands.
I have no problem supporting S80-born models of interest like the Delta or a new agent, and have not yet been annoyed enough to alter the factory trigger, but I will support and pay more for a pre80 design out of preference given a choice. |