Posted: 10/31/2008 9:35:21 PM EDT
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what are your opinions about this weapon. Ive never owned a 1911 before and dont really have the funds to drop 1k on a 1911 right now. How is the quality of the mil spec compared to higer end models (i know it dosent have some of the features the higher end models do). Is it worth buying or would it be wise to hold off untill i have the funds for a higher end model. Or should i buy the mil-spec now and modify it as funds permit?
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Its a good starting point for those that like to customize as they see fit.
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thanks for the replies but can someone tell me about the quality compared to higher end models? -thanks Since you seem obsessed with the higher end models, I say save up and then just get one. If you end up throwing out this 600 and that 600 and some other 600 on the cheapo s, then you could have eventually had the high-ender. |
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thanks for the replies but can someone tell me about the quality compared to higher end models? -thanks The milspec is a good basic mass produced 1911. The loaded model is a milspec with a bunch of drop-in parts. The TRP is a milspec with a properly fitted beavertail grip safety, properly fitted sights, properly fitted thumb safety, but crappy checkering, loose barrel, and a cheezy finish. It is good enough for most people as far as semi-custom 1911s go. The Pro is a gun onto itself. The slide and frame start out as oversized parts for custom fitting. The same goes for most other parts. The hammer/sear/disconnector are machined from barstock for longevity. You end up with near perfection. The gun is designed to last at least 60,000 full power rounds. Jesus carries a Springfield Pro. |
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thanks for the replies but can someone tell me about the quality compared to higher end models? Not trying to be a smartass, but do you honestly think the quality is going to be the same? Or even close? One won't get the quality buying a pair of shoes from Payless that they would get paying $200 from a name brand shoe store, yes? Ditto for guns, certainly for 1911s. Now, if you're worried about buying a POS mil-spec from Springfield for $500-600, then rest your mind. The quality if going to be there, but certainly the fitting, finish, polish & whatnot won't be there that is present in the $1K 1911s. I'm not sure if this answers your question correctly, but you're kinda asking an abstract question, IMO. 
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| Long story short. I love the 1911. I have small hands and have always like the feel of the 1911. I have owned four 1911's. The first 2 were a springfield loaded model and a springfield match model and neither worked worth a shit. I sold both off and still had an itch for a 1911 so I bought a mil-spec for $500.00 at a gunshow. After 2K rounds I have yet to have any type of failure and I would absolutely trust my life to this gun. It looks like crap and has none of the "cool guy" feautures on it but it is a workhorse. Buy it you wont be disapointed. |
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thanks for the replies but can someone tell me about the quality compared to higher end models? Not trying to be a smartass, but do you honestly think the quality is going to be the same? Or even close? One won't get the quality buying a pair of shoes from Payless that they would get paying $200 from a name brand shoe store, yes? Ditto for guns, certainly for 1911s. Now, if you're worried about buying a POS mil-spec from Springfield for $500-600, then rest your mind. The quality if going to be there, but certainly the fitting, finish, polish & whatnot won't be there that is present in the $1K 1911s. I'm not sure if this answers your question correctly, but you're kinda asking an abstract question, IMO.
well obviously (looks like it did not apear that way) i didnt think it was the SAME quality as the higher end models. Basically i was asking to see what people said about it being a junker or not. and it appears the loaded model is basically a mil-spec but with a few accesories but all in all it is still the same base as the mil-spec? |
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well obviously (looks like it did not apear that way) i didnt think it was the SAME quality as the higher end models. Basically i was asking to see what people said about it being a junker or not. Oh, hell no! Many people (myself included) have bought mil-specs & used them as a base gun for building projects. Some people (myself included, again) prefer to NOT have to pay for things they neither want nor need, such as an ambi safety, for example. About the only real negative I can list about the mil-spec models are the following: sights & two-piece barrel. Both are easily remedied & I have changed both on mine as well as changed the OEM trigger to a "long" trigger to better fit my hands. By buying a mil-spec & adding a NM barrel I was able to get a gun that shoots as well as a Gold Cup for a WHOLE lot less $$$$. Hope this helps! |
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well obviously (looks like it did not apear that way) i didnt think it was the SAME quality as the higher end models. Basically i was asking to see what people said about it being a junker or not. Oh, hell no! Many people (myself included) have bought mil-specs & used them as a base gun for building projects. Some people (myself included, again) prefer to NOT have to pay for things they neither want nor need, such as an ambi safety, for example. About the only real negative I can list about the mil-spec models are the following: sights & two-piece barrel. Both are easily remedied & I have changed both on mine as well as changed the OEM trigger to a "long" trigger to better fit my hands. By buying a mil-spec & adding a NM barrel I was able to get a gun that shoots as well as a Gold Cup for a WHOLE lot less $$$$. Hope this helps! I don't understand what a two piece barrel is. I'm on the hunt for a 1911 full size carry gun as well so I'm trying to learn as much as I can about the platform. I currently own an ultra frame kimber and previously had a LB Concept VII that I think I regret selling now. |
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Originally Posted By CTbuilder1
I don't understand what a two piece barrel is. A two-piece bbl is when a mfgr takes the chamber portion & welds it to the rifled bore portion to create the entire bbl assembly. While workable, there is a good jump in accuracy between the one-piece & the two-piece. Further example, Brownells sells the SA two-piece bbl for around $60 ea. A good quality one-piece will sell for around $120+. |
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Originally Posted By CTbuilder1
I don't understand what a two piece barrel is. A two-piece bbl is when a mfgr takes the chamber portion & welds it to the rifled bore portion to create the entire bbl assembly. While workable, there is a good jump in accuracy between the one-piece & the two-piece. Further example, Brownells sells the SA two-piece bbl for around $60 ea. A good quality one-piece will sell for around $120+. Ah, I see. Thanks! |