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Posted: 2/6/2024 4:55:16 PM EST
And implore him to veto the tyrannical anti-2A legislation that is being passed, including a new AWB that passed the house Friday evening.
[email protected] So far 47 anti-gun bills have been introduced for consideration this session. It will be up to Youngkin to veto these bills, and he is not the most passionate defender of the 2A. “I’ve never seen anything like this in all the years I have been lobbying for VCDL,” writes Philip Van Cleave, the Virginia Citizen’s Defense League President in the organization’s most recent VA-ALERT sent to members and email subscribers. View Quote Take 10 minutes to write. It doesn't need to be literature. We just need people to let him know how passionately opposed we are, and what this legislation represents - the most severe assault on individual rights Virginiana have seen ...and that by signing, he would be responsible for snuffing out the flame of freedom in VA. |
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Done.
Needs to be cross posted in GD. Needs some of that big 2020 Lobby Day energy. |
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Hold on wasn’t that video made 4 years ago? Also the AWB seems to have failed or maybe I’m reading it all wrong? I think it’s getting passed for a vote on the senate. Not sure what’s going on. Looks like the house passed it and it’s on the way to the senate but the one from the senate is still not voted on. No idea what is going on.
Can someone from vcdl clarify? https://vcdl-lis.org/#:~:text=VCDL's%202024%20Legislation%20Tracking%20Tool&text=Carrying%20a%20concealed%20handgun%3B%20permit,handgun%20openly%20within%20the%20Commonwealth. Must be a bot that made that post to cause confusion and chaos. Let’s focus on what is really going on. Still a good idea to email him but make sure the bills are current. |
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Quoted: Hold on wasn’t that video made 4 years ago? Also the AWB seems to have failed or maybe I’m reading it all wrong? I think it’s getting passed for a vote on the senate. Not sure what’s going on. Looks like the house passed it and it’s on the way to the senate but the one from the senate is still not voted on. No idea what is going on. Can someone from vcdl clarify? https://vcdl-lis.org/#:~:text=VCDL's%202024%20Legislation%20Tracking%20Tool&text=Carrying%20a%20concealed%20handgun%3B%20permit,handgun%20openly%20within%20the%20Commonwealth. Must be a bot that made that post to cause confusion and chaos. Let’s focus on what is really going on. Still a good idea to email him but make sure the bills are current. View Quote Weird. The Colion video was reposted elsewhere along with the current article I linked above, but I should have looked closer. Still the same problem though. Dems now control VA House and Senate, and these bills are starting to pass. HB2 passed the House on Friday. The Senate appears to be advancing a similar bill (SB2). Numerous other anti-2A bills have been passed while others are still being considered. Youngkin needs to veto. I've updated the OP. |
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Quoted: Weird. The Colion video was reposted elsewhere along with the current article I linked above, but I should have looked closer. Still the same problem though. Dems now control VA House and Senate, and these bills are starting to pass. HB2 passed the House on Friday. The Senate appears to be advancing a similar bill (SB2). Numerous other anti-2A bills have been passed while others are still being considered. Youngkin needs to veto. I've updated the OP. View Quote Yeah the same thing happened at the time of that Colin video. The AWB we have today is the same exact one they tried to pass last time word to word. And last time the senate was the main choke point. I’m not sure about this time but we need to be emailing I agree. |
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Sent an email. It wasn't elegant and didn't contain a 5 or 6 figure check so I doubt my opinion matters much.
But hey, can't bitch if you don't even try. |
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Sent the below:
Governor Youngkin: My wife and I implore you to veto any and all legislation that comes to your desk which strips the right to keep and bear arms from the citizens of Virginia! Thank you |
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Crossover day is February 13th so the Senate hasn't seen passed House bills and the Senate hasn't seen House passed bills.
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https://www.governor.virginia.gov/communicating-with-the-governors-office/
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Quoted: https://www.governor.virginia.gov/communicating-with-the-governors-office/ View Quote The issue with that form is it appears intended to bypass his office and send the issue directly to one of his departments, based on the canned subjects. Would be nice if there was one for legislative affairs that went to his office, but nada. |
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Quoted: Sent an email. It wasn't elegant and didn't contain a 5 or 6 figure check so I doubt my opinion matters much. But hey, can't bitch if you don't even try. View Quote I’m with you… “Honorable Governor Youngkin, My wife and I (both supporters of you and your administration), deeply beg of you to protect our Second Amendment rights here in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Progressives and the like are slowly trying to turn our GREAT state into a socialist Utopia with no regard to our Constitutional Rights. Please support our Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms as the founders of our nation intended. Quite a few founders of our country hail from Virginia, and were leading advocates of our Nations Constitution. Very Respectfully,” We see how it goes… sad had to say “beg”. |
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It was short and sweet but he knows were I stand on these bills.
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Quoted: The issue with that form is it appears intended to bypass his office and send the issue directly to one of his departments, based on the canned subjects. Would be nice if there was one for legislative affairs that went to his office, but nada. View Quote So what address is everyone emailing directly to the Gov? I can only find the above and it has predetermined topics headings. |
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Quoted: So what address is everyone emailing directly to the Gov? I can only find the above and it has predetermined topics headings. View Quote [email protected] |
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Quoted: Quoted: So what address is everyone emailing directly to the Gov? I can only find the above and it has predetermined topics headings. [email protected] That's where I sent my email and received back an automated "Thank you for contacting the Office of the Governor of Virginia. Please know that your correspondence has been received and submitted." I'm planning to send him an email everyday, from now until the session is closed Today's email: Dear Governor: I implore you to veto any bills which reach your desk that strip the citizens of the Commonwealth of their right to keep and bear arms! Thank you |
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Done.
Hate to say it, but ChatGPT makes a great quick letter. Have it quote Bruen vs New York |
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Any indication anyone is reading these other than to make a check in a column? If so, that’s a great idea. My email was short and sweet; now I regret that.
How can we push this campaign? I think it’s better to prepare the governor now, than to try and do so last minute after something gets sent to his desk. |
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View Quote Email works, got a canned acceptance response. Youngkin is thinking of running for Senator when his time is up, I would emphasize that you would be leaving the Commonwealth if this crap is passed. |
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Quoted: Email works, got a canned acceptance response. Youngkin is thinking of running for Senator when his time is up, I would emphasize that you would be leaving the Commonwealth if this crap is passed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Email works, got a canned acceptance response. Youngkin is thinking of running for Senator when his time is up, I would emphasize that you would be leaving the Commonwealth if this crap is passed. I told him in my email that if he votes for gun control, I will not vote for him in his senate run. |
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I sent an email.
At this point it looks like the AWB bill is going to pass. It already passed the Senate version of the bill so I don't see why they wouldn't approve of the House version. Also there's a really nasty bill where you have to have training 5 years prior to purchasing a firearm. That means you have a 5 years waiting period before you can purchase anything from what I'm reading. That sounds pretty whacky to me. Overall though at this point we're at the mercy of the governor and all we can do is write emails and hope he does the right thing. I'm thinking expect some of the anti-2a bills to pass through though. I'm not 100% convinced he won't sign an AWB because of the grandfathering clause that GOP seem to love. I want to also reiterate that only 39% of our voters came out that caused this. Less than half of Virginians decided for the rest of us. Let that sink in and if this isn't a wake up call this November and every election going forward, I don't know what is. |
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Quoted: I sent an email. At this point it looks like the AWB bill is going to pass. It already passed the Senate version of the bill so I don't see why they wouldn't approve of the House version. Also there's a really nasty bill where you have to have training 5 years prior to purchasing a firearm. That means you have a 5 years waiting period before you can purchase anything from what I'm reading. That sounds pretty whacky to me. Overall though at this point we're at the mercy of the governor and all we can do is write emails and hope he does the right thing. I'm thinking expect some of the anti-2a bills to pass through though. I'm not 100% convinced he won't sign an AWB because of the grandfathering clause that GOP seem to love. I want to also reiterate that only 39% of our voters came out that caused this. Less than half of Virginians decided for the rest of us. Let that sink in and if this isn't a wake up call this November and every election going forward, I don't know what is. View Quote Also any pro gun voters that don't show up in '25 deserve the same treatment as the commies. There is no doubt, they aren't hiding anything now, they want us disarmed, they want to take all the guns. However, abortion will rule the election and the GOP will lose. |
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Quoted: I seriously doubt Youngkin will sign the AWB. I do think he would sign some bullshit (all of it is bullshit) like the no carry in restaurants that serve alcohol and maybe the no ffl's within 1.5 miles of a school, you know to try and appease the Karen's who gave him is Gubernatorial win. Also any pro gun voters that don't show up in '25 deserve the same treatment as the commies. There is no doubt, they aren't hiding anything now, they want us disarmed, they want to take all the guns. However, abortion will rule the election and the GOP will lose. View Quote Keep in mind only 39% of voters came out this election. Abortion may have been a driving factor but it only shifted the turn out a little to rock into their favor. We really need a good turn out next election cycle. In some ways, the bill passing may be a benefit to gun owners because it'll motivate people come out and vote next time. |
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Quoted: Any indication anyone is reading these other than to make a check in a column? If so, that’s a great idea. My email was short and sweet; now I regret that. How can we push this campaign? I think it’s better to prepare the governor now, than to try and do so last minute after something gets sent to his desk. View Quote I always assume your correspondence is nothing more than a tick mark on a spreadsheet with "for" and "against" in the top row. Having said that, here's my daily "against" email: Governor I implore you stand-up for freedom and VETO ANY bill that comes to you this session which strips the peaceful citizens of Virginia of their rights to defend themselves. Thank you |
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This thread needs to be moved and color highlighted to GD. with ATTN: VA GUN OWNERS added to the title.
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Sent
"Please do not sign any of these divisive, radical, and unlawful bills! We need your VETO. Being principled in your duty for the people you serve will grow support amongst your base.. However a betrayal by compromising on any further firearm or self protection restrictions will never be forgotten." |
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Daily email
Governor Youngkin: Should you seek my vote in the future, you will need to do the right thing and veto ALL anti-2A bills which reach your desk this session. They are against the text and tradition of our country and commonwealth! Thank you |
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How about emails to the Lt. Gov? Maybe Sears can help put a boot in his ass?
I will admit my ignorance as I don't know how much sway a Lt Gov has on a Gov though. |
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Quoted: How about emails to the Lt. Gov? Maybe Sears can help put a boot in his ass? I will admit my ignorance as I don't know how much sway a Lt Gov has on a Gov though. View Quote Interesting idea. I assume she was just used to get elected and has since been marginalized, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. Her email address: [email protected] |
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Quoted: How about emails to the Lt. Gov? Maybe Sears can help put a boot in his ass? I will admit my ignorance as I don't know how much sway a Lt Gov has on a Gov though. View Quote How about some clarification on what is still active? It's hard to understand the updates though. All I understand is something passing the House and Senate then the governor signs it. But what about when it's handed off to a committee? Does that mean it's going to get amended or is it shelved? I guess I'd like to know what I can focus on when I send an email instead of a blanket statement, you know? |
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Quoted: How about some clarification on what is still active? It's hard to understand the updates though. All I understand is something passing the House and Senate then the governor signs it. But what about when it's handed off to a committee? Does that mean it's going to get amended or is it shelved? I guess I'd like to know what I can focus on when I send an email instead of a blanket statement, you know? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How about emails to the Lt. Gov? Maybe Sears can help put a boot in his ass? I will admit my ignorance as I don't know how much sway a Lt Gov has on a Gov though. How about some clarification on what is still active? It's hard to understand the updates though. All I understand is something passing the House and Senate then the governor signs it. But what about when it's handed off to a committee? Does that mean it's going to get amended or is it shelved? I guess I'd like to know what I can focus on when I send an email instead of a blanket statement, you know? Oppose any and all gun control. It's that simple. None of it is acceptable. Youngkin needs to know he will lose gun owners as he tries to win Karen's for his senate run. The Democrats will pass every single piece of anti gun legislation that is brought forth. |
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VCDL Legislative Update 2/14/24 We have now passed crossover day, the halfway mark, where gun bills that passed one body are now being heard in the other body. So, House bills are being heard in the Senate and Senate bills are being heard in the House. (ACTION ITEM on Delegate Coyner at end of this alert.) Here’s where the bills stand: All major gun-rights bills have been killed in committees in both houses. VCDL has changed its position on these two bills, from OPPOSE to NEUTRAL, after both were modified to protect gun-owners from being wrongly charged: HB 36, Delegate Willett, and SB 44, Senator VanVaulkenburg, makes it a crime for a parent to allow their child to gain possession of a firearm after having been notified that their child is a danger to himself or others due to things such as being convicted of a violent crime. Gun-control bills that passed on a bipartisan vote, with all Democrats supporting and some Republicans supporting: NOTE, except for SB 225, which is a senate bill, Delegate Coyner voted in support of all 8 of the House gun-control bills on this list. See section 6 on Delegate Coyner at the end. HB 46, Delegate Bennett-Parker, requires a person holding guns for a prohibited person to be at least 21 and live at a different address. Delegate Coyner voted for this bill. HB 173, Delegate Simon, requires homemade guns made after 1968 to be serialized. Delegate Coyner voted for this bill HB 362, Delegate McClure, adds a “dating relationship” to misdemeanor domestic violence category. Delegates Coyner and Lovejoy voted for this bill. HB 454, Delegate Callsen, bans guns at higher education buildings. Delegate Coyner voted for this bill. HB 637, Delegate Sullivan, creates a Substantial Risk Order (Red Flag) training program for law enforcement. Delegate Coyner voted for this bill. HB 798, Delegate Hope, takes away gun rights for simple assault, assault and battery, and stalking. Delegate Coyner voted for this bill. HB 861, Delegate Hernandez, bans guns in hospitals. Delegate Coyner voted for this bill. HB 1174, Delegate Sickles, makes it illegal for anyone under 21 to purchase an “assault firearm.” Delegate Coyner voted for this bill. Gun-control bills that passed on a party-line vote, with all Democrats supporting and all Republicans opposing: HB 2, Delegate Helmer, bans “assault weapon” and magazines that hold more than 10 rounds which were made after July 1, 2024. SB 2, Senator Deeds, bans “assault weapon” and magazines that hold more than 10 rounds which were made after July 1, 2024. SB 47, Senator Favola, requires a person holding guns for a prohibited person be 21 or older and live at a different address. SB 57, Senator Salim, makes it illegal for a CHP holder to carry concealed in a restaurant or club that serves alcoholic beverages. SB 99, Senator Ebbin, prohibits open carry of “assault weapons” in public areas. SB 100, Senator Ebbin, requires serialization of homemade guns made after 1968. HB 158, Delegate McClure, requires locking devices for firearms and a warning sheet be included when a gun is sold. HB 175, Delegate Simon, prohibits open carry of “assault weapons” in public areas. HB 183, Delegate Simon, requires all firearms in a home, that are not being carried, to be locked up if someone in the home is under 18-years-old. SB 258, Senator Surovell, expands what a judge can consider when issuing a red flag order. SB 273, Senator Subramanyam, creates a five-day waiting period for gun sales. HB 318, Delegate Helmer, allows the firearms industry to be subject to frivolous civil lawsuits. SB 327, Senator Salim, makes it illegal for someone under 21 to purchase a handgun or “assault firearm.” SB 368, Senator Boysco, requires all firearms in a home, that are not being carried, to be locked up if someone in the home is under 18-years-old. SB 373, Senator Deeds, bans guns in higher-education buildings. SB 447, Senator Marsden, creates a civil fine with car towing, for a handgun left visible in an unattended vehicle. SB 491, Senator Carroll Foy, allows the firearms industry to be subject to frivolous civil lawsuits. SB 515, Senator Williams Graves, bans guns in hospitals. SB 522, Senator Williams Graves, requires training to be able to purchase a firearm. HB 585, Delegate Mundon King, prevents home-based FFLs from operating within 1.5 miles of a school. SB 642, Senator Perry, adds “dating relationship” to misdemeanor domestic violence definition to prohibit a person from owning firearms. HB 797, Delegate Hope, removes NRA and USCCA courses as training for getting a CHP. It also requires 10 rounds of live fire. HB 799, Delegate Hope, requires fingerprinting to get a CHP. HB 939, Delegate Shin, prohibits firearms within 100 feet of electoral board, voter registration, voter satellite buildings, or absentee drop-off locations. Gun-control bills that are either defeated or have been continued until next year: HB 113, Delegate Sullivan, takes away gun rights for misdemeanor drunk driving, defeated. HB 270, Delegate Reid, omnibus bills that includes semi-auto and magazine bans, waiting periods, and more, continued to 2025. HB 319, Delegate Helmer, removes NRA and USCCA courses as those that are accepted training for getting a CHP, continued to 2025. HB 602, Delegate Price, creates a government agency, the Virginia Center for Firearm Violence and Prevention, continued to 2025. HB 791, Delegate Henson, makes it a felony to have a BB gun on school property, defeated. Republican Delegate Coyner is voting for gun control and that is bad for all of us! Delegate Coyner seems to be confused as to whether she is a Republican or a Democrat, or she doesn’t understand either her Party’s platform or the 2A’s “shall not be infringed.” The vast majority of the Republicans in the General Assembly don’t have that problem and are standing strong so far. Here is what Delegate Coyner supports in a nutshell: No guns in hospitals, even for CHP holders No guns in higher-education buildings, even for CHP holders No “assault firearms” for young adults Gun rights taken away for misdemeanor simple assault, assault and battery, or stalking Add the nebulous term “dating relationships” to the misdemeanor domestic violence law, opening up a Pandora’s Box that can be abused by a disgruntled ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend Training police so they can violate our rights more efficiently using the Red Flag law A spouse or family member living in the home with someone who has been issued a protective order, have to give up their guns, too, even though they have nothing to do with the protective order Homemade guns have to be registered on a Form 4473, as if they are commercially made firearms ACTION ITEM! Bipartisan votes, even if it is just one Republican that breaks ranks, are harmful when it comes to gun-control bills landing on the Governor’s desk next week. If you live in Delegate Coyner’s district, I suggest you give her a polite, but firm, call about all those bad votes: 804-698-1075. |
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Really need a push because it's going to be much harder for him after Kansas City, with leftist press spinning their narrative.
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A number of them are heading to his desk today. I strongly urge everyone here to call.
804-786-2211 You'll be prompted to either hit 1 to leave a message or 2 to speak with a member of the governor's staff. Hit 2. Make sure they know your position this morning. No need to make it long or even impassioned. Greet the woman who answers politely and simply convey that you strongly urge the governor to veto all gun control measures hitting his desk today given they will have no impact on crime and are a clear assault on legal gun owners and conservatives who have supported him and hope to support him in the future. The woman answering is probably getting buried in calls, so remember to be polite. Thanks. |
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Quoted: A number of them are heading to his desk today. I strongly urge everyone here to call. 804-786-2211 You'll be prompted to either hit 1 to leave a message or 2 to speak with a member of the governor's staff. Hit 2. Make sure they know your position this morning. No need to make it long or even impassioned. Greet the woman who answers politely and simply convey that you strongly urge the governor to veto all gun control measures hitting his desk today given they will have no impact on crime and are a clear assault on legal gun owners and conservatives who have supported him and hope to support him in the future. The woman answering is probably getting buried in calls, so remember to be polite. Thanks. View Quote Just did! |
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I posted in GD, and am posting here as well.
Done, and done politely. She sounds tired. @scuba_steve What do you think our chances of total vetoes are? |
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Quoted: How soon will we learn of the first vetoes? @scuba_steve View Quote Expect some of the bills to pass though. I'm not sure which ones. The AWB is a toss up that he'll sign it or not. Since there's a grandfathering clause and the fact he's running as a moderate, he might sign it. He also might sign the waiting period for gun purchases as it has some support from the businesses that rent firearms. It's important that you call the governor and let your voice be heard. Only 39% of voters voted in the last election. That means a huge chunk of people are unheard of or don't care. You really need to go in there and speak and say something. From what I understand right now the bills switched between the house and senate. So each will vote on the bills passed from each chambers. Then it will go to the governor to sign. Expect to know by end of March if he vetos any bills. He may get it on his desk before hand but regardless every bill he signs won't go into law until July 1st. |
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Quoted: Expect some of the bills to pass though. I'm not sure which ones. The AWB is a toss up that he'll sign it or not. Since there's a grandfathering clause and the fact he's running as a moderate, he might sign it. He also might sign the waiting period for gun purchases as it has some support from the businesses that rent firearms. It's important that you call the governor and let your voice be heard. Only 39% of voters voted in the last election. That means a huge chunk of people are unheard of or don't care. You really need to go in there and speak and say something. From what I understand right now the bills switched between the house and senate. So each will vote on the bills passed from each chambers. Then it will go to the governor to sign. Expect to know by end of March if he vetos any bills. He may get it on his desk before hand but regardless every bill he signs won't go into law until July 1st. View Quote Pitiful. |
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