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11/5/2008 4:09:23 PM EDT
One of my YOUNG BROKE coworkers wants an affordable dependable 1911 to purchase in around ATL. Not cheap, but nothing fancy either.

Anybody got any ideas.


I was thinking Springfield or Colt, but do not know where to send him.  

Thanks for your help!

ETA: Corrected for $$ reality.
11/5/2008 4:11:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Ed Brown.  Ithink there is al,ocal dealer of his sf no roll mark model.
11/5/2008 4:20:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Id say Springfield...ive seen alot latley going for around $500ish
11/5/2008 4:26:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Id say Springfield...ive seen alot latley going for around $500ish


That one
11/5/2008 4:32:29 PM EDT
[#4]
I vote for a Springfield for around $500.00 too and save the money for ammo and range time. He can customize it as he goes.

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11/5/2008 4:35:58 PM EDT
[#5]
The STI Spartan is one of the best deals going for under $500.
Frame and slide are mfg in the Phillipines and it is also assembled there using STI parts. STI parts are actually high quality parts. There barrels are also extremely well made and accurate.
11/5/2008 4:55:48 PM EDT
[#6]
I have 5 all by different makers.  Oddly enough my carry 1911 is a Taurus. I have over 3k rounds thru it and not one malfunction I could blame on the weapon.  It eats everything I put in it.  I did replace the safety (anti-ambi) to a normal one and give it a trigger job as I did the rest, but it hits the target just as well as my $2kEd Brown.  I paid lil' over 500$ for it and I'm really happy with it.  Just last weekend I went 98/100 on rapid fire steel @20yds just as fast as I could go.




Best score I've had in a year.




It may be a low buck gun, but it runs with the top dogs on accuracy in this house IMHO.  Who'da thunk?  



 Two years ago, not me.  Proof was in the puddin, it works and works well.
00bullitt!
Where are you seeing an STI for $500ish?  That would be a great find for me.

 
 
11/5/2008 5:01:05 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
The STI Spartan is one of the best deals going for under $500.
Frame and slide are mfg in the Phillipines and it is also assembled there using STI parts. STI parts are actually high quality parts. There barrels are also extremely well made and accurate.



This is the best suggestion you can get. the Spartan is a fantastic gun.
11/5/2008 5:12:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I have 5 all by different makers.  Oddly enough my carry 1911 is a Taurus. I have over 3k rounds thru it and not one malfunction I could blame on the weapon.  It eats everything I put in it.  I did replace the safety (anti-ambi) to a normal one and give it a trigger job as I did the rest, but it hits the target just as well as my $2kEd Brown.  I paid lil' over 500$ for it and I'm really happy with it.  Just last weekend I went 98/100 on rapid fire steel @20yds just as fast as I could go.
Best score I've had in a year.

It may be a low buck gun, but it runs with the top dogs on accuracy in this house IMHO.  Who'da thunk?    Two years ago, not me.  Proof was in the puddin, it works and works well.

00bullitt!


Where are you seeing an STI for $500ish?  That would be a great find for me.http://www.emoticons.free.fr/smileys/Emotion-Desired/drool3.gif

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Semper Fi Arms has them new for 630ish
11/5/2008 5:17:06 PM EDT
[#9]
I bought one when they first came out for $489. They could have gone up a small bit but none the less. $630 is still a good deal considering the quality of the Spartan.
11/5/2008 6:42:28 PM EDT
[#10]
I bought a new in box RIA GI model a while back for less than $350. It has done well and had no problems. For no more than i have it i don't think i did bad. Look around there are deals to be had.
11/5/2008 7:00:35 PM EDT
[#11]
yep go with sringfield, sti, or tarus. they will be easy to customize later.

11/5/2008 7:49:05 PM EDT
[#12]
I'd probably recommend the Rock Island Armory for the truly broke, although I do have to question their brokeness if you're thinking about a colt for them. RIA's can be had for less than $400 and if you find a really good deal occasionally a used one can be picked up for around $300.

For a step up I can reccomend the Taurus 1911. It's already got a lot of add-ons and till the end of the year they are offering a $75 Mail in Rebate on their 1911's. That is an unheard of rebate. http://www.taurususa.com/2008rebate/index.htm
11/5/2008 8:00:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Is he going to be too broke to buy ammo once he finds a gun?
11/5/2008 8:21:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Yes, he will be able to buy ammo, I just saw the Ed Brown rec in the first post and had to edit so that we would not get a bunch of 2K plus guns.

I did not know Colts were expensive 1911's as well, didn't really think about it.

Thanks for the help.
11/6/2008 4:17:37 AM EDT
[#15]
Springfield Mil spec model is less then 500 i think.
11/6/2008 4:44:25 AM EDT
[#16]
Maybe it will help with your decision, but Armscor makes the slides and frames for the STI Spartan, they also make the parts for Charles Daley and Rock island Armory.  Knowing that to be fact, I'd get the cheaper of the guns.
11/6/2008 4:52:09 AM EDT
[#17]
When I did this (buying an inexpensive 1911) I went with a Springfield Milspec with the intention of changing some parts later.  Yeah, I spent more money in the long run and had some headaches going that route.  Allen_PSI finally fixed some of the modifications I had done by a local gunsmith.  Man that guy was a total hack job.  Allen spent a lot of time fixing the crap this guy did to my pistol.

In the end I got a nice pistol out of the deal but I would have saved time and money and headache buying a Springfield Loaded instead.

I still think a Milspec isn't a bad way to go.

Are all the STI guns bar stock?
11/6/2008 6:54:13 AM EDT
[#18]
All the slides and frames made by Armscor like the STI are 4140 investment castings.  Kimber, Springfield, and Caspian are made from bar stock if I am correct.  Don't know about Taurus
11/6/2008 1:57:33 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
All the slides and frames made by Armscor like the STI are 4140 investment castings.  Kimber, Springfield, and Caspian are made from bar stock if I am correct.  Don't know about Taurus


Armscor Slides are Extruded Bar stock,  frames are investment cast.  The ones STI uses are fitted by STI.
11/6/2008 6:59:38 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
All the slides and frames made by Armscor like the STI are 4140 investment castings.  Kimber, Springfield, and Caspian are made from bar stock if I am correct.  Don't know about Taurus


STI slides are bar stock. Caspian are forged castings as are Sigs 1911's if I'm not mistaken since I know Caspian used to make them.