Posted: 12/9/2008 11:21:51 AM EDT
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I dont want to hijack RedRyder's thread , anyone here into CETME's, anymore than it has been. But after your post thereI feel myside needs to be said. I never aired our dirty laundry publicly, but apparently you and Kane felt it necessary although I dont know what buisness of his it was. First off in the CETME thread I only mentioned ground on bolts with no implication to you, your company or your product. My only question there was to Brother Kane and his statement and it still stands, he would hold a seller more responsible than the manufacture of a item with poor parts? Kanes statement "He demanded that the manufacturer replace the bolt on instead of contacting the seller for a refund". Since the manufacture admittedly did the grinding on the bolt, is that demand so wrong? And why would the seller be at fualt.?
Now as to your statements, yes you offered to come get the rifle. At that time, last July, people here, on the AK side, had threads complaining that your builds were taking well over a YEAR. Not to mention you had Gavins pistol for almost 6month trying to put on sites. So yes I was very leary to hand over my rifle to you for fear it might be a long time before it came back. I did offer to take it to your shop, but being that it is over on hour from me I asked, not knowing then what it would take to fix it, if I came to you what if anything could you do for it , just like you stated in your post except I dont see how that was a "demanding" statement. Well you took offense to it then and became aggitated, offensive and very unproffessional at which point I did apologize for any miscommunication and then stopped communication with you due to your unproffessional attitude. So now I contacted your partner Duke Nukem and Mike suggested we meet at an already scheduled dinner so he could see the problem. Mike agreed that the bolt shouldnt have been ground on and that MCA should replace the bolt. I also made it clear that I wanted MCA to just supply the bolt and the people whom not only inspected the rifle for me but helped teach YOU to to use the tools to build the AK's were going to help me fix it correctly. In front of four ARFCOM members Mike agreed and took down my address to mail me the bolt. One month later and no bolt so I called Mike who is so busy he didnt even remember me. Then after yet another month and another call to Mike and still no bolt I said forget it I see how this company does buisness, one guy has an anger issue and the other wont hold true to his word. Now I never mentioned any of this in the CETME thread or spilled it here publicly, it was Brother Kane who brought up this issue again and you who made it sound like I did nothing to get it resolved. Mr. Nukem gave his word in front of 4 witnesses from ARFCOM that he would send the bolt, but I guess that doesnt mean much. Maybe I shouldn't have gone ahead with the FTF without a good inspection but at the time I knew nothing of AKs and the seller has written statments from Duke that this was one of the finest AK's MCA had ever produced. If that is true it is a very sad thing. I guess in the end it is me who is the bad guy here for wanting a square deal and a company who stands behind not only their product but their word. The rifle is long since gone, I washed my hands of it at a loss. I did however give the buyer MCA's contact info in case it ever blows up. |
| You brought me into this by hijacking the CETME post. Everything I know about your rifle I have read about online and most of the posts were from you. You bought a second hand rifle that was assembled with old worn out machine gun parts from Romania. Either send the rifle back to the builder, fly your @ss to Romania to demand the Romanians sent new parts over here, or shut the f*ck up. I have read twice here where the builders have asked you to return the rifle. You would rather act like a little b!tch and post dribble. How old are you; Twelve? Grow a pair and do the right thing and posting here before having the builders inspect your rifle is not it. Oh wait...you would rather sell it to some other sap. Do you need some cheese with that whine little boy? |
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Quoted: You brought me into this by hijacking the CETME post. Everything I know about your rifle I have read about online and most of the posts were from you. You bought a second hand rifle that was assembled with old worn out machine gun parts from Romania. Either send the rifle back to the builder, fly your @ss to Romania to demand the Romanians sent new parts over here, or shut the f*ck up. I have read twice here where the builders have asked you to return the rifle. You would rather act like a little b!tch and post dribble. How old are you; Twelve? Grow a pair and do the right thing and posting here before having the builders inspect your rifle is not it. Do you need some cheese with that whine little boy? Oh wait...you would rather sell it to some other sap. First that is a lie! I never posted ANYTHING about that rifle or its problems on any site! You sir are a lier. Second I didnt hijack the thread I commented on the grinding of the CETME bolt. You sir are now the one acting like a little boy! Grinding on the bolt should be criminal. The builders DID inspect the rifle, if you could read you would see that Mike did and admitted that they are responsible for it. I have kept my attitude mature and proffessional, you sir are insulting and inmature and just trying to get this post deleted with you childishnes. |
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You brought me into this by hijacking the CETME post. Everything I know about your rifle I have read about online and most of the posts were from you. You bought a second hand rifle that was assembled with old worn out machine gun parts from Romania. Either send the rifle back to the builder, fly your @ss to Romania to demand the Romanians sent new parts over here, or shut the f*ck up. I have read twice here where the builders have asked you to return the rifle. You would rather act like a little b!tch and post dribble. How old are you; Twelve? Grow a pair and do the right thing and posting here before having the builders inspect your rifle is not it. Do you need some cheese with that whine little boy? Oh wait...you would rather sell it to some other sap. First that is a lie! I never posted ANYTHING about that rifle or its problems on any site! You sir are a lier. Second I didnt hijack the thread I commented on the grinding of the CETME bolt. You sir are now the one acting like a little boy! Grinding on the bolt should be criminal. The builders DID inspect the rifle, if you could read you would see that Mike did and admitted that they are responsible for it. I have kept my attitude mature and proffessional, you sir are insulting and inmature and just trying to get this post deleted with you childishnes. You left out psychic... |
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I didnt start this for a fight. I dont even have the rifle any longer so I have nothing to gain. But since AFSOC pionted himself out and his company and made it look like I never tried to resovle the issues I felt my side should be told. As far as I was concerned it was resolved after my meeting with Duke, except he never held up to his word. As for AFSOC he never did get to look at the rifle, this is true but how many people in their company need to inspect it? I really wish you could refresh me as to when I aired this all publicly, Im guessing since you are all ol'buds thats how you know about it. I have met you in person and always thought highly of you, but now your coming off like a prick, but I guess thats becuase Im the bad guy here, Im the one at fault, Im the one not standing by my word. |
| No anger issue here. All I ever asked was for you to bring me to rifle to check it out and we would order the bolt. The supplier I was going to use never got the part in stock and subsequently dropped it from their listings. But I would have fixed the rifle had you done what I asked of you. As for your dealings with Mike, I can't answer for him. I hold no ill will toward you for anything, I would hope that you had none toward me. Since I would have to do the work, I didn't think it too much to ask to inspect the rifle in the shop. Looking at it in a parking lot is not the same. Besides I wasn't even there. Sorry for your misfortune, but it all could have been cleared up. |
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I don't remember what my "word" was to hold up. Sorry but its been a long time and my law firm has really taken off, the gunstore has taken a real back burner to lawyer stuff. What was it that I promised to do? And if you're so upset about it, why not talk to me about it? Its not like I'm hard to find, I post here nearly every day. Just IM me and remind me, "hey you said you were going to fix my bolt" or whatever the problem is. I figured you and Kerry had been in touch about it and the whole thing was resolved by now, since the last time anyone talked to me about it was so long ago I literally don't remember what was said.
Hell, if worst comes to worst I'll buy back the rifle from you or anyone else who has it, at the price they paid. If its unsafe to shoot somehow than I certainly don't want it out there. If its jamming or having reliability problems, maybe we can fix them. If it runs fine, what's the problem? |
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I have never gotten to upset over this entire thing. The original seller can attest this. He has been involved with everything going on even today. Its all water under the bridge. I felt I affended you, Kerry, in some way with our first conversations this is why I move to talking to Duke. Honenstly in the CETME thread I said I couldnt belive they ground the bolts then mentioned I had seen an AK ground on. I never ment for the other posts about our situation to be posted. Then I just wanted my side, two sides to every story, to be heard so I didnt come of like so much of an asshole, guess that didnt work. Ken, Im sorry you got pulled into this. I have always respected what you have had to say and posted. But seriously what you had to say above, to me, seems way out of line. |