Posted: 10/18/2012 8:26:14 PM EDT
| So I was trying to remember exactly what was banned during the last AWB and it's a bit foggy. I remember stuff like collapsible stocks, flash suppressors, high capacity mags and bayonet lugs (all obviously deadly items) but what else? How about AR's specifically, if the AWB was re-instated what would be legal and what not? Thinking I might have to stock up just in case. |
| If obama wins he talking like you cant even BUY one at ALL but their aint jack shit he can do about the ones you have now . Pre Ban - Post Ban AK / AR. Its all because in his home town the punk ass kid are running around shooting up the city and LE cant do shit to stop it . These are kids of the 47% and lawabiding people get the shaft eveytime . |
| Your recollection is spot on. The 1994 AWB used the idiotic logic to define an "assault weapon" by features and appearances. It did nothing to ban specific firearms that weren't already heavily regulated by other legislation (NFA 1934 and FOPA 1986 being the primary examples). The primary feature was a detachable magazine. In addition to that any two or more of the following features were sufficient to meet the definition: Folding or telescoping stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash hider or muzzle mounted grenade launcher attachment. It also capped magazine capacity at 10 rounds except those used by government, law enforcement, or grandfathered due to manufacture prior to the ban. It was a toothless piece of feel-good legislation which led manufacturers to delete flash hiders and bayonet lugs and continue to manufacture the same weapon platforms as before except for a slightly different external appearance. It was a waste of time and money and didn't lead to any significant reduction of firearms crime (since true legally owned assault weapons have never been used in a crime since their regulation by the NFA in 1934) and contrary to the anti's stand that they were the weapons of choice of urban street gangs (only on TV!) |
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Banning guns based on what they look like is really bizarre logic, the stupidity of the whole thing is appalling. My first AR I built was during the AWB, it doesn't have a bayonet lug, and it has a thing on the end of the barrel that looks like a flash hider but it isn't functional, I sure that both of those items must have saved thousands of lives!  The lack of a bayonet lug is no big deal since I don't even own a bayonet to fit, the fake flash hider is a major hassle since it isn't removable, so I can't remove the gas block, so basically I can't do anything with that barrel except leave it alone, and if I wanted to replace the hand guard with a floating hand guard I'd have to replace the barrel, that's completely ridiculous! |
| lol...I guess I need to build a full length rifle after all so I can attach my bayonet and make it a SUPER assault weapon. I can't image why Obama would even suggest reinstating the AWB considering he needs not only the democratic vote but also a majority independent vote. He needs to stop and consider that there is a large percentage of democrats and independents that are just as pro 2A as most republicans and talking about reinstating the AWB doesn't sit well with them either. It's a stupid plan to begin with...no US citizens have never been killed by a flash suppressor, collapsible stock or high capacity magazine. |
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Fast and Furious was cooked up by Holder and Obama, Obama appointed one of the chief guys that drafted the AWB to be a US Attorney, then posted him to the exact office that would oversee Fast and Furious, this is something Obama did personally just a few months before Fast and Furious was officially launched by Justice. Somehow I don't feel its just a coincidence that he appointed this guy as a US Attorney, then got him assigned to the exact office that would oversee the program just before the program was launched. This is the same US Attorney that colluded with ATF to not followup or prosecute any of the firearm purchases. Now follow up with Obama personally making a big deal in the press about US guns being smuggled into Mexico, and spouting fake statistics that the majority of guns used in Mexico were bought in the US, and this is before Fast and Furious came to public attention, also Hillary was doing the exact same thing, making a big deal about gun smuggling, so Hillary was in on it also. This was all part of a plan that was cooked up to convince people we needed another AWB and more gun control laws overall, as disclosed by Holder in a video that came out a few months ago about using propaganda to promote gun control laws. |
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Unfortunately, for us IF Obama is re-elected we will see a bill introduced to limit our 2A freedoms. I may be the glass is half-empty, but this time around many of the loop holes of the last ban will be closed––outright banned, there may be a tax applied on each firearm, the ammo may be so expensive (like it isn't now), components for reloading will be outlawed, etc that we will not be left with anything. Say it can't be done, it has been done in other democratic countries. What I found interesting the other night during the debate (#2) is that Romney mentioned a ban too if that is what Congress wanted.
Refresh my memory, did the Americans fight a Revolutionary War because of high taxes (at the time I think it was about 11 percent), a Civil War was fought because a president (Lincoln) was elected while not even being on the ticket in many Southern states, and our current medicare situation is due to a Democrat (Johnson) borrowing from it to fund the Viet-Nam War. It is like we are reliving the last days of Rome.... |
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The only thing Romney said was to enforce the Law on books now , when did he say Gun Ban ? Look what he did in MA.............worked both sides of the isle to get a weapons ban passed. To me that is anti 2A, and basing my beliefs that people's prior actions how their true colors Romney doesn't make me feel too cozy either. Lesser of the two evils I uppose but not coxy 
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Romney is not pro 2A...as is customary he's flipped flopped to earn an NRA endorsement but he's never actually been on that side. I'm not convinced Obama wants to get involved in the whole gun rights issue but, again as typical, is saying whatever gets applause at the time. I guess we'll never know until after the election but I damn sure don't trust Romney.
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I don't necessarily trust Romney, he's a back east Republican, which is a whole different animal from Republicans in the rest of the country, one thing going for him is Paul Ryan who really is a good guy, and a real good Presidential candidate for the future. When it comes time to mark that ballot, Romney is so much better than Obama the choice is easy. |
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I don't necessarily trust Romney, he's a back east Republican, which is a whole different animal from Republicans in the rest of the country, one thing going for him is Paul Ryan who really is a good guy, and a real good Presidential candidate for the future. When it comes time to mark that ballot, Romney is so much better than Obama the choice is easy. A good candidate would be Alan west... Look him up. |
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Romney is not pro 2A...as is customary he's flipped flopped to earn an NRA endorsement but he's never actually been on that side. I'm not convinced Obama wants to get involved in the whole gun rights issue but, again as typical, is saying whatever gets applause at the time. I guess we'll never know until after the election but I damn sure don't trust Romney. Romney not going to mess with the God and Gun people . |
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Romney is not pro 2A...as is customary he's flipped flopped to earn an NRA endorsement but he's never actually been on that side. I'm not convinced Obama wants to get involved in the whole gun rights issue but, again as typical, is saying whatever gets applause at the time. I guess we'll never know until after the election but I damn sure don't trust Romney. Romney not going to mess with the God and Gun people . Hope so. I agree with Wingman, Ryan is the man for the future. I hate to think what four more years under Obama will be like since he is a lame ducker if elected. What I find interesting is how the Democrats of old are now called Republicans and the new Democrat party is Pelosi and her crew that have it out for good honest working Americans.....I see no problem helping someone get back on their feet, take care of those who worked and payed into the system BUT I do have a problem supporting those who can work and choose not too or those who take unfair advantage of the system so they can be lazy. Kinda like the free cell phone tents you see set up all over the city––the welfare group takes advantage of it when it was originally et up for the elderly and those who can't work. I know, preaching to the peanut gallery. |
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I don't want Obama back, but how can we trust a guy who wanted an investigation as to why airplane windows don't open to allow for oxygen in case of an inflight fire?
I see us as being fucked either way. Romney said that? When? Your sure that was not Al Gore ? |
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I don't want Obama back, but how can we trust a guy who wanted an investigation as to why airplane windows don't open to allow for oxygen in case of an inflight fire?
I see us as being fucked either way. Romney was cracking a joke the Obama loving mainstream media used to make him look like an idiot. Romney is no gem but he is the Prince of Peace compared to Obama.... |