Posted: 4/15/2010 7:52:23 PM EDT
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After Sapper and I got back from Tulsa this weekend, I took Monday off and went to the local conservation range (Bush Wildlife).
It was my first experience with Bush ... While it was well run ... it certainly wasn't for me. I could not stand the 3 second between rounds rule, or many other of their processes designed to allow safe shooting with all manner of folks (read inexperienced or idiots). So, while at the range between live fire sessions, I decided to call up Bench Rest and see about joining. I lucked out ... you have to attend one of their safety orientation classes before you can join. Turns out, the next one (last one currently on the schedule I'm told) is the 24th of April. Thought I’d give folks the heads up in case anyone else was on the fence about joining. |
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After Sapper and I got back from Tulsa this weekend, I took Monday off and went to the local conservation range (Bush Wildlife). It was my first experience with Bush ... While it was well run ... it certainly wasn't for me. I could not stand the 3 second between rounds rule, or many other of their processes designed to allow safe shooting with all manner of folks (read inexperienced or idiots). So, while at the range between live fire sessions, I decided to call up Bench Rest and see about joining. I lucked out ... you have to attend one of their safety orientation classes before you can join. Turns out, the next one (last one currently on the schedule I'm told) is the 24th of April. Thought I’d give folks the heads up in case anyone else was on the fence about joining. Benchrest has many of the same rules. All designed to keep people on and off the range safe. Another member here was kind enough to take me out there a few weeks ago and show me around before I decided on joining. Now I just have to save the money without seeing a great deal on the EE. |
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Ah, just stick to your guns Rob and save up them green backs.
Sorry but you will not last long at BRRC if you just got to do a mag dump. A few strays have gotten off of the range. One guy has had a window shot out. We like our range and do not want it to be shut down due to unsafe acts. Hence the 2 second rule. Only place you can do a mag dump is in the one area reserved for pistol and at 7 yrds. Do you also know what kind of money you will have to have on hand to join? Its 500 bucks. They might prorate the first years 200 bucks dues. |
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Might want to consider Arnold Rifle & Pistol Club. It's actually in Pevely. Membership is $250.00 but they will credit up to $100.00 for volunteering your time. They cover just about all disciplines, and as long as you don't act stupid, you're pretty much left alone. Only caveat is shooting only alloowed bet 8:30 and dusk, and no exploding targets. They allow full automatic, so dbl tap is definitely ok.
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... Sorry but you will not last long at BRRC if you just got to do a mag dump. A few strays have gotten off of the range. One guy has had a window shot out. We like our range and do not want it to be shut down due to unsafe acts. Hence the 2 second rule. Only place you can do a mag dump is in the one area reserved for pistol and at 7 yrds. Do you also know what kind of money you will have to have on hand to join? Its 500 bucks. They might prorate the first years 200 bucks dues. Not looking to just do mag dumps ... but am looking for a place for "realistic" shooting practices. Some people can actually control their muzzles ... even in a "rapid" fire scenerio. It's a real shame that many cannot and ruin it for everyone else. Totally understand not wanting the range shut down for unsafe acts. Am looking for a place that I can do double taps ... and even practice draw and move exercises for pistol evolutions. I also read that shooting is from dusk till dawn, yet looking at the calender, there is a night shoot scheduled. I'm hopeing it's a "here's the rules" ... understand their intentions, exercise standard stafety protocol, ... apply common sense and there is some flexability. If I recall correctly, it's $50 app fee. It's a $250 initiation fee (the $50 app fee get's applied so it's $200 out of pocket), then it's $200 for first year dues. |
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This thread has great timing. I've been thinking about joining for a while now. I think I'll have to call them up and get a slot next weekend.
I also hope they can bend a bit on the 2 sec. thing. I don't need a 600yd range to bump fire and double tap but I do not use a 2sec cadence when shooting the rapid fire courses at high power matches or AS shoots. Maybe I can feel them out a bit during the indoctrination thing next weekend. From their web site it appears that they are okay with 50's and I'm hoping that the high price of admission will keep away the idiots that scare me away from the park ranges. |
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Ok, I highly suggest that if you are thinking of joining that you go to the orientation and ask all kinds of questions. Learns what the rules are and decide to either abide by them or dont join. Cause if you are called on infraction, there is the chance that your membership will be revoked. We had a few a few years back that are banned, cant even come out as a guest.
I know now when we had Rob out as a guest. There is the 300 bucks one time fee to become a vested member. Then the yearly membership fee is 200 bucks. There might still be some form of prorating of the year dues if you do not join at the first of the year. But I am not sure what that is, been a member for to long to really concern myself with that 
Now I am not what one might call a range nazi, but I do harp on the safety for one main reason. I am a RSO and I have yet to report anyone. But I have reminded a few to slow down some. All I got to say to you guys who hope we bend the rules some. Frankly, I really dont like for you to become a member of the club. You are the guys who want to push the envelope. The rules are not mine, but then they are the club rules. I really hope you have a mind set change or just decide that our rules are just to restrictive and not to your taste. Conform or go some place else. And BTW the 300 bucks is non-returnable. Eric, the moving and shooting is something that the Arnold club is known for. Again your best bet is to join them. Base, this is not the matrix the 2 sec rule is hard fact and not a "Thing". You do not bend a safety rule, get that in your head. As it was said before in the yearly membership meeting. "This is a benchrest rifle club first". All the rest is just to round it out some. So, just to put things into perspective. Pistol, shotgun and archery are secondary. Rifles that are fired from a bench to make holes that touch or one ragged hole is what this range is all about. Anything else will always take a back seat. Where as Arnold is into action shooting or prone or standing shooting. They last I know of do not have even a 300 yrd range. And as noted, it is cheaper too. Oh, and one more thing. If you do join and you do have a 50 BMG, you will be required to shoot no rounds with API, AP, APT or tracer. So, that leaves AMax. I am still waiting on word if I can use brass bullets. So, so much for that surplus ammo. BTW guys I joined about 12 yrs ago. Annual membership fee was 120 bucks. The reason that the annual membership fee is now 200 bucks is because of FUDDs shooting up the physical assets of the club's property. |
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I don't think controlled double tapping is pushing the envelope. Of course any moron that cant handle their weapon and are dropping rounds on someones subdivision should probably just be kicked off the range and being ex military I see the like at Logan etc. Although if I was to fork out that kind of money I would think the range would be class III compatible as well. Unfortunaley we are in despaerate range need around St Charles and beyond.
I joked with a friend about opening a range. Every range from Stl to Troy is jam packed with waiting frustrated shooters. |
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Base, this is not the matrix the 2 sec rule is hard fact and not a "Thing". You do not bend a safety rule, get that in your head. As it was said before in the yearly membership meeting. "This is a benchrest rifle club first". All the rest is just to round it out some. So, just to put things into perspective. Pistol, shotgun and archery are secondary. Rifles that are fired from a bench to make holes that touch or one ragged hole is what this range is all about. Anything else will always take a back seat. Where as Arnold is into action shooting or prone or standing shooting. They last I know of do not have even a 300 yrd range. And as noted, it is cheaper too. Oh, and one more thing. If you do join and you do have a 50 BMG, you will be required to shoot no rounds with API, AP, APT or tracer. So, that leaves AMax. I am still waiting on word if I can use brass bullets. So, so much for that surplus ammo. There is such a thing as ball ammo. I have some. If waiting 2 sec. is what it takes to make your holes touch....I would recommend an AS shoot or something. Otherwise, sell your guns to a real rifleman. |
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Rapid fire with handguns is permitted in the training bay and the short yard lines on the pistol ranges. Dirt clod shooters won't have targets there anyway, your shots have to go through the target frame or into a plate.
The two second rule is loosely enforced; actually hardly at all. In practice, it's more like less than one second between shots that will catch someone's attention. If you want to practice prone or sitting rapid fire with the typical cadence used by a Highpower shooter, no one will say anything unless they notice you can't hit the target. That cadence is typically about two seconds or a little longer to recover from recoil and realign the sights for the nex shot, so the rule is not a real factor anyway. Orientation is held once a month, every month, on the same weekend. There are plenty of other places to shoot if your life depends on rapid fire and busting dirt clods. The unsupervised Conservation ranges are still available, but Reifsnider might not be the best choice. |
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Quoted: +1 for ARPC +2 on ARPC... Good range, you get a key/card come and go as you please... Unless your an idiot and don't need to be shooting, you can't get into trouble... Never had any issues there... Not knocking the above mentioned club, I've never been there... B.W.L. however, I'd never go back there... |
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I have mentioned that there is a PART of the pistol range that the targets are 7 yrds away with the back stop right behind the targets. I did mention that this is the area that you can do a mag dump. And just to the right and out from under the awning that one can even do draw firing. Anywhere else you best not think. Just follow the rules. Really is simple and not up for debate. Are we clear now. Like I said, I have asked people to slow down some. Have yet to bust someone, but I will. See if I am on the range and I do not pay attention and someone is really acting up, I have been told by the Prez Scott Piper that an RSO could loose their membership to the range if we do not report back a person who is acting up. We have had some Fudds in the past cause problems. And in case you have not read, ranges are being closed all of the time. Seems a range goes in and the owner does not buy up the whole county. People buy property near the range, build a house, raise a family and then one day a Fudd sends one over the berm and into the house or worse kills someone. So, excuse me and anyone else who is a member and dont cotton to these comments "well I think". Frankly I dont care what you think. Your not a member and you have no say in the matter. Period, I am done telling you how it is. AeroE is correct, it is mostly laid back. But if you think your going out to this place and bring out your computer monitor and shoot it up, Forget it. This is not going to become like the conservation ranges. So, I am trying to warn you off before you loose your money. |
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People will join your range regardless of my opinion but I think discussing all the options at the range should be open.
7 yard pistol range may not be what some of these AR owners could be looking for. I personally would like to see a range that has urban defense shooting tactics with assault rifles through windows etc. Maybe I just got used to military ranges too much. I would think if I'm paying a premium price I would get a premium range 
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People will join your range regardless of my opinion but I think discussing all the options at the range should be open. 7 yard pistol range may not be what some of these AR owners could be looking for. I personally would like to see a range that has urban defense shooting tactics with assault rifles through windows etc. Maybe I just got used to military ranges too much. I would think if I'm paying a premium price I would get a premium range Sounds to me as if it's time for you to put up or shut up. |
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People will join your range regardless of my opinion but I think discussing all the options at the range should be open. 7 yard pistol range may not be what some of these AR owners could be looking for. I personally would like to see a range that has urban defense shooting tactics with assault rifles through windows etc. Maybe I just got used to military ranges too much. I would think if I'm paying a premium price I would get a premium range You are not trying to discuss anything about BRRC range. You are trying to tell us what you think is wrong with BRRC and that we charge way to much for the sub premium range. Mark, you just do not get it. This is a world class range and people do pay the fee to become members. It does appear that you are having troubles transitioning back into the civilian world. This range as I have said several times and I have to wonder if you also have a comprehension problem. This is a BENCH REST RIFLE CLUB first and foremost. We are not a tactical pistol range. That is Arnold's club. Please go there if you want to play G.I. Joe. So, quiet your whining about premium fees and not being a premium range. People come from all over the states to our range for the national matches of this or that game. We have showers in the club house. We have a pool table in the club house and wide screen TV and I believe we also now have Satellite too. There is not a range for hours around that has a 600 yrd targets. 20 bench range for 50 and 100 yrds. We have about 8 stations of manual skeet with real nice throwers and one sporting clay thrower. And at both of the two smaller ranges that are remote to the main club house we have mini club houses with a one holer. We like Arnold have a pass card but shooting only from sun up to sun down. As noted we do have just a couple night shoots. Trying to be good neighbor dont you know. But I regress. There is that old saying about wrestling with a pig. The pig enjoys it and all that I get out of it is dirty. Thanks for the exercise. |
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Sounds like the ideal is a membership to both.
For bolt gun and some pistol, sounds like bench rest is the place. For "military" type rifle (read ar, ak, select fire weapons) and "more advanced" pistol action, Arnold is the place. Both are about an hour from the house (25 miles to BR and 50 to Arnold). Max, I totally understand your points and passion. I just hope the hint of disdain for "action / practice" type shooters I get from some of your replies is not the message your trying to convey or indicative of the attitudes at BR. I think we can all agree that we want a safe place to shoot away from the Fuds. |
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Eric,
Now that is the funny part. I have no distain for any shooting other than unsafe. I am not taking about the once in a life time ND. I think we all have screwed up at some time in our life. Its the "hey guys watch this" Or I wonder what will happen when I do this. What got my passion up is people who think that they are going to bully their way into an established club and its practices. We just are not set up for the action shooters. It is not what BRRC is set up to do, nor what they want to do. Its like going to a bar. You do not walk into a gay bar looking to watch the game on the TV. Nor do you go to a singles hook up bar wanting to sit around a hoot and holler at the chicks in the thin T shirts like you see at hooters. Different bars for different purposes. Same with shooting clubs. Seems that someone wanted to continue hammering BRRC even after I told that individual that he would be happier at a different club. Thats when I could see that he just wanted to get me dirty and I backed away. Thanks for seeing what we few have been trying to explain. Hmmm join both. That might be a bit steeper than most could do. I am lucky that I only live about 15 miles away from the range (BRRC). Arnold is like little over an hour away. Although if I lived closer I would give it thought to join both. I can see where times I would want to go to BRRC and other times where Arnold would be the style of shooting that I would like to do. I do love shooting out to 600 yrds and wish we had a 1K yrd range too. |
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Cool.
If your out there on the 24th, let's touch base. If not, I hope to run into you in the future. I'll need to drive out to Arnold and check actual drive time. Looks like it's mostly hwy and paved roads. Br is "fairly" close and quick ... Till I get off the hwy. 
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Cool. If your out there on the 24th, let's touch base. If not, I hope to run into you in the future. I'll need to drive out to Arnold and check actual drive time. Looks like it's mostly hwy and paved roads. Br is "fairly" close and quick ... Till I get off the hwy.
I need to see what the best "back road path" is still I plan to go out to Benchrest one night this week after work. Most likely Thursday. I'll probably go out on Friday in the late afternoon, too. If you want to come along to see one of the top two or three sub-premium ranges in the US, let me know, I'll be glad to show you around. You should also bring a rifle as I need to do some shooting to prepare for a match on Saturday evening. It will probably bore hell out of you as I will be punching little .22 RF holes in mere paper. |
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I plan to go out to Benchrest one night this week after work. Most likely Thursday. I'll probably go out on Friday in the late afternoon, too. If you want to come along to see one of the top two or three sub-premium ranges in the US, let me know, I'll be glad to show you around. You should also bring a rifle as I need to do some shooting to prepare for a match on Saturday evening. It will probably bore hell out of you as I will be punching little .22 RF holes in mere paper. ARA Lee? Mind if I join you? I only have my ruger 10/22 but I shoot against ya all the same. Just need a few sighters. I think I am set up for 100 yrds at this time. |
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I plan to go out to Benchrest one night this week after work. Most likely Thursday. I'll probably go out on Friday in the late afternoon, too. If you want to come along to see one of the top two or three sub-premium ranges in the US, let me know, I'll be glad to show you around. You should also bring a rifle as I need to do some shooting to prepare for a match on Saturday evening. It will probably bore hell out of you as I will be punching little .22 RF holes in mere paper. ARA Lee? Mind if I join you? I only have my ruger 10/22 but I shoot against ya all the same. Just need a few sighters. I think I am set up for 100 yrds at this time. We're having our first Vintage Benchrest match of the season on Saturday night. Bring your .22 rifle and shoot, it's a pretty good time. We shoot "Barnyard Benchrest" targets at 50 yards with sporter rifles, and a target similar to the RBA target in target rifle class. No wind flags and cheap ammo. Food and drink afterwards. This link has the rules and some more info: http://www.vintagebenchrest.com/ I'll let you know when I firm up a time. |
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What a load of crap this thread turned in to. We have the elitests and the rule benders. $500 to shoot a gun? That is funny stuff right there. I'm glad you guys have the money to drop $500 on a membership to something. Do you want to shoot this week? Won't cost you a thing except the gas to get yourself to the range and your time. I'll supply a rifle and ammo. Or a hand gun and ammo. Just tell me what you want to try. |
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What a load of crap this thread turned in to. We have the elitests and the rule benders. $500 to shoot a gun? That is funny stuff right there. I'm glad you guys have the money to drop $500 on a membership to something. Do you want to shoot this week? Won't cost you a thing except the gas to get yourself to the range and your time. I'll supply a rifle and ammo. Or a hand gun and ammo. Just tell me what you want to try. I'm not sure if you are being serious or giving me a hard time. I'll assume you are being serious. Thanks for the invitation but I'm busy this week. I would love to go shooting and actually have a new gun I need to shoot, a FAL, but my week is busy and .308 is expensive. I don't look for handouts and wouldn't let you provide the ammo anyway, not my style. I was thinking that $500 is a lot for a place to shoot. But if you have it then I guess it's not a big deal to have a safe place to shoot. Me? I see $500, I see 1000+ rounds of surplus .308, a Springfield XD, or some goodies for my collection. Again I apprciate the offer. |
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What a load of crap this thread turned in to. We have the elitests and the rule benders. $500 to shoot a gun? That is funny stuff right there. I'm glad you guys have the money to drop $500 on a membership to something. Do you want to shoot this week? Won't cost you a thing except the gas to get yourself to the range and your time. I'll supply a rifle and ammo. Or a hand gun and ammo. Just tell me what you want to try. I'm not sure if you are being serious or giving me a hard time. I'll assume you are being serious. Thanks for the invitation but I'm busy this week. I would love to go shooting and actually have a new gun I need to shoot, a FAL, but my week is busy and .308 is expensive. I don't look for handouts and wouldn't let you provide the ammo anyway, not my style. I was thinking that $500 is a lot for a place to shoot. But if you have it then I guess it's not a big deal to have a safe place to shoot. Me? I see $500, I see 1000+ rounds of surplus .308, a Springfield XD, or some goodies for my collection. Again I apprciate the offer. It's a serious offer. $500 is the cost to buy in and includes the first year's dues. The rest makes you a "vested" member which means you'll get your money back (plus interest? Don't hold your breathe, knowing the way the board works) if the club folds. A vested member can buy a life membership after 5 years, which means a significant savings if you stay here for a couple of decades. $200 per year dues are not terrible. What is the cost to shoot at the indoor ranges around St. Louis or Columbia? Busch Wildlife and Henges are out for me - I won't tolerate the attitude and inflexibility of their range officers. They're cheap, but not free. I shoot at least once every week on average, so a low $5 fee elsewhere exceeds my annual dues to a group of ranges that easily surpass the rest in the area, plus I have access to a great clubhouse at the main range, and warm crappers at all of the others but the new 300 yard range. If I was shooting at a $5 per hour range, well then 4 or 5 trips to the club would be par cost. Can you hook an RV at Bullseye (or would you want to  ) and stay all weekend? Or sleep in the clubhouse or in a tent with a kitchen and shower available?
Reifsnider and Logan are mostly dangerous ranges with extremely poor gun handling, and Reifsnider is large enough that it's hard to keep an eye on everyone else. Busch and Reifsnider built ranges looking South - WTF? Logan has possibilities, but the rifle range is short. I haven't been to the new range at Ranacker, I hear it's pretty nice. Benchrest is not for everyone, but it's a great place to shoot for me, Max Paul, coldesteele35, Bostecrisco, and about a thousand other souls, not to mention the out of towners that come from all over the US. |
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I've been considering BRRC for a few years now, but I have a couple questions:
Are black powder cartridge rifles allowed? Looking at the schedule on the BRRC website, it appears that most weekends during the spring/summer/fall that the long ranges are reserved for matches. What's your (members) take on this? Is it hard to get some 300-600 yd range time in on weekends during the shooting season? My primary interest in the club is the extended rifle ranges, but if those > 200 yard ranges are pretty much booked up by matches for the entire summer... Is the $300 vesting one-time? If you wanted to take a year off from the recurring fee, do you have to re-pay the $300 to re-join? AeroE, are you a member of BERPC? Any benefits to that if so? Thanks. |
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I've been considering BRRC for a few years now, but I have a couple questions: Are black powder cartridge rifles allowed? Looking at the schedule on the BRRC website, it appears that most weekends during the spring/summer/fall that the long ranges are reserved for matches. What's your (members) take on this? Is it hard to get some 300-600 yd range time in on weekends during the shooting season? My primary interest in the club is the extended rifle ranges, but if those > 200 yard ranges are pretty much booked up by matches for the entire summer... Is the $300 vesting one-time? If you wanted to take a year off from the recurring fee, do you have to re-pay the $300 to re-join? AeroE, are you a member of BERPC? Any benefits to that if so? Thanks. Did you see the BPCR matches on the schedule? We have several BPCR shooters. There's a new range that goes to 300 yards and will be available most weekends this year. That would be every day if some jackasses hadn't done their asshattery up there (besides all the other vandalism in past years on other ranges). The vesting fee is a one time fee, if handled correctly. If you want to take a break, get your status changed to "inactive"; talk to the manager about the details. The usage at the 600 yard range is probably not as restricted as you might imagine from the schedule. It's almost always available in the mid to late afternoon after a match is over. That's the best time to shoot during the summer, anyway. There will be lots of days when you'll be alone. I don't belong to the BERPC any more. There were some benefits as the club held an FFL, so guns and accessories could be ordered at wholesale. I shot in the reduced course Highpower club matches at Busch for a couple of years. The Busch range folks decided we were starting too early, making completion of a match before the range opened to the public just about impossible. I didn't like shooting from the booths, either. I have no idea what the club has going nowadays. |
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$500 to shoot a gun? That is funny stuff right there. I'm glad you guys have the money to drop $500 on a membership to something. look at it as $500 to not deal with all the junk at the public ranges and the shooting is free
I've been wanting to join Benchrest for years but I just don't have the time right now to shoot enough to make it worth it. Once the kids are older I'll be joining for sure. I've visited a couple of times and yeah, it is nice. As of now I settle for being the occasional guest. |
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$20 a yr for 100 yrd pistol range with pavilion, Concrete floor, benches, target stands
565 yrd range with pavilion, Concrete floor, benches, target stands 25yrd, 50 yrd, 100 yrd, 150 yrd, 200 yrd, 300 yrd and steel gongs & 365, 400, 500 and 565 yrds that has no 3 sec rules, no range nazi's Shotgun range and it has a feild house with water, fridge, chairs, tables BBQ pits for get togethers so on All for $20 Yr but its in Owensville |
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$20 a yr for 100 yrd pistol range with pavilion, Concrete floor, benches, target stands 565 yrd range with pavilion, Concrete floor, benches, target stands 25yrd, 50 yrd, 100 yrd, 150 yrd, 200 yrd, 300 yrd and steel gongs & 365, 400, 500 and 565 yrds that has no 3 sec rules, no range nazi's Shotgun range and it has a feild house with water, fridge, chairs, tables BBQ pits for get togethers so on All for $20 Yr but its in Owensville Unfortunately it's an hour and a half away or I would be a member down there. |
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Maybe an hour for me and it would be worth it, but they dont like us 50 BMG guys. 
So for now BRRC is the logical place for me. I was under the impression from another BRRC member that 50 cals had been cordially asked to Go Away... I will check back with him though. BRRC is a nice place but the 2 or 3 second rules are idiotic. it has dick to do with safety, the guy who launches a bullet over the berm will do it at 1 shot every 2 or 3 seconds, one shot per hour, one shot per DAY.... WEEK.... MONTH.... Time has little to do with infinity and jelly donuts.... Er um shooting. Idiots are Idiots regardless of the shot count per second. |
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Maybe an hour for me and it would be worth it, but they dont like us 50 BMG guys.
So for now BRRC is the logical place for me. I was under the impression from another BRRC member that 50 cals had been cordially asked to Go Away... I will check back with him though. BRRC is a nice place but the 2 or 3 second rules are idiotic. it has dick to do with safety, the guy who launches a bullet over the berm will do it at 1 shot every 2 or 3 seconds, one shot per hour, one shot per DAY.... WEEK.... MONTH.... Time has little to do with infinity and jelly donuts.... Er um shooting. Idiots are Idiots regardless of the shot count per second. We had one young feller bump firing an AK into a 5 yard berm that couldn't keep the bullets in the dirt. He also had a problem understanding why his hot rifle was cooking off. No matter now, the dumbass is gone. I've watched other fine folks from Missouri walk targets up the berm at CMMG's range. To the top, at which point they continued to shoot over the berm. Some of those might have been your friends, I don't know. |
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I have never been a member of any formal ranges prior to moving back to MO. I had been in TN for the past 19 years or so and did a lot of shooting. All either on private ground or at public parks where there was almost never anyone there.
I always hated the idea of having to pay to join a range and then deal with other people and silly rules. Then, when we moved back, I lucked out and landed about 5 miles from BRRC. I went and checked it out and was blown away. On my second year of membership now, fully vested I suppose. I go out most every weekend and quite a bit during the week. Never have any issues with crowding and rarely see any idiots. The fact that it isnt the cheapest place appeals to me. Having to spend a decent amount of cash for the privelege of using their facilites weeds out a bunch of idiots. I think that theory is fairly well illustrated in this thread. The fact that the facilites are world class, and worth every penny of the dues is just a bonus. |
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Maybe an hour for me and it would be worth it, but they dont like us 50 BMG guys.
So for now BRRC is the logical place for me. I was under the impression from another BRRC member that 50 cals had been cordially asked to Go Away...News to me. We shoot them. Although, without the suppressor, they are a bit obnoxious and I dont really enjoy shooting them. I will check back with him though. BRRC is a nice place but the 2 or 3 second rules are idiotic. it has dick to do with safety, the guy who launches a bullet over the berm will do it at 1 shot every 2 or 3 seconds, one shot per hour, one shot per DAY.... WEEK.... MONTH....When I am practicing with AR's, I have violated the 2 second rule. I will say this, once you have been around a while, and have demonstrated that you are not a fool, you arent bothered much. Common sense reigns. That has been my experience. Time has little to do with infinity and jelly donuts.... Er um shooting. Idiots are Idiots regardless of the shot count per second. Agreed |
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Hi Jim, How is your FIL? I haven't seen him in a few years, but last I did see him, he was back up on his feet which I was happy to see. Did you get a 50 BMG? I think you shot mine that day but Al didn't. FIL is well. Playing golf last week I heard. I had a 50 briefly, wasnt my thing. Sold it. A buddy had one suppressed, was much more pleasant to shoot too. And yes, I think I did shoot yours, an AR50 IIRC. |