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12/22/2008 2:01:16 PM EDT
was just wondering about blueprinting for a remmy 700 (.308)

can anyone recomend where to get it done,
i know theres a few places that 'can' do it,
but always i prefer to be refered by good results from people who have had it done

12/22/2008 7:23:29 PM EDT
[#1]
Some plumber guy that hangs out on here is aparently up to snuff…
12/23/2008 12:59:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
was just wondering about blueprinting for a remmy 700 (.308)

can anyone recomend where to get it done,
i know theres a few places that 'can' do it,
but always i prefer to be refered by good results from people who have had it done



'Blueprinting' or do you mean accurising?
Tightening up a factory action is not blueprinting, for that you need a set of drawings (blueprints) to work to.
Tightening/truing the action is not too hard and great results can be had. Speak to Mark, he has the kit.
12/23/2008 2:15:34 AM EDT
[#3]
Mark who?
12/23/2008 2:28:01 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Mark who?


Streetfighter. You can im him
12/23/2008 6:53:33 AM EDT
[#5]
+1 for SF, he's got all the right stuff for sorting your remy
12/23/2008 7:25:01 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
+1 for SF, he's got all the right stuff for sorting your remy


An axe, a club hammer, and a blunt chisel?
12/23/2008 8:18:40 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
+1 for SF, he's got all the right stuff for sorting your remy


An axe, a club hammer, and a blunt chisel?


I forgot about the axe but I still have the angle grinder
12/23/2008 10:24:22 AM EDT
[#8]
I thought that he used a big adjustable spanner.

Scope eye
Why not call it Blueprinting intead of accurizing same result just different terminology? You DONT require the actual blueprints to re-work a part be it a gun part or even race engine part.All we are talking about here is tightening factory production tolerances,just dont think there is any need to try and cum the smart arse,as what tends to happens arses get shown to look like a twat
12/23/2008 10:31:13 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I thought that he used a big adjustable spanner.


Some people say he's just a big spanner!

12/23/2008 11:42:30 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I thought that he used a big adjustable spanner.
You DONT require the actual blueprints to re-work a part be it a gun part or even race engine part.All we are talking about here is tightening factory production tolerances,just dont think there is any need to try and cum the smart arse,as what tends to happens arses get shown to look like a twat


Umm without the manufacturers drawings how does one know what the optimum dimensions would be for each part?
12/23/2008 11:47:29 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I thought that he used a big adjustable spanner.

Scope eye
Why not call it Blueprinting intead of accurizing same result just different terminology? You DONT require the actual blueprints to re-work a part be it a gun part or even race engine part.All we are talking about here is tightening factory production tolerances,just dont think there is any need to try and cum the smart arse,as what tends to happens arses get shown to look like a twat



Bit strong, you obvousley don't know of scope-eye, he knows exactly what he's talking about and is no 'arse'
12/23/2008 12:11:34 PM EDT
[#12]
Really Tim why you say that?? Is that because he has loads of posts??

ANY person with a good basic engineering background could tell you that you dont need drawing to "Blueprint" a part/item.
12/23/2008 12:23:13 PM EDT
[#13]
so if you haven't got a blueprint.. how exactly are you going to Blueprint an article?

Surely blue printing by it's name requires a blueprint...

or it would be call pissing in the wind - printing....

I know of all the people on this board who i'd trust to do any work on my toys...

and it wouldnt be someone who didnt know blue prints is required for blue-printin...

Street fighter des not blue print because he doesn't have the blueprints to work from...

He Plumbs using all the knowledge he has gleamed from many sources..
12/23/2008 12:35:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Strange what you say about having "Blueprints/Drawings" as haveing spent years developing and putting together Engines (and blueprinting) and drivetrains for little companys like Jordon F1,Subaru/Prodrive,WRC,Seat,Hewland,Pilbeam to name a few,i cant remember haveing  to refer to "blueprints" when we took a std part and improved/modifed/re-engineerd it,but hay what do little teams/companys like that know
12/23/2008 12:48:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Everyone knows exactly what "blueprinting" means when mentioned in reference to rifle actions
12/23/2008 12:51:26 PM EDT
[#16]
Why dont we just ban the word "blueprint" and only allow the use of the term "optimise".
12/23/2008 12:56:50 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Everyone knows exactly what "blueprinting" means when mentioned in reference to rifle actions


About £500 in my experience
12/23/2008 12:58:28 PM EDT
[#18]
well that's not blue-printing,

that is design and development....

Blueprinting: The meticulous matching to factory specifications all parts and/or components. Hand-fitting parts to the absolute design callout or manufacturer's specifications

looks like Blueprinting requires spec aka Drawings also known as Blueprints....

Having taught more than a few people from the industry I'll reserve MY judgement...
12/23/2008 12:58:31 PM EDT
[#19]
RichardH

Your experience????? that with tatty old handloads and a doddgy Browning???
12/23/2008 1:03:44 PM EDT
[#20]
no my experience of teaching people in the design and development fields of motorsport,

i've not been impressed by what i've seen, lets just put it that way,
but they were all design engineers with degree's


And for what it's worth, my reloads are pretty shit hot,


eta
12/23/2008 1:07:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Take it the boys you where teaching where jnr engineers from the team "toys are us" then??  Hows the weather back up in my old neck of the woods laaaaaaaa??
12/23/2008 1:11:42 PM EDT
[#22]
OK, I know most on here would know what you meant by the term blueprinting, but seeing as there are only one or two here that could actually do the work there is a good chance that the job might go elsewhere. Now I know several riflesmiths with a reputation (good or bad doesn't matter, they still get a lot of work) that will 'blueprint' and use drawings and will charge well over the odds to boot for what the customer only wanted was an accurising job. One will even routinely throw away factory new Remington barrels without even looking at them as they are 'all shit' (I think you know who I mean, streetfighter )

I even have customers wanting the action 'blueprinted' to match a numbered drawing (possibly ringing me just after speaking to one of the other riflesmiths around) and don't want just a tightening job.

You can get wildly differing prices for what you think is the same job but one will be for what you want the other won't be.
12/23/2008 1:22:21 PM EDT
[#23]
nooooooo university graduates the lot of them....

actually I retract my statement, i've just double negatived myself by using the university word...

Cold and wet!
12/23/2008 1:26:25 PM EDT
[#24]
Grim "oop north" as ever Some of the "Grads" i had to work with couldnt engineer their way out of a paper bag
12/23/2008 1:28:27 PM EDT
[#25]
my favorite quotes include...

"if I can design it, it can be made"

&

"What do you mean You cant mill a square corner"
12/24/2008 9:24:23 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Take it the boys you where teaching where junior engineers from the team "toys are us" then??  How's the weather back up in my old neck of the woods laaaaaaaa??


Being a brilliant engineer and being literate aren't mutually exclusive, or are they?

By the way welcome to the board, get the beers in
12/24/2008 10:12:06 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Really Tim why you say that?? Is that because he has loads of posts??

ANY person with a good basic engineering background could tell you that you dont need drawing to "Blueprint" a part/item.


I don't give a flying fu*k what you call it, my point is I dont really think that it was necessary to word your post as you did.I think your put down of scope-eye,who is e respected RFD and gun plumber back fired and made you look a cu*t

That is all

12/24/2008 11:01:29 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Really Tim why you say that?? Is that because he has loads of posts??

ANY person with a good basic engineering background could tell you that you dont need drawing to "Blueprint" a part/item.


Number of posts is irrelevant. Look at me, I have way more than Scope-Eye and I know f+ck all.....if you put quantity over quality you should be in government number crunching..

..anyway, stop arguing as it's still not too late to go on the naughty list.......and then you'll be crying tomorrow morning

12/24/2008 2:22:09 PM EDT
[#29]
Tim

chill dont start swinging your dick mate,it might get caught on somethingMe a cunt no mate,he is not the only RFD in the world now is he  If all you can do is pick holes in my spelling well crack on son,catch up with you on a range sometime soon will let my work and shooting do my talking for me

Sorry Icarus dont want to go in the corner as i dont like the dark


Yep get the beers in,this looks like a fun place to be.
12/24/2008 4:28:13 PM EDT
[#30]
....and then peace broke out in time for christmas.....

If this thread continues to degenerate, I will lock it for the good of all mankind

ps, Merry Christmas everyone
12/25/2008 1:24:20 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Tim

chill dont start swinging your dick mate,it might get caught on somethingMe a cunt no mate,he is not the only RFD in the world now is he  If all you can do is pick holes in my spelling well crack on son,catch up with you on a range sometime soon will let my work and shooting do my talking for me

Sorry Icarus dont want to go in the corner as i dont like the dark


Yep get the beers in,this looks like a fun place to be.











12/25/2008 1:34:16 AM EDT
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12/30/2008 4:46:39 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
RichardH

Your experience????? that with tatty old handloads and a doddgy Browning???


I suspect you are much closer than Pakistan my friend