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5/21/2007 5:17:28 PM EDT
 Anyone here keep a "bug out bag" packed, if so, what's in it?  
5/21/2007 6:12:12 PM EDT
[#1]
Water purifier, lightsticks, first aid kit, extra bottles of perscription medicine, extra Beretta 92 mags, 500 rounds of 9mm, extra HK mags, AR mags, 1K rounds of .223, Maglight, extra DD batteries for maglight, extra CR123 batteries for various Surefire lights,  wind up weather radio, bottled water, MRE's, windproof lighter, extra keys to the vehicles, GPS unit, CB radio, cash, very large knife with mini survival kit in handle, rope, extra dogfood (go ahead and laugh, but if it's possible to drive to bail out, they are going to!) camp stove, camp stove fuel, lantern if possible, folding tree saw, Powerbars.  All my stuff is next to my rockclimbing gear and my camping gear.  Obviously some of that stuff would go as well.

Wanting to get a mini strobe signal light, a couple of extra cans of fix a flat for the vehicles, more tools put in the truck.
5/21/2007 6:53:18 PM EDT
[#2]

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Water purifier, lightsticks, first aid kit, extra bottles of perscription medicine, extra Beretta 92 mags, 500 rounds of 9mm, extra HK mags, AR mags, 1K rounds of .223, Maglight, extra DD batteries for maglight, extra CR123 batteries for various Surefire lights,  wind up weather radio, bottled water, MRE's, windproof lighter, extra keys to the vehicles, GPS unit, CB radio, cash, very large knife with mini survival kit in handle, rope, extra dogfood (go ahead and laugh, but if it's possible to drive to bail out, they are going to!) camp stove, camp stove fuel, lantern if possible, folding tree saw, Powerbars.  All my stuff is next to my rockclimbing gear and my camping gear.  Obviously some of that stuff would go as well.

Wanting to get a mini strobe signal light, a couple of extra cans of fix a flat for the vehicles, more tools put in the truck.


What's that weigh...200lbs or so?  Sounds more like a BOW (bug out wheelbarrow)
5/22/2007 4:15:26 AM EDT
[#3]
Guns, and Ammo! (no, not the magazine)

I'll pick up the rest of the stuff later.
5/22/2007 4:19:37 AM EDT
[#4]
really depends on the level of threat. i have 3 different level of bags, and also depends on the role i will play if i am with a group.  i mean if i am the only medic i will grab my more medic intensive bag.  if there is others  around like say Kerry, i could take only my primary medic bag and with his bag we would be good to go. so i could take more of something else.

i mean some times you might need a BOB and not even need a weapon with it due to something else aka storm, flood, stuff like that. my BOB will be different than SHTF, since i live in the sticks i never new how much i would be bugging out in thee first place. i was thinking more along the bugging in.

you can pretty much figure around 100 pounds of extra weight if you throw rifle and all the other stuff to gather.  its not a easy task. all depends.  

Ronald
5/22/2007 5:24:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Just pron. I'd die without my stash. 3 years worth of magazines, several USB sticks, and over 100 DVDs.





No, seriously,


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really depends on the level of threat....depends on the role i will play if i am with a group....i mean some times you might need a BOB and not even need a weapon with it due to something else aka storm, flood, stuff like that....you can pretty much figure around 100 pounds of extra weight if you throw rifle and all the other stuff to gather.  its not a easy task. all depends.  


What he said.
5/22/2007 6:30:07 AM EDT
[#6]

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Wanting to get a mini strobe signal light, a couple of extra cans of fix a flat for the vehicles, more tools put in the truck.

I dunno man, those last few items might put you over the top and make it too heavy to carry.  

Geez man, why not just fortify your house and stay there with all of your gear?
5/22/2007 8:11:37 AM EDT
[#7]

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Geez man, why not just fortify your house and stay there with all of your gear?


That's what I told JOHNSON1911 when we were talking about this yesterday.  99% of the time my SHTF plan does not involve leaving the area.  That's the benefit of living in a rural area with low population density and long lines of sight.  There could be massive civil unrest in every major city in the USA and I'd be sitting in front of the TV with some microwave popcorn just watching.

The one scenario I see requiring a bug-out plan is a nuclear event in the USA where the radioactive fallout is heading my way and I need to get out of the way of the fallout plume.  Even then I'm not convinced that I could travel the distance necessary to escape with millions of other people heading the same direction (fallout plumes tend to be pretty big, remember the one from Chernobyl actually reached the east coast of the USA) before the radioactivity arrived.  Roads would be choked, gasoline supply nonexistant, and horses too slow.  If you think roads or gas would be available look what happened on the highways around New Orleans during Katrina, and that was just water.  I've thought of stealing one of those railroad trucks with the extra railroad-type wheels installed and taking the railroad as far as I could, assuming that the railroads would be shut down since nobody wants to send a train through a fallout area.

To sum up:  Nukes = pwned     Anything else= why leave?

Maybe I've been playing too much S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

5/22/2007 9:21:59 AM EDT
[#8]

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Geez man, why not just fortify your house and stay there with all of your gear?


Yep, Thats me.

Just come knockin' and maybe I'll let you recover your fallen in the morning before they start to stink.

eta: I'm the asshole with gasoline in the lawn sprinkler system



5/22/2007 9:34:11 AM EDT
[#9]
Cav, Id be happy to help you with that BoB because what you listed most GI's (former Infantry) don't carry that much weight into combat.

Here is my SUMMER BoB.

My BoB is meant to do one thing, get me from point A to point B as quickley as possible.
The only things I carry that are not pictured are two water bottles, my Katadyne personal filter and my Makarov and extra mag.

My winter BoB is actually a small Ruck as it hold winter gear.

It goes everywhere I go...EVERYWHERE.





The thousands of rounds of ammo, gallons of water, tons of food and eveything else is kept at the location I will be heading.  Travel at night, hunker down during the day. Stay off main roads.

Good links
www.usrsog.org
www.survivalblog.com
www.frugalsquirrels.com
5/22/2007 9:52:34 AM EDT
[#10]
I am with MoCarry-
Keep it light enough to be with you, cheap enough to have a couple (at work).

I never let my gas tanks go below half.

You can go broke trying to plan for everything.
5/22/2007 11:49:43 AM EDT
[#11]
This is what is in my "bug out bag" !!!



There is this cute blonde chick around the block and I plan on dying tired but happy.  
5/22/2007 1:33:02 PM EDT
[#12]
I used to have a Bug Out Box packed in my Bug Out Jeep.  But, it's mostly depleted now.  I really need to stock back up on emergency supplies.

I have always been more of the Bug In mindset anyway, fortify my house, and as long as it's still standing, I'd stay in it.



Duke, you're playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R.  to, eh?  I love it so far, haven't gotten too far into it yet though.  I am dying to find a sniper rifle!  Hell, even just a scope for my AK74 would be nice at this point.
5/22/2007 5:50:45 PM EDT
[#13]
+1 on the Bug In.  If you guys think I am hauling all that on my back, no way.  It would be greatly pared down on foot.  I agree with Duke, about the only thing that would make me actually haul out would be some type of NBC situation.  Natural disaster, I am holing up with my goodies!
5/22/2007 6:24:32 PM EDT
[#14]



5/22/2007 7:50:59 PM EDT
[#15]

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+1 on the Bug In.  If you guys think I am hauling all that on my back, no way.  It would be greatly pared down on foot.  I agree with Duke, about the only thing that would make me actually haul out would be some type of NBC situation.  Natural disaster, I am holing up with my goodies!


+2 on the bug in.

As long as the enviroment will permit staying home I will stay put with all the ammo and guns in the vault.  No need to leave the safety of home...we can always retreat to the vault to load mags and swap out an overheated gun for a fresh one.  8" of concrete and rebar offers a lot more protection then the door on my truck
5/22/2007 8:54:51 PM EDT
[#16]

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HA!  Look everybody, he's got a 96 pound no-so-weakling monkey on his back.  

(Good, that'll make it easier to pop him in the noodle and take his stuff.)
5/23/2007 4:31:48 AM EDT
[#17]
Bug in or bug out... I think the thing is that the majority of people mistake a Get Home Bag for a Bug out bag then put WAY too much stuff in it...

The Ruck and Gear is a load out for a weekend and I used practically everything in the Ruck... most of the weight was Drinking Water... little food... Maybe 3 days worth MAYBE
the rest was sleep gear, Snivel Gear, navigation gear (Compass and pace beads... I still don't trust a GPS ) I could forage for water and food if needed but this event did not allow it...  The point I am trying to make is that after you get a few things in a Ruck it gets HEAVY... I think what most of you are referring to would in fact be a Get Home Bag... What was in this Ruck?

Esbit stove and Trioxane
Canteen Cup Stove
two 1 Quart Canteens
one 2 Quart Canteens
two 1 Liter Nalgene bottles
Ecotat Sleeping bag
Goretex Bivy
Food
Snivel gear (mostly Underarmor Poly pro)
Spare socks
Spare Shorts
Therma Rest Sleep mat
and for this OP a piece of special mission gear... UHF SATCOM antenna.

this is mildly tailored for a weekend in May not a winters day or a summers day

Further weight included Combat gear not in Ruck
Weapon
Chest rig with 3 additional Magazines
Signal Kit (Panel and Strobe)
Admin kit (small folder with maps, SOI, marking pens, pencils etc)
Compass and pace beads
2 additional 1 Quart canteens
Butt Pack with Woobie, Poncho
Booboo kit....

Things could be swapped but keep in mind that most of this weight was Water.
and I brought NONE back and I did not drink all of it myself... Some were not prepared for the need for water... We did have treatment and so on with us....
5/23/2007 5:31:30 AM EDT
[#18]
Looks good Kerry but you got to have some butt paper in there somewhere from an MRE or a smashed roll. I hate using leafs and cobs on my tender hiney hole.
5/23/2007 6:04:53 AM EDT
[#19]

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Looks good Kerry but you got to have some butt paper in there somewhere from an MRE or a smashed roll. I hate using leafs and cobs on my tender hiney hole.


+1 on the smashed roll in a zip lock bag.


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...some butt paper in there somewhere from an MRE...


I was not able wipe my arse with a stamp sized piece of TP
5/23/2007 6:17:30 AM EDT
[#20]

Originally Posted By Brother Kane:

Quoted:
Looks good Kerry but you got to have some butt paper in there somewhere from an MRE or a smashed roll. I hate using leafs and cobs on my tender hiney hole.


+1 on the smashed roll in a zip lock bag.


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...some butt paper in there somewhere from an MRE...


I was not able wipe my arse with a stamp sized piece of TP


Yup had butt wipes too... BDU Pocket small Walmart brand flushable wipes in the refill package fit perfect... By the way after the op when I hung my ruck on the Scale of Demoralization I discovered that I as PL had in fact been carrying the most weight... I thought I was just a puss! there were guys who had next to nothing in their gear no snivel gear, no water even... or precious little, But the PL had some to give out.
I carried in a total of 20.5# of water... so gear weight was in actuallity about 75#
that scale weight was without the MRE which weighs about 4#
5/23/2007 6:54:29 AM EDT
[#21]
WATER we don't need no stinking WATER. and it wasnt me. i make sure i have water if i am just going on a trip. never know.

Ronald

5/23/2007 6:59:47 AM EDT
[#22]
After eating an an entire MRE, you should not need TP.  Grab those cheeks and spread 'em far and wide.  That brick should fall free & clear.  A clean break BABY!

And it seems as though you forgot the baby powder if you're gonna be hiking.  There's nothing quite like a little case of chafing to ruin your hike in a hurry.
5/24/2007 9:55:27 PM EDT
[#23]
You guys should see some of the bug out bags that the Zombie Squad guys pack.  I was impressed.