Posted: 9/1/2015 9:26:58 PM EDT
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What is your preferred method of bullet button manipulation? More specifically, how do you train for tac reloads etc...?
I've been using the UBBT on ranger plates from Thordsen Customs which works pretty well... Unless I pick up a mag without one. |
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To be honest if I'm in a situation where I have to make "tactical reloads" I'm unlocking my bullet buttons and shooting to kill.
Anyone who says otherwise is either stupid or stupid. You don't shoot anyone for fun and games, you shoot someone to save your life, or someone else's life by killing the other guy. Personally I'm not going to risk my life over some infringement of an inalienable right. Facing death or a fine of even a few hundred dollars I'll take the fine. |
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To be honest if I'm in a situation where I have to make "tactical reloads" I'm unlocking my bullet buttons and shooting to kill. Anyone who says otherwise is either stupid or stupid. You don't shoot anyone for fun and games, you shoot someone to save your life, or someone else's life by killing the other guy. Personally I'm not going to risk my life over some infringement of an inalienable right. Facing death or a fine of even a few hundred dollars I'll take the fine. 
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Isn't that what the Raddlock is for? Dunno, tell us more. I keep my rifles legal. I'm not expecting SHTF but a burglar/rapist isn't out of the question. If the bad guy(s) don't flee on my command, they have clearly have nefarious intent. There'll be little/no time to fuck around changing your bullet button. It'll be time to shoot, then reload and call 911. At least, that's how I conceive of it. Mostly, I conceive of it never happening. If SHTF/TEOTWAWKI, I agree with Paul, that bullet button is coming off. |
My 3Gun ARs has the "Raddlock" . The other one has the standard CA compliant bullet button and this:magmagnet
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In a SHTF situation I totally agree with Paul. As far as training legally at the range, I keep my rifles compliant, even if unconstitutional. No need to become a felon and lose my guns all together.
As far as training on the one-way range and running classes in CA, I've been using the UBBT. Does anyone else have another way they like to run their rifles for training purposes? |
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That's a plan. So, featureless OLL can have a regular mag release but you cannot legally install a high cap mag? Featureless can have, legally owned, high capacity mags and mag release. Bullet button can have all the evil features but only 10 round mags. |
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Featureless can have, legally owned, high capacity mags and mag release. Bullet button can have all the evil features but only 10 round mags. Quoted:
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That's a plan. So, featureless OLL can have a regular mag release but you cannot legally install a high cap mag? Featureless can have, legally owned, high capacity mags and mag release. Bullet button can have all the evil features but only 10 round mags. Ah, yes, completely featureless including no pistol grip. Got it! |
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When using the UBBT, do people do it with the reach over method like the guy in the videos? It seems pretty slow. Do you think having a dummy round on a retractable lanyard on your belt would be faster?
-I guess maybe leaving your left hand on the hand guard, using your right hand to grab the tool and use it to release the mag, then having your right hand grab the pistol grip and do a normal reload? |
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http://www.rifletailor.com/advanced-ar-15-speed-funnel-maglock-bullet-button/ try this. Thanks for the link. The funnel looks really short. I know they supply a shortened mag catch, but is it recessed enough to prevent it being actuated by your finger? It looks really promising. Is this what a lot of people use for classes? |
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When using the UBBT, do people do it with the reach over method like the guy in the videos? It seems pretty slow. Do you think having a dummy round on a retractable lanyard on your belt would be faster? -I guess maybe leaving your left hand on the hand guard, using your right hand to grab the tool and use it to release the mag, then having your right hand grab the pistol grip and do a normal reload? I reach under for the button and sort of use my trigger finger as an guide for the UBBT. I've been practicing this a lot and have gotten my reloads down pretty quick. I shot a comp this past weekend and saw all sorts of methods from UBBT, tools on a lanyard, ring tools, rad locks (unlocked and non-Ca complient)) and even regular mag releases (also not CA complient). The guy I saw having the most trouble reloading was one of the guys running a lanyard. Everytime he went to reload he had to reach for the lanyard which would never be right were he thought it was. Once he found it, he fumbled with it getting it oriented to punch his mag release. The guy next to me was running a regular mag release and wasn't noticibly faster at all at reloading than I was (I'm sure if he practiced his reloads a bit more though he would be). I think the UBBT is the best option at running a ca compliment mag release. YMMV. Considering when reloading I'm grabbing a magazine anyways, it just makes sense to eliminate as many other steps as possible by having my tool on my mag. Like plenty of other members here have stated though, in a SHTF situation my bullet button is going bye-bye. |
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I reach under for the button and sort of use my trigger finger as an guide for the UBBT. I've been practicing this a lot and have gotten my reloads down pretty quick. I shot a comp this past weekend and saw all sorts of methods from UBBT, tools on a lanyard, ring tools, rad locks (unlocked and non-Ca complient)) and even regular mag releases (also not CA complient). The guy I saw having the most trouble reloading was one of the guys running a lanyard. Everytime he went to reload he had to reach for the lanyard which would never be right were he thought it was. Once he found it, he fumbled with it getting it oriented to punch his mag release. The guy next to me was running a regular mag release and wasn't noticibly faster at all at reloading than I was (I'm sure if he practiced his reloads a bit more though he would be). I think the UBBT is the best option at running a ca compliment mag release. YMMV. Considering when reloading I'm grabbing a magazine anyways, it just makes sense to eliminate as many other steps as possible by having my tool on my mag. Like plenty of other members here have stated though, in a SHTF situation my bullet button is going bye-bye. Quoted:
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When using the UBBT, do people do it with the reach over method like the guy in the videos? It seems pretty slow. Do you think having a dummy round on a retractable lanyard on your belt would be faster? -I guess maybe leaving your left hand on the hand guard, using your right hand to grab the tool and use it to release the mag, then having your right hand grab the pistol grip and do a normal reload? I reach under for the button and sort of use my trigger finger as an guide for the UBBT. I've been practicing this a lot and have gotten my reloads down pretty quick. I shot a comp this past weekend and saw all sorts of methods from UBBT, tools on a lanyard, ring tools, rad locks (unlocked and non-Ca complient)) and even regular mag releases (also not CA complient). The guy I saw having the most trouble reloading was one of the guys running a lanyard. Everytime he went to reload he had to reach for the lanyard which would never be right were he thought it was. Once he found it, he fumbled with it getting it oriented to punch his mag release. The guy next to me was running a regular mag release and wasn't noticibly faster at all at reloading than I was (I'm sure if he practiced his reloads a bit more though he would be). I think the UBBT is the best option at running a ca compliment mag release. YMMV. Considering when reloading I'm grabbing a magazine anyways, it just makes sense to eliminate as many other steps as possible by having my tool on my mag. Like plenty of other members here have stated though, in a SHTF situation my bullet button is going bye-bye. Thanks for the input. Ya, I'm not interested in any shape or form breaking the law by adding the "detachable magazine" to my rifle while in state. That must be why the Radlock has such a strong following. I normally just use my chamber flag since most of my shooting is done at formal ranges with benches. I thought about the lanyard, but it seemed hard. I would rather have the tool on a retractable cord on my belt. I was also thinking of the UBBT for the magazines. I'm just looking for a good way to release the magazine without it taking forever when I take classes or if I decide to compete. Do you have any opinion on the rifle tailor BB funnel and glove tool? I'd actually been thinking of trying to rig a tool like that one a few months ago. I searched online, but people seem to not have too much success with their homemade ones, but this looks to be a more refined one. It appears to be very secure to the glove and the funnel I'm sure helps quite a bit. It looks to be as fast as normal releases while keeping the rifle California-safe. I was thinking of getting the UBBT magazines anyways. That way I could use the glove when I want to be fast, use the UBBT on the magazine, or use the chamber flag |