Posted: 7/6/2016 1:16:00 PM EDT
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Hi all!
Anyone who went thru registering their "assault" weapons in CA several years back, What were the practical considerations? How easy, hard? How did you prove registration? Who asked you to prove registration? Gun ranges? Just wanting to muddle thru life with as little hassle as possible. ~BenjP |
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In the 2000 ban registration was done by mail, this one is supposed to be available online. Registering allowed you to configure the rifle any way that you want to and allowed the use of high cap mags. High cap mags possessed in the state prior to 2000 were grandfathered and perfectly legal to possess. We now see what that meant. Range officers aren't cops but in my experience they were assholes and inspected everything at first. Eventually, through friendly compliance with their JBT ways, they got educated and backed off. Some days the RO did more shooting of my weapons and ammo than me. All while I smiled and kept my mouth shut. Their range, their rules. You didn't have to carry your paperwork though I did for years just in case. Supposedly if a cop wanted to they could place a call and verify your registration. Never had a run in with the cops. Sure they looked, they still do, no problems. |
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I went thru it in 2000. I was only 22 yrs old at the time. I got into ARs in 98, in mid 99 I was scrabling to get some lowers. I ended up registering a few ARs/ lowers and AKs. It was a simple affair. LGS had the DOJ registration card or you would call them to get one. The card had you list the make, model, caliber, serial #. You would send it into DOJ along with a $20.00 check. I got a letter back from them with a print out of the guns I has subimitted. I called them to asked if I needed to carry the print out with me whenever I went to the range. The gentlemen who answered at the DOJ told me no and that I was not required to produce any proof of RAW to anyone. Local LEO would be in contact with DOJ if there was questions regarding verification. We were allowed up to mid 2001 to register.
In the last 16 years I have never been asked to prove registration by leo or while at any range. I take my RAW to the range as normal, sometimes 2 or 3 along with other bullet button toys and no one pays any attention to them. ARs and AKs are a dime a dozen and RAW just blends in. Remember, we still live in America, proof is only required if you are in some kind of legal issue, do something stupid with guns, and the burden of proof is still on them. Ran into a group of leo doing an excerise next to our private range one time and they didn't seem to care one bit. We had all our cool stuff out that day. My AR was slung over my back, pistol was holstered, and they were not concern. Some of my friends registered and have never had any issues or have been ever been asked to produce proof. The only time I've have been asked was by another gun owner. He asked if I knew it was illeagel to not have the bullet button bla bla bla. I had to go thru the 10min spill about RAW back in 2000 bla bla bla. People fear registration and rightfully so. By registering them there could be a time in the distant future where we might asked to willingly surrender them. Also, you can't past them on to your children or spouse when you die. Its a personal choice. For me I don't care, I plan register some more next year. I possess the knowledge to build them. When they come I'll give them all the ones with the crapy uppers. |
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I went thru it in 2000. I was only 22 yrs old at the time. I got into ARs in 98, in mid 99 I was scrabling to get some lowers. I ended up registering a few ARs/ lowers and AKs. It was a simple affair. LGS had the DOJ registration card or you would call them to get one. The card had you list the make, model, caliber, serial #. You would send it into DOJ along with a $20.00 check. I got a letter back from them with a print out of the guns I has subimitted. I called them to asked if I needed to carry the print out with me whenever I went to the range. The gentlemen who answered at the DOJ told me no and that I was not required to produce any proof of RAW to anyone. Local LEO would be in contact with DOJ if there was questions regarding verification. We were allowed up to mid 2001 to register. In the last 16 years I have never been asked to prove registration by leo or while at any range. I take my RAW to the range as normal, sometimes 2 or 3 along with other bullet button toys and no one pays any attention to them. ARs and AKs are a dime a dozen and RAW just blends in. Remember, we still live in America, proof is only required if you are in some kind of legal issue, do something stupid with guns, and the burden of proof is still on them. Ran into a group of leo doing an excerise next to our private range one time and they didn't seem to care one bit. We had all our cool stuff out that day. My AR was slung over my back, pistol was holstered, and they were not concern. Some of my friends registered and have never had any issues or have been ever been asked to produce proof. The only time I've have been asked was by another gun owner. He asked if I knew it was illeagel to not have the bullet button bla bla bla. I had to go thru the 10min spill about RAW back in 2000 bla bla bla. People fear registration and rightfully so. By registering them there could be a time in the distant future where we might asked to willingly surrender them. Also, you can't past them on to your children or spouse when you die. Its a personal choice. For me I don't care, I plan register some more next year. I possess the knowledge to build them. When they come I'll give them all the ones with the crapy uppers. I'm older than you but that's pretty much the same experience I've had. I registered ten rifles in 2001. Never asked to show papers. |
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In the last 16 years I have never been asked to prove registration by leo or while at any range. I take my RAW to the range as normal, sometimes 2 or 3 along with other bullet button toys and no one pays any attention to them. ARs and AKs are a dime a dozen and RAW just blends in. ... The only time I've have been asked was by another gun owner. He asked if I knew it was illeagel to not have the bullet button bla bla bla. I had to go thru the 10min spill about RAW back in 2000 bla bla bla. I've never been checked at ranges either. The only times when casually mentioned was prior to 2000 when I had a preban AR service rifle, and grandfathered hicapacity mag at a CCW course maybe 5 years ago. That one was interesting. We were told to fully load our mags, and at the end of the live fire drill, we were told to empty our mags into the target before stepping back off the line. Of course, everyone had 10 round mags, while I had a 17 round one. About six others and the instructor was standing on the line waiting for me to empty about 10 rounds rather than the usual 3 that everyone else had. The instructor asked me how many rounds in that mag, I just responded preban. Instructor replied back, lucky you. Quoted:
In the 2000 ban registration was done by mail, this one is supposed to be available online. If I remember correctly, the 2000 registration was in card stock, not paper, and it required fingerprints. So, if fingerprints are required this time, I doubt it will be online. |
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If I remember correctly, the 2000 registration was in card stock, not paper, and it required fingerprints. So, if fingerprints are required this time, I doubt it will be online. I don't recall having to provide my finger print, but do remember having to give my drivers license #. The process was really easy. So easy that I don't think they do much of anything but enter your info into a database. Now how this info could potentially be used in the future is another story. I guess it would just make it easier for them to find you if the gun was ever used it a crime. My understanding of CA RAW is it is similar to the Fed's machine gun registry, only we can't sell or transfer it within the state. The whole thing was kind of BS, you could have put anything on it and they wouldn't know the difference. A friend even registered an M1A then later found out he didn't need to if he just removed the flash hider. Heck, you could have even put guns that you haven't even built yet and they would not know. It was kind of like an honor system. Rumor has it that if an LEO had any questions regarding your RAW they just run you info/drivers lic thru the DOJ. Now how easy or how long this takes we don't know. |