Posted: 10/17/2013 6:45:23 PM EDT
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Trying to get a better understanding where carry is legal and prohibited.
So far for carry I have: State/federal parks and water ways (unless they are nuclear) Pretty much any public place unless posted otherwise For carry prohibited: Any state for federal building (court house, library act..) Schools Bars public transit museums zoos hospital airport pretty much anywhere kids will be parks, amusement parts (how does this work with the state parks?) Any place where betting is allowed. sports arenas. If you are in a gun free zone you are allow to keep your gun in a glove box or console of your vehicle. Please let me know if any of this is wrong and feel free to add to the list. |
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I'd call the DNR on Clinton Lake just for clarification and to clarify boundaries. Should be ok in the park areas and outside roped-off boundaries on the lake, but best to make the call to be sure.
I'm curious to see if the DNR will have a fit over CCW in boats and while hunting. You can add public events requiring a permit to your list. |
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We still don't know the definite answer...My guess is no because on conservation laws...maybe it can be address directly later on. Quoted:
So it will be allowed while bowhunting? We still don't know the definite answer...My guess is no because on conservation laws...maybe it can be address directly later on. Well if the conservation laws supercede the CCW law, then there will be no CCW because according to the IDNR, the weapon will be transported unloaded and in a case specifically designed to house a weapon. I think that is going to be a good argument and I sure would like to know how an "official person" that has been embroiled in this fiasco from the beginning views it. I actually know first hand of an individual that has a CCW in Arkansas that was carrying while bowhunting. An imbalanced individual actually popped off some shotgun rounds at him while he was in the tree stand. The victim ducked behind the tree luckily dodging the birdshot. When the badges got there, he got reamed for not using his weapon in self-defense. The bad guy left the timber where he did this, went to a local convenience store and shot the clerk. Now, I don't know about the rest of you but I hunt by myself all of the time. A primary reason that I want to be armed is to protect myself from the loons and meth-heads when I am miles from anyone. Anyone that runs coonhounds know exactly what I mean. I'm talking about the running/training season as well as the regular hunting season |
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A clarification and follow-up legislation is definitely needed to allow for CC when hunting. A friend of mine took fire while in a tree-stand several years ago, coincidentally about the same time as when he had a rabid anti-hunting neighbor move in next to his hunting property.
CCW would be a good idea with all these cougar sightings in central IL, too. Especially during bow seasons. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Do other states allow CC while bow hunting?
As of now in IL you would be in possession of a firearm that is not valid for your archery permit. Also my guess is now it would be handled different if you had a 380 LCP or 38 J Frame as opposed to a 6" 44Mag N Frame. |
And you are not within 1000 feet of a road, or 10 miles from a school.
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When was the last time you were stopped by a Conservation agent while you were in the woods ????? And then when was the last time you were frisked by said conservation agent I haven't gotten stopped....I think they are scared of the dark. LOL What I am concerned about is if I do get in a jackpot and need the weapon, it would be a hell of a note to get jammed just because you were trying to defend yourself. And you can you imagine when Joe Scumbag's lawyer asked if you were legally carrying when you came across his "angel" while he was cooking meth and popped a few rounds in your general direction? My second point is that if the IDNR rules are going to take precedence over the CCW law, then it will pretty much void the whole thing. They are way more restrictive on just the case for the firearm requirement than the general law. And to answer the question about hunting in other states during archery while carrying a concealed firearm, the answer is "yes". Their CCW laws take precedence over a regulation. |
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IDNR rule we are talking about is while engaged in hunting. So all states allow carry of a handgun while bow hunting? Actually the casing law that is IDNR does not apply while hunting. A law enforcement officer can use it at any time at his discretion. As far as EVERY state allowing a handgun while bowhunting, I cannot answer. However for Arkansas, the answer is yes |
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You're right...you can transport unloaded and enclosed in a case. Quoted:
I thought for public trans you could have an unloaded weapon in your backback or briefcase? Correct me if I'm wrong You're right...you can transport unloaded and enclosed in a case. This is where there is going to be a problem. How does one unload before boarding public transportation and reload when they get off the bus or train? I'm willing to bet there will be lots of calls of "man with a gun" and any number of AD's. |
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This is where there is going to be a problem. How does one unload before boarding public transportation and reload when they get off the bus or train? I'm willing to bet there will be lots of calls of "man with a gun" and any number of AD's. Quoted:
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I thought for public trans you could have an unloaded weapon in your backback or briefcase? Correct me if I'm wrong You're right...you can transport unloaded and enclosed in a case. This is where there is going to be a problem. How does one unload before boarding public transportation and reload when they get off the bus or train? I'm willing to bet there will be lots of calls of "man with a gun" and any number of AD's. Exactly. Loading/unloading and unholster/holster are where things go wrong. Add the screeching paranoids who panic if they see a gun and it's going to be a rough first few years. |
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under the umbrella of "gov building" ? Quoted:
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We have to put up the no ccs signs at the Fire Dept. Apparently we were supposed to put them up a few months ago. Does not apply to me since it is part of my job as a Arson Investigator. under the umbrella of "gov building" ? Yes |
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When was the last time you were stopped by a Conservation agent while you were in the woods ????? And then when was the last time you were frisked by said conservation agent Guess you don't Duck hunt much. You do and can be stopped here they will make you empty everything. Check you for lead shells. Shove up a orange thing in your mag tube, to make sure it's plugged. They have been known to watch a group of hunters with spotting scopes. Counting the ducks shot and in what order. They come equipped with a thermometer, to shove up the Ducks ass to see when each one was killed. And in what order. Wardens up here have also been known to lay out all night in sleeping bags for a sting operation. Trust me they aren't afraid of the dark, and are armed. I doubt very much you will be able to CCW while Bow Hunting. |