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12/13/2008 4:18:51 AM EDT
Hello!

I applied for my CCW and it has been two weeks and have heard nothing! the sheriff said i would only take a day. I am worried that i they are going to deny me.

I have had a felony in the past 10yrs ago but has been exponged since then. I have been able to buy guns and as far as i know I will have no problem getting the licence. Right?

ANyone else have experience with this?
12/13/2008 7:28:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Dude! I pretty sure they are going to trun you down.  :( If I remember right the law said NO fellonies at anytime expunged or not..  You may want to call the attorney general and ask the question.

sorry to be the bummer

This is from the AG office handbook on ccw

The law states that you must not be under indictment, charged or
convicted of a felony, a felony that involves the trafficking in drugs or
similarly charged with a misdemeanor offense of violence or negligent
assault. You may not obtain your license if you have been charged with
falsification of a concealed handgun license
12/13/2008 8:28:26 AM EDT
[#2]
Under the new bill if your felony has been expunged they can NOT use that as a disqualifier for your license. If everything else is okay you should be good to go.
12/13/2008 9:16:57 AM EDT
[#3]
The background check will usually take longer than a day and each county varies in their processing time, then the Sheriff has to sign each permit.

There is a time limit built into the law too, regarding the wait...45 days.

12/13/2008 9:21:43 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Under the new bill if your felony has been expunged they can NOT use that as a disqualifier for your license. If everything else is okay you should be good to go.



I just love the feds I pulled the info right off the AG web sight and it is wrong!

Gotta Love em
12/13/2008 10:32:51 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Under the new bill if your felony has been expunged they can NOT use that as a disqualifier for your license. If everything else is okay you should be good to go.



I just love the feds I pulled the info right off the AG web sight and it is wrong!

Gotta Love em


It states on the CHL application with each question "Except for a conviction or guilty plea the records of which a court has ordered sealed or expunged".

If the record was sealed (Expunged) the Sheriff canNOT disqualify you.

12/13/2008 10:51:05 AM EDT
[#6]
Also, if you have moved recently between counties, or between states in the past, it will take longer while the request information from the other jurisdictions.

With your felony/expunge in the past, it might take longer.  They may want to spend some extra moments to verify the issue.

I wouldn't sweat until you hear something from the Sheriff
12/13/2008 1:26:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
The background check will usually take longer than a day and each county varies in their processing time, then the Sheriff has to sign each permit.

There is a time limit built into the law too, regarding the wait...45 days.



The problem is the 45 day time limit doesnt have any teeth.  If they are late or take longer there is nothing you can do about it with out it costing you $$$$

If you havent check this out yet go to this website and read up.  OFCC
12/14/2008 6:27:15 AM EDT
[#8]
The 45 day limit has no penalty if exceeded.  But you're not even close at present.

I'm curious if you listed the expunged convictions even though they're specifically excluded.

–– Chuck
12/14/2008 7:34:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Just out of curiosity what county did you apply in?

12/14/2008 7:44:28 AM EDT
[#10]
Sherrif said it took 45 days to get my background check, that was in November. Licking County
12/14/2008 10:25:58 AM EDT
[#11]
it does not take 45 days to get a background check.
12/15/2008 2:03:07 AM EDT
[#12]
I applied in Sandusky County and did not list  my previous conviction.  SInce then i have only had a few speeding tickets.
12/15/2008 3:17:38 AM EDT
[#13]
They probably don't like the fact that the previous conviction is there and they may delay the acceptance up to the 45 days because of it. If it does go beyond the 45 days contact OFCC, they love bringing charges against the sheriffs to make them do their job. Ohio is a shall issue state and they are legally required to accept/ or deny (stating why in writing) within the 45 day period.
12/15/2008 3:30:52 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
They probably don't like the fact that the previous conviction is there and they may delay the acceptance up to the 45 days because of it. If it does go beyond the 45 days contact OFCC, they love bringing charges against the sheriffs to make them do their job. Ohio is a shall issue state and they are legally required to accept/ or deny (stating why in writing) within the 45 day period.



There is nothing OFCC can do about it!  There are no penalties for anyone if they go past 45 days. You can get a writ of mandamus, but it will cost you about $250.00 to file.  Read This thread - here is a guy who waited 89 days to receive his renewal.
12/15/2008 4:13:27 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I applied in Sandusky County and did not list  my previous conviction.  SInce then i have only had a few speeding tickets.



I think it's just taking a little longer because the Sheriff wants to look at your sealed record which he has the right to do, BUT he can NOT disqualify you because of a sealed record.

PLEASE keep us informed of the outcome of it.



12/15/2008 5:59:30 AM EDT
[#16]
The sheriff may also feel the need to consult with the County's legal counsel. Most Sheriff's are not as well read on the law as we are and they might not be sure what to do with an expunged record. Counsel will research it and let the Sheriff know he needs to approve you (pending everything else turns out OK during the background check).

As much as it sucks, you need to wait the 45 days before contacting them. In all likelyhood, the Sheriff will be calling you before 45 days to inform you of your approval.
12/15/2008 4:30:28 PM EDT
[#17]
In this case, I would be verry paitent with the LE here. Kind of forget about it till they call you to tell you Yes, and set up a time to pick it up. Or No, and you'll need to do something else to get it threw.

Good luck sir.
12/15/2008 5:12:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Personal story from different counties.

I'm in Miami, took my class here and submitted my app 2 weeks later. I'm squeaky clean.

Four of us in the class I know with 3 of us being coworkers.

11/12/08 the first submits app in Darke Co.
11/13/08 2nd (coworker)submits in Miami.
11/13/08 first get's his back in Darke.
11/17/08 I submit mine in Miami.
11/24/08 other (3rd)coworker submits his in Darke.


We are all still waiting............

I know all of us have no record at all. So who the hell knows how long it takes.

I know Miami is slow compared to some others, but with one getting it in one day and the other waiting I don't have a clue to the difference.
12/16/2008 1:50:58 AM EDT
[#19]
Very strange!   Thanks for all the answers!!!!!!!!!! and I will keep everyone posted when i hear something!!!!!
12/17/2008 10:01:55 AM EDT
[#20]
Franklin County took no less than 30 hours to call me back approved
12/17/2008 6:36:01 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Franklin County took no less than 30 hours to call me back approved


But do you have any priors?

12/19/2008 12:59:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Franklin County the first time it only took 1 day the renewal was less than 3 hours,



12/29/2008 7:30:50 AM EDT
[#23]
day 37 STILL NOT HEARD ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
12/29/2008 8:06:14 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
day 37 STILL NOT HEARD ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!


Your still within the 45 day limit.... But let me be the first to say that your county "SUCKS".

12/29/2008 9:44:46 AM EDT
[#25]
You've waited this long. So whats another 8 days.

I agree it seems a little drawn out.
12/29/2008 9:45:26 AM EDT
[#26]
I am still waiting just wanted to give an update...

Waiting sucks!
1/4/2009 4:10:21 PM EDT
[#27]
Any news yet?
1/4/2009 7:39:52 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
They probably don't like the fact that the previous conviction is there and they may delay the acceptance up to the 45 days because of it. If it does go beyond the 45 days contact OFCC, they love bringing charges against the sheriffs to make them do their job. Ohio is a shall issue state and they are legally required to accept/ or deny (stating why in writing) within the 45 day period.



There is nothing OFCC can do about it!  There are no penalties for anyone if they go past 45 days. You can get a writ of mandamus, but it will cost you about $250.00 to file.  Read This thread - here is a guy who waited 89 days to receive his renewal.


Don't bother with OFCC, they don't have any influence anymore.  While they were once a great organization, they can't even get a meeting with the legislature anymore.  How do I know...I'm an elected official myself. (County level)
1/5/2009 7:01:35 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Franklin County the first time it only took 1 day the renewal was less than 3 hours,





It is rumored that Franklin Co. does nothing more than check your local records within the county and then approve. I had a nice long chat with the girl in the adjacent county where I got my CHL and she showed me where it literally takes longer to get a full check run than what Franklin Co. was issuing licenses in.
1/5/2009 9:12:00 AM EDT
[#30]
Just did my renewal in 7 days....Hancock County... sorry to hear you are having so much trouble
1/5/2009 11:03:47 AM EDT
[#31]
It took mine 43 days to come back.

Of course, I applied during the "busy" renewal season and they were slammed. They also had one deputy doing the same job two were doing the year before.

They were friendly and professional, it just took a while.
1/5/2009 11:23:21 AM EDT
[#32]
Depending on what County you are in, dont forget maybe the Sheriff is on his way out and a new Sheriff will be starting in a couple of weeks, might be the reason for the delay.
1/6/2009 1:33:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Doe's your Sheriff's office have a number that you can call after x-amount of days?
The county that I reside in says that we can call and check after 21 days.
It's been 28 days since your first post and you stated that you applied two weeks before that, that puts you within the 45 day limit by a day or two either way.
1/9/2009 7:49:57 AM EDT
[#34]
Just Picked It up Today!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have a link to where i can find the updated laws. Still finding the sites saying i cannot conceal carry in a vehicle.


Thanks to all!
1/9/2009 9:39:08 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Just Picked It up Today!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have a link to where i can find the updated laws. Still finding the sites saying i cannot conceal carry in a vehicle.


Thanks to all!



That's good news.... Welcome to the concealed carry world!

Heres your link: Ohio's Concealed Carry Laws

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