Posted: 11/30/2011 3:43:11 AM EDT
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I or some of us feel that we need to put together an idiots guide and flyer together for people who make enquiries of me regarding CSR. Currently we have nothing and I generally just add them to the mailing list (which is about 200 people now) I'm looking for ideas. Beardie has been working on some CoF explanations but I need to get something together with explanations of butt duties and responsibilities, targetry and procedures, scoring and appeals. Also needed will be similar for the firing point , range commands, procedures, descriptions and definitions. What the a average day entails, equipment, rule definitions, kit, must haves, match descriptions etc etc. I'm pretty out of ideas and would welcome any assistance as well as decent photo's to include. We also have a page on the NRA website that we don't utilize and could do with moving forward on this Help please
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sounds like a basic course. Maybe, just maybe, you could issue competition licences (whatever they are) afterwards??????? Yawn I'm looking for some help here as I can't do it singlehanded ly. I'll leave all the basic nonsense to you and your band of one trick ponies |
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OK then CSR for dummies.
1.) Buy a rifle in a relatively cheap to feed calibre (e.g. 223 or 308, but other flavours will do) that can take at least a 10 round detachable magazine 1.a) If you don't like much competition get a SMLE or a No4 2.) Put a scope on it - exact details not important coz you're starting out/learning the ropes 2.a) If you are shooting a wooden rifle in wooden rifle class, scope not allowed 2.b) If you want to shoot against Old Bob and maybe one other person, don't fit a scope and use open sights - this is also an option if you can't afford a scope until you get your next pocket money instalment 3.) Look at the NRA (or if you live up in the cold, cold north, Diggle) website and find out when a match is being shot. If you haven't got a computer then you are a tosser. Get yourself down the library and log on somewhere between the old people and claimants 4.) Turn up at Bisley or Diggle (delete as appropriate). 4.a.) Remember to bring your rifle 4.b.) Remember to bring your ammunition - enough to shoot the matches plus 10 or 20 spares 4.c.) Remember to bring your safety cert card - if you shoot fullbore and are a member of a club you should already have one of these. You don't need a speshul one for CSR 4.d.) Remember to bring a breech flag or leave your gun in the bag when not in use. 5. Dress should be suitable for the very worst that the UK weather can throw at you - especially in Diggle coz it's up north where the men are men and the sheep are nervous, 6.) Bring some food, coffee, water etc for the lunchtime picnic 7.) Generally be nice, do as you are told and jog along with the other idiots who have turned up to shoot - remember, they are all experts - at something 8.) Make sure you have lots of interesting stories tell. These of course can be lies. 9.) Be prepared to be severely beaten if you do anything dangerous with your rifle. 10.) This is the most important rule. If you don't know what to do at any stage please ask. Someone will help you. The above list is a first draft. Please feel free to fine tune... |
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OK then CSR for dummies. 1.) Buy a rifle in a relatively cheap to feed calibre (e.g. 223 or 308, but other flavours will do) that can take at least a 10 round detachable magazine 1.a) If you don't like much competition get a SMLE or a No4 2.) Put a scope on it - exact details not important coz you're starting out/learning the ropes 2.a) If you are shooting a wooden rifle in wooden rifle class, scope not allowed 2.b) If you want to shoot against Old Bob and maybe one other person, don't fit a scope and use open sights - this is also an option if you can't afford a scope until you get your next pocket money instalment 3.) Look at the NRA (or if you live up in the cold, cold north, Diggle) website and find out when a match is being shot. If you haven't got a computer then you are a tosser. Get yourself down the library and log on somewhere between the old people and claimants 4.) Turn up at Bisley or Diggle (delete as appropriate). 4.a.) Remember to bring your rifle 4.b.) Remember to bring your ammunition - enough to shoot the matches plus 10 or 20 spares 4.c.) Remember to bring your safety cert card - if you shoot fullbore and are a member of a club you should already have one of these. You don't need a speshul one for CSR 4.d.) Remember to bring a breech flag or leave your gun in the bag when not in use. 5. Dress should be suitable for the very worst that the UK weather can throw at you - especially in Diggle coz it's up north where the men are men and the sheep are nervous, 6.) Bring some food, coffee, water etc for the lunchtime picnic 7.) Generally be nice, do as you are told and jog along with the other idiots who have turned up to shoot - remember, they are all experts - at something 8.) Make sure you have lots of interesting stories tell. These of course can be lies. 9.) Be prepared to be severely beaten if you do anything dangerous with your rifle. 10.) This is the most important rule. If you don't know what to do at any stage please ask. Someone will help you. The above list is a first draft. Please feel free to fine tune... Good start there |
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Didn't Martin Camp write an article or two for the defunct Target Sports magazine for CSR a few years ago? Is this available as a starter for ten ? I don't have access to any of that, suppose I could email him I'll have a look in my magazine archive tonight to see if I still have them. |
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Keep it simple:
Targetry will be small, hard to see and generally anything other than a black circle on a white background: so unless you're particularly dedicated or masochistic you'll want a scope Pace of fire will be brisk, much more than one round a minute, a ten round mag is advisable Positions will include that which isn't prone and there may be some running involved Butt marking will be required: you don't have to pay some clueless scrote, besides which you experience the camaraderie of your fellow competitors |
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Didn't Martin Camp write an article or two for the defunct Target Sports magazine for CSR a few years ago? Is this available as a starter for ten ? I don't have access to any of that, suppose I could email him I'll have a look in my magazine archive tonight to see if I still have them. Me too. |
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You could also mention
x) Generally, each detail will be split into two groups. Everyone will be paired up on a lane of the range. When your oppo is shooting you are on hand to keep an eye in case of illness, injury etc. When you are shooting, they will do the same for you. x) All of the stages of the matches are referred to as "practices", this does not mean you get more than one go. x) You will be firing at miltary type targets that may look like an angry person (or persons) armed with a rifle or alternatively how an angry person(s) with a rifle might look if you had taken a large quantity of illegal drugs x) Some "practices" allow you to have two sighting shots before the scoring starts. These will be marked with orange scoring patches by the other shooting detail who are in the butts. It helps if you pay attention at this point. x) There is no beeper or shot timer to start the practice. The targets are timed exposures. After ensuring everyone is ready, each "practice" will start with a shout of "Watch out, watch out" (you should not be concerned that you are about to be hit in the head with a cricket ball/frisbee). After a short pause, the targets will appear and this will signal you to move to the shooting point and adopt the required shooting position required (if necessary) and engage the targets. x) After the period stated in the COF, the target will be lowered. If you have not fired all of the rounds, then you'll know to be faster next time. x) The target is then scored by the other detail in the butts. Ten, wash = good. Wash, wash = not so good. x) The target will then be presented with scoring patches to show hits and scores will be called out. Shouting and air punching is frowned upon. x) Take time to talk to fellow shooters between practices. When meeting new people, try not to be too opinionated. Try to be cheerful, after all, unless you are in charge of quality control in the playboy mansion, it's probably better than being at work. x) Think up excuses for a poor showing before you get to the ground. Copying other people's is not acceptable behaviour. |
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Very verbose for our needs but cut it down and it'll be just about right. Don't want to give the newbies information overload. John, Can we use the info and pics without any problems or would we have to reword it all and redo the images? And what's with military publications and intentionally blank pages? They never get used for updates as a new version is undoubtedly issued. |
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Civvy pictures might be more appropriate. Yes But with the Walt resurrection thread we'll all be looking like that, or more like the new soldier of the future with our MTP. We can get rid of the pistol bit as well, because that ain't ever gonna happen
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Civvy pictures might be more appropriate. Yes But with the Walt resurrection thread we'll all be looking like that, or more like the new soldier of the future with our MTP. We can get rid of the pistol bit as well, because that ain't ever gonna happen ![]() I actually have some of my own ideas that I'd like to get down on paper to see if I'm going in the rigt direction I don't want it to be too overbearing....or verbose |
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Civvy pictures might be more appropriate. Yes But with the Walt resurrection thread we'll all be looking like that, or more like the new soldier of the future with our MTP. We can get rid of the pistol bit as well, because that ain't ever gonna happen ![]() I actually have some of my own ideas that I'd like to get down on paper to see if I'm going in the rigt direction I don't want it to be too overbearing....or verbose Crack on then. |
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Would any of my 69 video's mostly CSR ones help explain what we do? (Well you do as I never get to shoot anymore) |
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