Posted: 1/4/2011 5:47:33 AM EDT
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OK, as poll reads. Basically post though: 1) Play or Watch: Would you compete and would anyone not posting here compete with you 2) Easier and more fun v. Competition oriented: Would you prefer there to be two divisions: scoped and iron sight, or just have a 100/200 yard iron sight comp and a 300/500 yard scope comp? (If you have other ideas: please share! But for simplicity sake, in addition to sharing, please designate which of the above two you also prefer) 3) Quick v. Complicated: Keep this quick and simple (only a few divisions, non-complicated and aim to do it all in an hour or less) or go for more (more divisions to encourage broad participation, etc, possibly lasting a few hours tops) 4) Entry Fees: Make this free to enter but with shitty prizes/targets or have a VERY minimal fee to enter ($3-$5) that goes 100% to target and prize costs (shooting soda cans, clay pigeons, etc) (if too much is collected, then the excess could either go to the winner or just refunded to people)? 5) Prize disbursement: Give most of the prizes/swag to the winner or top three OR disperse whatever we come up with more evenly and just give some kind of garish plaque to the overall winner which then rotates from winner to winner after each Roasted/Frozen Nuts Shoot? |
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I would shoot. I would try the competiton too, im not great but I would still try. I would pay a small fee $10-15 to shoot but not to enter and watch if that is all i wanted to do. I say the fees go to targets and food.
$10 gets you in to shoot targets $15 gets you targets a brat/chips/coke. |
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Quoted: I want to make the trophy. I guarentee the people that said it is going to be lame are all the super tactical super training guys. Uhh, let me be clear: Neither myself or the other Board Members are responsible for the inevitable hospitalization that will come out of this.
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I want to make the trophy. I guarentee the people that said it is going to be lame are all the super tactical super training guys. Uhh, let me be clear: Neither myself or the other Board Members are responsible for the inevitable hospitalization that will come out of this. board members? |
| I think this would be a lot of fun. For the prizes we could have everyone get a raffle ticket, but you can't buy more so someone can't load a bucket with their tickets so they win. I also think we should have a jounior competition so they can have a chance at winning too. I also think the money should towards food and swag. Too bad I can't go to the frozen nut shoot. :( |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I want to make the trophy. I guarentee the people that said it is going to be lame are all the super tactical super training guys. Uhh, let me be clear: Neither myself or the other Board Members are responsible for the inevitable hospitalization that will come out of this. board members? In truth it was easier than remembering "Assistant Director of Strategic Alliances and Event Planning (A.D.S.A.E.P.)"
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I want to make the trophy. I guarentee the people that said it is going to be lame are all the super tactical super training guys. Uhh, let me be clear: Neither myself or the other Board Members are responsible for the inevitable hospitalization that will come out of this. board members? Bored members? I'd imagine we wouldn't have a problem getting the trophy back if we tell the non-returning offender to look inside (to find a bloody chunk of your finger). |
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Agreed on some minor $ to cover basics –– and the option to get food in that program. We were close, but not quite, in pulling that off last time. Which basically would have been me buying it.
 Make a whole day of it and not have to pack up/come back/etc. that went on. I am crossing my fingers with enough advanced planning we might have a Griffin Armament "demo" station. <hint hint></hint>  You know, try it before you buy it with factory rep on hand.Vortex optics as well... and I have some other ideas. Having a decent estimate on count and "formally established" (even if casual and fun) outline of activities will help with contributions from the industry. All I know is I'm not purchasing a perfectly good container of coffee in the eleventh hour and dumping it out just to have a raffle bucket two years in a row. I think a key first decision is going to be narrowing down options for where to have it and what those places give us for options of what to do. Also that lingering question (at least for me) of where this becomes "formal" such that it is "formal". Meaning, someone gets sued or what not. "But I just brought the prizes damn it"  I vaguely recall that there is an option to "rent out" all of the Shiocton park for a fee I forget... but the kicker was it required some sort of insurance or another. So we would have to have an insuring sponsor. It would be a cool thing to do though. By the way, the bored board meeting(s) involve adult beverages at an adult establishment. |
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Agreed on some minor $ to cover basics –– and the option to get food in that program. We were close, but not quite, in pulling that off last time. Which basically would have been me buying it.
Make a whole day of it and not have to pack up/come back/etc. that went on. I am crossing my fingers with enough advanced planning we might have a Griffin Armament "demo" station. <hint hint></hint> You know, try it before you buy it with factory rep on hand.
Vortex optics as well... and I have some other ideas. I think a key first decision is going to be narrowing down options for where to have it and what those places give us for options of what to do. Also that lingering question (at least for me) of where this becomes "formal" such that it is "formal". Meaning, someone gets sued or what not. "But I just brought the prizes damn it"
I vaguely recall that there is an option to "rent out" all of the Shiocton park for a fee I forget... but the kicker was it required some sort of insurance or another. So we would have to have an insuring sponsor. It would be a cool thing to do though. By the way, the bored board meeting(s) involve adult beverages at an adult establishment. HOOTERS? |
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....I vaguely recall that there is an option to "rent out" all of the Shiocton park for a fee I forget... but the kicker was it required some sort of insurance or another. So we would have to have an insuring sponsor. It would be a cool thing to do though. $300 for the weekend and ?$150? for the day.... |
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I've never attended one of these, because previous events have sounded like they consist of bump-firing ammo downrange...expensive, not much fun, and detrimental to training. If there's actual organization to it, and a shooting competition, I might be interested.
In other words, tag. |
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I've never attended one of these, because previous events have sounded like they consist of bump-firing ammo downrange...expensive, not much fun, and detrimental to training. If there's actual organization to it, and a shooting competition, I might be interested. In other words, tag. hmmm |
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Quoted: I've never attended one of these, because previous events have sounded like they consist of bump-firing ammo downrange...expensive, not much fun, and detrimental to training. If there's actual organization to it, and a shooting competition, I might be interested. In other words, tag. Sounds like shooting at this gravel pit I know of.... |
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I've never attended one of these, because previous events have sounded like they consist of bump-firing ammo downrange...expensive, not much fun, and detrimental to training. If there's actual organization to it, and a shooting competition, I might be interested. In other words, tag. Ditto |
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If Glenn and None, Tommyt and FMD and Bulletcatcher and MrPX go...I'll be there...
So, check no for Harv. ETA: If all you need is moral support, I can tell you you are great a few times while you are there.  Did he tell you about that class where we all went prone and he shot it standing up; with only an 11.5" barrel? Harv is freaking awesome!
I just want to know if you're planning to do this in the cold. I'm a warm weather warrior. 
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If Glenn and None, Tommyt and FMD and Bulletcatcher and MrPX go...I'll be there...
So, check no for Harv. ETA: If all you need is moral support, I can tell you you are great a few times while you are there. Don't be jealous... I'll include you too.... 
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If Glenn and None, Tommyt and FMD and Bulletcatcher and MrPX go...I'll be there... I've had some ideas kicking around for a while. I don't know how fun it would be tho, I have a slightly twisted idea of what "fun" (and competition) is. Any COF would definitely involve more than just testing our shooting skills, lots of running, obstacles, a little low crawling through mud (<-for you Harv), mindset challenges and problem solving, "random hazards", and FIRE! Gotta have fire. On a side note, I made a deck of cards with vaarious shooting and other skills. When looking for a friendly group challenge, without argueing or biasing the comp to our strengths, we draw cards and build a shoot from there. Sometimes just the ref draws the cards and we go through 'blind'. C361 Stan |
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"Random Hazards"
I've got another deck of cards.... they have various ill (and sometimes fun/ny) "penalties" or tasks on them. Build a fire, blindfolds one or two eyes-( not for shooting events lol), tieing arms, greasy fingers, tie your shoelaces together... I've got lots and lots devious shit saved up. They either get 'drawn' as part of a 'scenario', or as a penance, the penalty is push-ups, but at the Driftless, you have to pay, and pay, and pay.... for your mistakes. C361 Stan |
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If Glenn and None, Tommyt and FMD and Bulletcatcher and MrPX go...I'll be there... I've had some ideas kicking around for a while. I don't know how fun it would be tho, I have a slightly twisted idea of what "fun" (and competition) is. Any COF would definitely involve more than just testing our shooting skills, lots of running, obstacles, a little low crawling through mud (<-for you Harv), mindset challenges and problem solving, "random hazards", and FIRE! Gotta have fire. On a side note, I made a deck of cards with vaarious shooting and other skills. When looking for a friendly group challenge, without argueing or biasing the comp to our strengths, we draw cards and build a shoot from there. Sometimes just the ref draws the cards and we go through 'blind'. C361 Stan No offense against you pal but your idea of friendly competition and what I gather these guys are looking to do just might be worlds apart. From what I am reading they want to have a friendly competition that might take maybe a half hour then go back to hanging out then maybe another competition then hanging etc, etc, etc. I have seen some of your ideas for competition, while fun they tend to get a little physical for what I am guessing these guys are looking for. Of course I might just be way off on this as well. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If Glenn and None, Tommyt and FMD and Bulletcatcher and MrPX go...I'll be there... I've had some ideas kicking around for a while. I don't know how fun it would be tho, I have a slightly twisted idea of what "fun" (and competition) is. Any COF would definitely involve more than just testing our shooting skills, lots of running, obstacles, a little low crawling through mud (<-for you Harv), mindset challenges and problem solving, "random hazards", and FIRE! Gotta have fire. On a side note, I made a deck of cards with vaarious shooting and other skills. When looking for a friendly group challenge, without argueing or biasing the comp to our strengths, we draw cards and build a shoot from there. Sometimes just the ref draws the cards and we go through 'blind'. C361 Stan No offense against you pal but your idea of friendly competition and what I gather these guys are looking to do just might be worlds apart. From what I am reading they want to have a friendly competition that might take maybe a half hour then go back to hanging out then maybe another competition then hanging etc, etc, etc. I have seen some of your ideas for competition, while fun they tend to get a little physical for what I am guessing these guys are looking for. Of course I might just be way off on this as well. Push ups? Did I see push ups? I guess they have their place but only if it's hot out.  (The only push up you'll see me doing)
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If Glenn and None, Tommyt and FMD and Bulletcatcher and MrPX go...I'll be there... I've had some ideas kicking around for a while. I don't know how fun it would be tho, I have a slightly twisted idea of what "fun" (and competition) is. Any COF would definitely involve more than just testing our shooting skills, lots of running, obstacles, a little low crawling through mud (<-for you Harv), mindset challenges and problem solving, "random hazards", and FIRE! Gotta have fire. On a side note, I made a deck of cards with vaarious shooting and other skills. When looking for a friendly group challenge, without argueing or biasing the comp to our strengths, we draw cards and build a shoot from there. Sometimes just the ref draws the cards and we go through 'blind'. C361 Stan No offense against you pal but your idea of friendly competition and what I gather these guys are looking to do just might be worlds apart. From what I am reading they want to have a friendly competition that might take maybe a half hour then go back to hanging out then maybe another competition then hanging etc, etc, etc. I have seen some of your ideas for competition, while fun they tend to get a little physical for what I am guessing these guys are looking for. Of course I might just be way off on this as well. Push ups? Did I see push ups? I guess they have their place but only if it's hot out. http://i51.tinypic.com/6jm0sm.jpg (The only push up you'll see me doing) Probably the only push ups I can do right now.
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No offense against you pal but your idea of friendly competition and what I gather these guys are looking to do just might be worlds apart. From what I am reading they want to have a friendly competition that might take maybe a half hour then go back to hanging out then maybe another competition then hanging etc, etc, etc. I have seen some of your ideas for competition, while fun they tend to get a little physical for what I am guessing these guys are looking for. Of course I might just be way off on this as well. Physical challenges can be dialed in to the crowd, I like the idea of competition with an 'agenda' (learn something about yourself???). I think what we are talking about is setting up some shooting games at a fun shoot. I can't see any reason why you couldn't organize a shoot with an invite for people to bring 'games' to set up, shooting for fun, or dollarss (i like that-$$- and shooting for guns). If it's good fun people will try it... Set up a spinner target(or two, one for shotties, one for rimfire), let people pay a buck (or a dime for the kids) to see how long they can keep it spinning, at the end of the day the winner takes the pot. Set up a 2X4 with holes drilled for ohio blue tips, set some matches in it (head up) and try to light matches at 10 yds with the .22. shoot for dollars or quarters... I can think of more stuff like that all day. C361 Stan |
| If I'm not stuck at the fire station, and my wife will sign my hall pass, I'd be down for any ARFCOM shoot that I could make it too. I did an informal multi-gun type thing in my back yard with a few guys, and we had a blast. I can only imagine this would be that much fun, and more! |
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At one of the Tactical Response Alumni Weekends we had some open time at the range. There was a dueling tree set up and we had a lot of fun running it.
I imagine if a person had some shwag in the form of magazines and such, setting up a station with the "devil's Drill" would be alot of fun, especially if you counted hits... That would be some jolly good fun video to watch. I have a post in the competition forum about biathlon, bikeathlon, it's nice to have a course in my back yard. I have it (the skiing part) dialed in to rank amatuer due to my busted knees, but can easily ramp it up to bushwhacker level. I've added snowshoes to the repertoire also... C361 Stan |
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I've never been a big fan of just blasting for the sake of making noise...Ammo is to expensive for me to shoot at stuffed animals and lawnmowers... That's just me...Not ripping on the guys who like to shoot stuffed animals and such... I realize that shooting is different things to different folks and it's all good, but that type of activity has never appealed to me, I get nothing out of it...
I think a organized shoot that has to actually make the shooter employ some skill can and is fun. The drills can be simple, good examples are Devils drill (Rifle) Modified Navy Qualification (Rifle) F.A.S.T. Test (Pistol) These drills can be conducted with nothing more then a Timer and some simple Cardboard Targets with Zones drawn in with a Sharpie using a 3" x 5" index card and an 8" diameter paper plate They allow for quick rotation to get a lot of shooters thru so your not standing around. They encompass what I consider a good majority of the fundamentals There skills one should have to be able to operate and shoot a pistol and a carbine. There simple enough that shooters from all different skill levels can do them. If you can handle a firearm safely and follow the 4 rules, there's no reason anyone cannot do them and have some fun. They don't require a person to have the Physique of a SOCCOM operator. Can you stand and shoot?? can you kneel and shoot? can you lay on your belly and shoot? Just my take |
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Yeah Harv, I was gonna mention something like the Air Marshall qual.
I know Appleseed has thier own shoot, but there is an opportunity to set up an "unofficial qualifier/sampler". I bet that would give some folks the bug, and confidence, to show up to an Appleseed. A 3-gun person could setup a sample stage and demo/promo, maybe get some new people to show up at competitions. I don't mind blasting at lawnmowers or stuffed pandas, as long as a person uses their sites, it's all good to me. I did my share when ammo was cheap (along with sending training rounds downrange). C361 Stan |