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AR15.COM
8/15/2008 5:18:30 PM EDT
Is it legal to carry a collapsable baton in Illinois?
8/15/2008 7:31:58 PM EDT
[#1]
No,they are considered a concealed weapon.
Illinois doesn't want you beating some poor criminal who needs your wallet for more crack!
8/16/2008 3:15:00 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
No,they are considered a concealed weapon.
Illinois doesn't want you beating some poor criminal who needs your wallet for more crack!


 how right you are.....
8/16/2008 4:16:21 AM EDT
[#3]
Actually, they are considered a "bludgeon" under Illinois law, but you are right in that you would be charged with UUW (Unlawful Use of a Weapon) if you just carried it (and not used it)

mfm
8/16/2008 7:48:29 AM EDT
[#4]
How about in a vehicle?
8/16/2008 8:19:07 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
How about in a vehicle?


Maybe if it was fully cased and not readily accessible....

Just a guess
8/16/2008 10:20:06 AM EDT
[#6]
I carry one in my backpack when I go back and forth to class.  I walk to campus.

ASP, great unit - can be hard to collapse, but very stout.

ETA:  May be questionable on legality, but I will not be unarmed...especially now that I'm getting my CCW permit from Utah.   I don't whip it out and show people, and my Government teacher - and attornety - even told me (after he showed it to our class) that an attorney could argue it as a baton, not a club and dismiss the case with no prior convictions.  Sure it's a gamble, but as I said...I will not be completely unarmed.
8/17/2008 6:57:34 PM EDT
[#7]
I don't carry a "baton", a "baton" is an instrument used by criminals.

I carry an expandable pry bar, a tool, used by upstanding citizens.. [yes, I do have a "foot" that I can clip on the end and pry with...]

I have also seen a 1/2" breaker bar end welded to the end of a baton, making a "expandable breaker bar".  An electrician taught me that...
8/18/2008 7:26:12 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I don't carry a "baton", a "baton" is an instrument used by criminals.

I carry an expandable pry bar, a tool, used by upstanding citizens.. [yes, I do have a "foot" that I can clip on the end and pry with...]

I have also seen a 1/2" breaker bar end welded to the end of a baton, making a "expandable breaker bar".  An electrician taught me that...


My bad, let me rephrase what I posted above.  I carry an emergency key retrieval device.  Should I ever lock my keys in my car, I can then circumvent my window and locking device to retrieve my keys.

It works great for such a case - seen it on COPS many times.  Of course, on COPS, the keys were being held by criminals that locked themselves in their cars.

Bob
8/19/2008 3:30:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Might as well just carry a loaded gun. I believe the penalties are the same as carrying that billy club / blugeon.
8/19/2008 3:44:59 PM EDT
[#10]
Well, that's what I thought, another nanny state crapola law.
8/20/2008 8:30:59 AM EDT
[#11]
A friend of mine has one and asked a local LEO (Elgin) we know if it was legal, and was told it was fine.  Question is, if it's okay to carry a knife or multi-tool, what's the big deal, it doesnt have an edge or stabbing point.  I'd be more worried about a knife than a club/baton/baseball bat/pointed stick type of weapon.
8/20/2008 9:11:18 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
A friend of mine has one and asked a local LEO (Elgin) we know if it was legal, and was told it was fine.  Question is, if it's okay to carry a knife or multi-tool, what's the big deal, it doesnt have an edge or stabbing point.  I'd be more worried about a knife than a club/baton/baseball bat/pointed stick type of weapon.


Never take legal advice from a cop.
8/20/2008 1:19:30 PM EDT
[#13]
Thank God Illannoys is so safe.


(720 ILCS 5/24‑1) (from Ch. 38, par. 24‑1)
   Sec. 24‑1. Unlawful Use of Weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
       (1) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses or carries any bludgeon, black‑jack, slung‑shot, sand‑club, sand‑bag, metal knuckles, throwing star, or any knife, commonly referred to as a switchblade knife, which has a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle of the knife, or a ballistic knife, which is a device that propels a knifelike blade as a projectile by means of a coil spring, elastic material or compressed gas; or

       (2) Carries or possesses with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, a dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto, broken bottle or other piece of glass, stun gun or taser or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument of like character;  
8/20/2008 4:13:28 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Thank God Illannoys is so safe.


(720 ILCS 5/24‑1) (from Ch. 38, par. 24‑1)
   Sec. 24‑1. Unlawful Use of Weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
       (1) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses or carries any bludgeon, black‑jack, slung‑shot, sand‑club, sand‑bag, metal knuckles, throwing star, or any knife, commonly referred to as a switchblade knife, which has a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle of the knife, or a ballistic knife, which is a device that propels a knifelike blade as a projectile by means of a coil spring, elastic material or compressed gas; or

       (2) Carries or possesses with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, a dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto, broken bottle or other piece of glass, stun gun or taser or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument of like character;  


There it is. If you are going to carry that baton, might as well carry your gun loaded, a set of brass knuckls, and a switchblade.

8/21/2008 12:11:19 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I don't whip it out and show people...


Let's hope not.
8/21/2008 1:14:02 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't whip it out and show people...


Let's hope not.


[Sheriff Roy] 'Scuze me while I whip this out...[/Sheriff Roy]