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5/17/2014 11:11:39 AM EDT
Considering going to gun smith school when I ETS out of the Army.  What are the gun laws like in CO?  

My main concerns are:

Concealed carry
"high capacity mags"
Assault rifles
Suppressors

I'm also curious if anyone knows how popular the competitive shooting sports are out there?  I haven't had much time in the army to pursue them, but I really want to get into 3gun/long range/IDPA when I get out.  Thanks all.
5/17/2014 11:52:34 AM EDT
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Considering going to gun smith school when I ETS out of the Army.  What are the gun laws like in CO?  

My main concerns are:

Concealed carry
"high capacity mags"
Assault rifles
Suppressors

I'm also curious if anyone knows how popular the competitive shooting sports are out there?  I haven't had much time in the army to pursue them, but I really want to get into 3gun/long range/IDPA when I get out.  Thanks all.
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Concealed carry with a permit or while on private property.
High cap mags are gtg if you owned them prior to 7-1-13 (but really unenforceable anyway)
If by assault rifles you mean firearms such as AR15s, those are fine.
Any NFA items are gtv so long as you have the proper stamps, a CLEO signature or a trust/LLC

Should mention Colorado is a shall issue state and most counties will accept military service instead of a CCW course
5/18/2014 5:11:09 AM EDT
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What do you mean by "assault rifle?"
5/21/2014 10:54:32 AM EDT
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Kitakaze got most of your questions. The only things I can think to add are that you don't need a CFL to conceal a handgun on you when you're in your own car, home, or fixed place of business, and that CFLs aren't too terribly hard to get in most of the state. In theory, we've got a uniform shall-issue law statewide, and in practice a few of the sheriff's offices are either incompetent or creatively incompetent.

As far as competition, there's a fair bit around Denver. Colorado Rifle Club hosts a whole bunch of different competition disciplines. I don't think they insist on club membership for competition participants, but the membership isn't too expensive or difficult and it's a pretty nice facility.

There's also a competition scene centered on a club in Pueblo West, including 3-gun/Multigun, but I know very little about it beyond that it exists.

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Considering going to gun smith school when I ETS out of the Army.  What are the gun laws like in CO?  

My main concerns are:

Concealed carry
"high capacity mags"
Assault rifles
Suppressors

I'm also curious if anyone knows how popular the competitive shooting sports are out there?  I haven't had much time in the army to pursue them, but I really want to get into 3gun/long range/IDPA when I get out.  Thanks all.
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5/21/2014 8:38:34 PM EDT
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The only things I can think to add are that you don't need a CFL to conceal a handgun on you when you're in your own car, home, or fixed place of business, and that CFLs aren't too terribly hard to get in most of the state.
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From the cc class i took - you may have a gun concealed in your car but not on your person in your car without a permit. Keep it in the glovebox or under the seat or whatever but not in your pants.
5/21/2014 9:29:29 PM EDT
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From the cc class i took - you may have a gun concealed in your car but not on your person in your car without a permit. Keep it in the glovebox or under the seat or whatever but not in your pants.
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The only things I can think to add are that you don't need a CFL to conceal a handgun on you when you're in your own car, home, or fixed place of business, and that CFLs aren't too terribly hard to get in most of the state.


From the cc class i took - you may have a gun concealed in your car but not on your person in your car without a permit. Keep it in the glovebox or under the seat or whatever but not in your pants.

That's completely wrong. Your vehicle is considered an extension of your household and you do not need a permit to carry concealed on your person while at home or in your vehicle
5/22/2014 7:22:51 AM EDT
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It is wrong.

But it has nothing to do with your vehicle "being an extension of your household".  That is not true in any sense.  Basically never true. Really important to remove that phrase from your mind, it will get your screwed up.

There is a specific statute that states that you can carry a loaded handgun for personal protection in a vehicle - on or off person.
5/22/2014 8:45:20 AM EDT
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It is wrong.

But it has nothing to do with your vehicle "being an extension of your household".  That is not true in any sense.  Basically never true. Really important to remove that phrase from your mind, it will get your screwed up.

There is a specific statute that states that you can carry a loaded handgun for personal protection in a vehicle - on or off person.
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Just going off of training and experience plus the verbiage I've been taught the past 4 years
5/22/2014 9:17:38 AM EDT
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One question to add what is the rule about having a rifle with a loaded mag in your car but not one in the chamber?
 
5/22/2014 9:35:15 AM EDT
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That has to do with a CO fish and game or DNR reg/law, to prevent poaching. Rifle and shotguns no loaded chamber, pistol ok.
5/22/2014 9:57:26 AM EDT
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This, boys and girls, is what is known as "launching bottle rockets at hornets' nests."

But TheDave has the right answer. Except on an ATV, where for some reason the rifle/shotgun can't have a loaded magazine inserted, or at least not in 2002 when I was last actually trained on Title 33 crap.

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5/22/2014 11:04:58 AM EDT
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This, boys and girls, is what is known as "launching bottle rockets at hornets' nests."

But TheDave has the right answer. Except on an ATV, where for some reason the rifle/shotgun can't have a loaded magazine inserted, or at least not in 2002 when I was last actually trained on Title 33 crap.


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This, boys and girls, is what is known as "launching bottle rockets at hornets' nests."

But TheDave has the right answer. Except on an ATV, where for some reason the rifle/shotgun can't have a loaded magazine inserted, or at least not in 2002 when I was last actually trained on Title 33 crap.

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Yup. That law is still valid on an ATV. Stupid law but it's there
5/23/2014 9:07:31 AM EDT
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Yep, the ATV rules of long guns in a fully enclosed case (ie., no scabbards) and completely unloaded chamber and magazine are still in effect.  The Commission got real warm about people hunting from ATV's a decade and a half back.

While the "no round in a chamber for long guns" and "no rounds at all chamber or magazine for long guns on an ATV" are there for reasons of poaching, those are laws of general applicability.  Always apply.
5/23/2014 9:09:09 AM EDT
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Not sure where the phrase first was born but its a bad way to "learn" that vehicle exception.  Certainly a vehicle is not "an extension of your home" for Fourth Amendment purposes as an example.  
5/23/2014 9:37:36 AM EDT
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Just going off of training and experience plus the verbiage I've been taught the past 4 years
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It is wrong.

But it has nothing to do with your vehicle "being an extension of your household".  That is not true in any sense.  Basically never true. Really important to remove that phrase from your mind, it will get your screwed up.

There is a specific statute that states that you can carry a loaded handgun for personal protection in a vehicle - on or off person.

Just going off of training and experience plus the verbiage I've been taught the past 4 years


then your training, experience, and "verbiage" would be wrong

the statute that permits car carry is C.R.S. 18-12-105(2)(b)
5/23/2014 2:15:55 PM EDT
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then your training, experience, and "verbiage" would be wrong

the statute that permits car carry is C.R.S. 18-12-105(2)(b)
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It is wrong.

But it has nothing to do with your vehicle "being an extension of your household".  That is not true in any sense.  Basically never true. Really important to remove that phrase from your mind, it will get your screwed up.

There is a specific statute that states that you can carry a loaded handgun for personal protection in a vehicle - on or off person.

Just going off of training and experience plus the verbiage I've been taught the past 4 years


then your training, experience, and "verbiage" would be wrong

the statute that permits car carry is C.R.S. 18-12-105(2)(b)

I'm familiar with the statute. Like I said. Just basing it off of what I've learned and quite honestly what just about everyone in my field of work is trained on. Not trying to stir up anything