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11/24/2010 6:47:09 PM EDT
I just picked up a Bulgarian 74 kit that I'm going to build using a virgin barrel. The barrel isn't threaded but the FSB is which attaches to the brake. In my view this isn't a threaded barrel but does NY state view it as one?
11/24/2010 11:30:15 PM EDT
[#1]
I have wondered the same thing
11/25/2010 3:38:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Treading on thin ice.
Can you attach a Bulgie FH, Yes you can!!!
One would think that once it's pinned to the barrel,it becomes part of the barrel,
kind of like a fixed slant brake pinned is OK on a threaded barrel.

I always wondered about the acc. lug on the GB myself.
11/25/2010 5:30:43 AM EDT
[#3]
If the treads can't accept a flash hider then they are fine.

I am pretty sure their are bulgarian flash hiders out there for those threads, so no go.
11/25/2010 7:52:42 AM EDT
[#4]
.....
11/25/2010 9:10:09 AM EDT
[#5]
Its a Bulgarian muzzle break anyways not a flash hider...So it would be totally  legal if it was perm pinned...
11/25/2010 9:37:02 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Its a Bulgarian muzzle break anyways not a flash hider...So it would be totally  legal if it was perm pinned...


I don't want to pin it.
11/25/2010 10:27:21 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Its a Bulgarian muzzle break anyways not a flash hider...So it would be totally  legal if it was perm pinned...


I don't want to pin it.


Then don't pin it..but how know how shitty our gun laws are...you probably won't ever come across an leo asking you if its pinned or not..but don't ever get accused of owning an (assault weapon)....that will end up an expensive argument between you and the judge...
11/25/2010 10:38:04 AM EDT
[#8]
Flash hiders are available for Bulgarian FSBs
http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16963&cat=289&page=1

22. "Assault weapon" means (a)  a  semiautomatic  rifle  that  has  an
 ability  to  accept  a  detachable  magazine and has at least two of the
 following characteristics:
   (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
   (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action  of
 the weapon;
   (iii) a bayonet mount;
   (iv)  a  flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
 flash suppressor;


The FSB is not the barrel, so I think you have an argument (not legal advice) I don't think I'd want to be the test case.
11/25/2010 3:13:50 PM EDT
[#9]
The muzzle brake must be pinned and welded.  This was also true under the expired Federal AWB.  Also the lugs on the gas block and the FSB must be neutered.
11/29/2010 1:26:41 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


I just picked up a Bulgarian 74 kit that I'm going to build using a virgin barrel. The barrel isn't threaded but the FSB is which attaches to the brake. In my view this isn't a threaded barrel but does NY state view it as one?


I don't think it is, but on my '74 I had the brake welded on just to be on the safe side.



 
11/29/2010 1:27:32 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


Flash hiders are available for Bulgarian FSBs

http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16963&cat=289&page=1



22. "Assault weapon" means (a)  a  semiautomatic  rifle  that  has  an

 ability  to  accept  a  detachable  magazine and has at least two of the

 following characteristics:

   (i) a folding or telescoping stock;

   (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action  of

 the weapon;

   (iii) a bayonet mount;

   (iv)  a  flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a

 flash suppressor;




The FSB is not the barrel, so I think you have an argument (not legal advice) I don't think I'd want to be the test case.


The barrel is not threaded.  The gas block is threaded.



 
11/29/2010 2:40:51 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

The barrel is not threaded.  The gas block is threaded.
 


True enough. But I don't think a DA, judge, jury will care.
11/29/2010 3:15:11 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Flash hiders are available for Bulgarian FSBs
http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16963&cat=289&page=1

22. "Assault weapon" means (a)  a  semiautomatic  rifle  that  has  an
 ability  to  accept  a  detachable  magazine and has at least two of the
 following characteristics:
   (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
   (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action  of
 the weapon;
   (iii) a bayonet mount;
   (iv)  a  flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
 flash suppressor;


The FSB is not the barrel, so I think you have an argument (not legal advice) I don't think I'd want to be the test case.

The barrel is not threaded.  The gas block is threaded.
 


but again, do you want to be the test case?
11/30/2010 4:37:00 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:

Flash hiders are available for Bulgarian FSBs

http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16963&cat=289&page=1



22. "Assault weapon" means (a)  a  semiautomatic  rifle  that  has  an

 ability  to  accept  a  detachable  magazine and has at least two of the

 following characteristics:

   (i) a folding or telescoping stock;

   (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action  of

 the weapon;

   (iii) a bayonet mount;

   (iv)  a  flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a

 flash suppressor;




The FSB is not the barrel, so I think you have an argument (not legal advice) I don't think I'd want to be the test case.


The barrel is not threaded.  The gas block is threaded.

 




but again, do you want to be the test case?


Did you read my post immediately before the one you quoted?



 
11/30/2010 7:32:26 AM EDT
[#15]
I think his question is this:

The barrel is not threaded but the front sight is. Does that constitute a threaded barrel because technically the barrel is not threaded?
11/30/2010 1:45:49 PM EDT
[#16]
Isn't it the issue of being able to accept a device on the end of the barrel. I am no scholar on this matter but I am pretty sure having threads on the end of the barrel, threaded barrel or front site base that could be the problem, if it has threads to accept a device I am sure its a no go.

Just my .02

I here the argument of pinning stocks , blocked hi cap post ban mags pinned muzzle devices being questionable. I think its going to be at the discretion of what ever LEO that happens to see your weapon.

Remember all the stories here about legal preban, compliant weapons that have been questioned. Thankfully no one has fallen to this shitty law as of yet but as my Father told me years ago, Keep your mouth shut and have your shit on the down low( not his exact word but I choose to paraphrase)

I in no way agree or want to accept these Draconian laws but I choosing to live in this state by default accept them.Just to think that crossing an imaginary line or what is called a state line with what are considered illegal weapons, mags,ammo or whatever.
Is the difference of being guilty of a violent felony according to our bankrupt, corrupt state. Its ok though to spend our accumulated taxed monies for these foolish legislators to further violate our Constitutional rights.
rant off/
11/30/2010 10:38:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Well said! Anyone with any mechanical/technical knowledge can convert any weapon/low cap mag etc, into something "non-compliant" It would be up to the "commie cops and DA's to prosecute. However, who has more $ than the state?
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