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12/5/2004 10:43:05 PM EDT
I'm just looking where I can find any information about the Cook County Assualt Weapons ban and what it entails.  Thanks.
12/6/2004 1:59:00 AM EDT
[#1]
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=23&t=188949
12/7/2004 6:01:55 PM EDT
[#2]
I looked there and still nothing.  Does anyone have a direct link to the cook county AWB?  Thanks.
12/7/2004 6:26:09 PM EDT
[#3]
Cook county AWB?  
12/8/2004 11:55:42 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Cook county AWB?  



+1 Never heard of it.  I thought it was only for Shitcago.
12/9/2004 12:24:55 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I looked there and still nothing.  Does anyone have a direct link to the cook county AWB?  Thanks.



I tried to send you an IM, but I got a message that you are not accepting IMs.  

Give me an email address and I will email you the Cook County laws.
12/9/2004 3:13:02 PM EDT
[#6]
Could you send me the info as well. I should be accepting IMs
12/10/2004 12:12:56 PM EDT
[#7]
Hi Roadhawk:
Please e-mail me the Cook County laws. [email protected]

Thank you,
Regards,
FRIZ
12/10/2004 12:59:09 PM EDT
[#8]
There is a ban on certain assault style weapons in Coon County.
12/10/2004 2:15:23 PM EDT
[#9]
send that email to [email protected].  thanks man.  
12/12/2004 5:32:34 PM EDT
[#10]
CKMorley gave my the laws on PDFs but I'm out of town and they're at home. If you still need help ask again in a few days and I'll be home by then.
12/13/2004 4:29:12 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
There is a ban on certain assault style weapons in Coon County.



anyone know what certain assault style weapons?  I live in wheeling which is cook county, would I have problems buying an AR or AK?
12/13/2004 4:59:17 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
There is a ban on certain assault style weapons in Coon County.



anyone know what certain assault style weapons?  I live in wheeling which is cook county, would I have problems buying an AR or AK?



If you give me an email address, I will send them to you this evening.
12/13/2004 5:08:12 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
There is a ban on certain assault style weapons in Coon County.



anyone know what certain assault style weapons?  I live in wheeling which is cook county, would I have problems buying an AR or AK?



If you give me an email address, I will send them to you this evening.



Could you please e-mail me with the info? My address is [email protected]. Thanks,

Mike F
12/13/2004 7:37:24 AM EDT
[#14]
cruzr180,

Short answer-both are banned.

Long answer-nobody seems to know, or care, about the ban. This includes the po-po....


Larry
12/13/2004 10:31:57 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
cruzr180,
Short answer-both are banned.

Long answer-nobody seems to know, or care, about the ban. This includes the po-po....

Larry



Roger on that.
I bought an AK at a Cook County gunshop owned by  a cop and staffed mostly
by off duty cops. To top it off, an off duty County Sherrif officer carried the AK out to my Jeep for me because
I was loaded down with mags and a case of Wolf.


The ord. is just another of Illinois' feel-good paper tiger laws.

CKMorley
12/13/2004 2:06:23 PM EDT
[#16]
CK,

Sounds like you found a cool shop-wanna' share its whereabouts?


Larry
12/14/2004 6:35:50 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
CK,

Sounds like you found a cool shop-wanna' share its whereabouts?


Larry



Actually, most of the few shops left in Cook are owned or staffed by coppers.


CKMorley
12/14/2004 8:49:18 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
CK,

Sounds like you found a cool shop-wanna' share its whereabouts?


Larry



Sounds like Shore's?

I've never been in there.
12/14/2004 9:56:12 AM EDT
[#19]
So I'm confused as hell right now, is it ok to own an AR or not in cook county?
12/14/2004 11:26:14 AM EDT
[#20]

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So I'm confused as hell right now, is it ok to own an AR or not in cook county?



What kind of AR you got? The only AR that was banned by the Crook County AW ban was the specifically the Colt AR15.

If you have a Rock River, Bushmaster, Colt Sporter, ect, ect, you're ok.

12/14/2004 12:14:03 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
CK,

Sounds like you found a cool shop-wanna' share its whereabouts?


Larry



Sounds like Shore's?

I've never been in there.



Pelcher's, in Lansing. South Surburbs.

CKMorley

Also.... I was just re-reading the Ord. Funny how they mention every variation of the FAL, except for the STG58. I guess a DSA SA58 is "legal".
12/16/2004 2:23:22 PM EDT
[#22]
After reading the ordinances I don't think that we have much to worry about. From what I understand, the ordinances are only for areas where the Cook County Sherriff is the primary law enforcement entity (ie. no local police) OR in towns that do not have home rule ability to make their own laws.
12/21/2004 6:13:58 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
There is a ban on certain assault style weapons in Coon County.



anyone know what certain assault style weapons?  I live in wheeling which is cook county, would I have problems buying an AR or AK?



If you give me an email address, I will send them to you this evening.



Edited. Thanks again for sending the files.
12/22/2004 3:40:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Could you post these files here
12/24/2004 4:03:33 AM EDT
[#25]
Yes, I second that; please post them in the thread.
12/24/2004 9:21:06 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
After reading the ordinances I don't think that we have much to worry about. From what I understand, the ordinances are only for areas where the Cook County Sherriff is the primary law enforcement entity (ie. no local police) OR in towns that do not have home rule ability to make their own laws.


This is what we have been saying for awhile: only unincorporated Cook County.
12/24/2004 9:38:59 AM EDT
[#27]
City of Chicago Municipal Code:

Section 8-24-025 Assault weapons or ammunition- Sale Prohibited - Exceptions.
(a) No person shall sell, offer or display for sale, give, lend, transfer ownership of, acquire or possess any assault weapon or assault ammunition, as those terms are defined in Chapter 8-20 of this code. This section shall not apply to any officer, agent, or employee of this or any other municipality or state or of the United States, members of the armed forces of the United States, or the organized militia of this or any other state, and peace officers as defined in this code to the extent that any such person is otherwise authorized to acquire or possess an assault weapon or assault ammunition and is acting within the scope of his or her duties. In addition, this section shall not apply to the acquisition or possession of assault ammunition by persons employed to provide security for armored carriers or mobile check cashing services while in the course of such duties, while commuting directly to or from the person's place of employment, and while at the person's home, if the assault ammunition (1) is acquired or possessed for the use with a weapon that the person has been authorized to carry under Section 28 of the Illinois Private Detective, Private Alarm and Private Security Act of 1983; and (2) consists of an ammunition magazine that has a capacity of 15 or fewer rounds of ammunition.
(b) Any assault weapon or assault ammunition possessed, sold or transferred in violation of subsection (a) is hereby declared to be contraband and shall be seized and disposed of in accordance with the provisions of Section 8-20-220.

(c) Any person found in violation of this section shall be sentenced to not more than six months imprisonment or fined not less than $500.00 and not more than $1,000.00 or both.

(d) Any person who, prior to the effective date of the ordinance codified in this section, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or assault ammunition prohibited by this section shall have 14 days from the effective date of the ordinance codified in this section to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution hereunder:
 (1) To remove the assault weapon or ammunition from within the limits of the city of Chicago; or
 (2) To modify the assault weapon either to render it permanently inoperable or to permanently make it a device no longer defined as an assault weapon; or
 (3) To surrender the assault weapon or ammunition to the superintendent of police or his designee for disposal in accordance with Section 8-20-220. (Added C.J. 7-7-92, p. 19196; Amend. C.J. 7-29-92, p. 20068; 9-14-94, p. 56287)

Section 8-20-30:

(h)     "Assault weapon" means any of the following weapons:
(1)     Assault Rifles


AK 47 type  
86S type

 

AK 47S type  
86S7 type  

AK 74 type  
87S type  

AKS type  
Galil type  

AKM type  
Type 56 type  

AKMS type  
Type 565 type  

84S1 type  
Valmet M76 type  

Arm type  
Valmet M78 type  

84S1 type  
M76 counter sniper type  

84S3 type  
FAL type  

HK91 type  
L1A1A type  

HK93 type  
SAR 48 type  

HK94 type  
AUG type  

G3SA type  
FNC type  

K1 type  
Uzi carbine  

K2 type  
Algimec AGMI type  

AR100 type  
AR180 type  

M24S type  
MAS 223 type  

SIG 550SP type  
Beretta BM59 type  

SIG 551SP type  
Beretta AR70 type  

Australian Automatic Arms  
CIS SR88 type  

SAR type  
 

SKS type with detachable magazine  
 

Colt AR-15  
 

Springfield Armory SAR-48  
 

Springfield Armory BM-59  
 

Bushmaster Auto Rifle  
 

Auto-Ordinance Thompson M1  
 

Ruger Mini 14/5F  
 

Federal XC-900 and XC-450  
 

Feather AT-9 Auto Carbine  
 

Goncz High Tech Carbine  
 

Auto-Ordinance Thompson 1927A1  
 

Iver Johnson PM30 P Paratrooper  
 

(2)     Assault Pistols
Uzi type
Heckler & Koch Sp-89 type
Australian Automatic Arms SAP type
Spectre Auto type
Sterling Mark 7 type; and
(3)     Any weapon that the superintendent of police defines by regulation as an assault weapon because the design or operation of such weapon is inappropriate for lawful use.
(i)     "Assault ammunition" means any ammunition magazine having a capacity of more than twelve (12) rounds of ammunition.
(j)     "Disc projectile ammunition" means any ammunition which is composed of multiple disc shaped objects stacked together to form a single round of ammunition, including but not limited to the following types of ammunition: (i) Magdisc type; and (ii) Shatterdisc type.
(k)     "Handgun" means a firearm designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand, and includes a combination of parts from which such firearm can be assembled.
(l)     "Machine gun" means any firearm from which eight or more shots or bullets may be discharged by a single function of the firing device.
(m)     "Mayor" means the mayor of the City of Chicago or his or her designee.
(n)     "Metal piercing bullet" means any bullet that is manufactured with other than a lead or lead alloy core, or ammunition of which the bullet itself is wholly composed of, or machined from, a metal or metal alloy other than lead, or any other bullet that is manufactured to defeat or penetrate bullet resistant properties of soft body armor or any other type of bullet resistant clothing which meets the minimum requirements of the current National Institute for Justice Standards for "Ballistic Resistance of Police Body Armor".
(o)     "Organization" means partnership, company, corporation or other business entity, or any group or association of two or more persons united for a common purpose.
(p)     "Peace officer" means any person who by virtue of his office or public employment is vested by law with a duty to maintain public order or make arrests for offenses, whether that duty extends to all offenses or is limited to specific offenses.
(q)     "Person" shall mean any individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, society, joint stock company or organization of any kind.
(r)     "Sawed-off shotgun" means a shotgun having a barrel of less than 18 inches in length or a firearm made from a shotgun if such firearm is modified and has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel of less than 18 inches in length.
(s)     "Security personnel" means special agents employed by a railroad or public utility to perform police functions: guards of armored car companies, watchmen, security guards and persons regularly employed in a commercial or industrial operation for the protection of persons employed by or property related to such commercial or industrial operation.
(t)     "Short-barreled rifle" means a rifle having any barrel less than 16 inches in length, or a modified firearm if such firearm as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or any barrel of less than 16 inches.
(u)     "Superintendent" means the superintendent of the Chicago Police Department or his designated representative.
(v)     "Safety mechanism" means a design adaption or nondetachable accessory that lessens the likelihood of unanticipated use of the handgun by other than the owner of the handgun and those specifically authorized by the owner to use the handgun.
(w)     "Trigger lock" means a device that when locked in place by means of a key, prevents a potential user from pulling the trigger of the handgun without first removing the trigger lock by use of the trigger lock's key.
(x)     "Combination handle lock" means a device that is part of the handgun which precludes the use of the handgun unless the combination tumblers are properly aligned.
(y)     "Solenoid use-limitation device" means a device which precludes, by use of solenoid, the firing of the handgun unless a magnet of the appropriate strength is placed in proximity to the handle of the weapon.
(z)     "Load indicator" means a device which plainly indicates that a bullet is placed in the handgun in a way that pulling the trigger or otherwise handling the handgun may result in detonation.
(aa)     "Laser sight accessory" means a laser sighting device which is either integrated into a firearm or capable of being attached to a firearm.
(Prior code § 11.1-1; Amend Coun. J. 7-7-92, p. 19196; Amend Coun. J. 2-8-95, p. 65436; Amend Coun. J. 8-2-95, p. 5626; Amend Coun. J. 2-7-97, p. 38731; Amend Coun. J. 3-10-99, p. 91068)
12/24/2004 3:22:44 PM EDT
[#28]
edited.

Thanks for sending them.
12/24/2004 9:48:20 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Please, Please, Please....

Somebody post the Cook County AWB, or at least e-mail it to me ( [email protected]). I have been pulling hairs for going on two weeks since I first heard about this as I might be affected by it.
Thanks for posting the Chicago version, but I need to see the Cook County version. And Illinigunner, did you ever get the other PM's I sent on ShotgunWorld.com?



I sent it to you early this morning...Did you get it?
12/24/2004 9:50:48 PM EDT
[#30]

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City of Chicago Municipal Code:




The City of Chicago laws and the Cook County laws...while similar...are two different things.

Just because you live in Cook County does not mean you live in Chicago.  Please don't confuse the two.
12/25/2004 5:59:33 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Please, Please, Please....

Somebody post the Cook County AWB, or at least e-mail it to me ( [email protected]). I have been pulling hairs for going on two weeks since I first heard about this as I might be affected by it.
Thanks for posting the Chicago version, but I need to see the Cook County version. And Illinigunner, did you ever get the other PM's I sent on ShotgunWorld.com?



I sent it to you early this morning...Did you get it?



Got it.
On another note, does any one have any idea what the H*ll the Chicago ordinace means when it says Bushmaster Auto Rifle? As far as I know, Bushmaster has only ever offered the XM15E2S and M17S, and nothing called the Auto Rifle.  Thanks again Roadhawk and Happy Holidays to all.
12/25/2004 6:55:36 AM EDT
[#32]
Bushmaster made it's own .223 semi auto rifle back in the 80's, before it
became a big player in the AR-15 game. IIRC, it was a AK-esque piece if crap.
They also made a strange, single hand version called the "Arm Pistol".


CKMorley
12/26/2004 4:02:07 AM EDT
[#33]
www.wapahani.com/rifles2.html

Here is a link if any one wants to see this thing. Thanks for the explaination of what that rifle is.
12/26/2004 5:00:42 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
City of Chicago Municipal Code:




The City of Chicago laws and the Cook County laws...while similar...are two different things.

Just because you live in Cook County does not mean you live in Chicago.  Please don't confuse the two.



I don't live in either.  I just thought Chicago might be helpful, and it's all I could find.
12/30/2004 3:25:44 AM EDT
[#35]
Do you still need the Cook County laws?
12/30/2004 5:46:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Not any more, I finally got them. Is there away to delete my posts? I feel a little silly having four posts in the same thread say edited.
12/31/2004 12:16:55 PM EDT
[#37]
Edited.
1/27/2005 4:15:28 PM EDT
[#38]
I got a question, that law defined a machine gun as any firearm capable of firing 8 or more shots with a single pull of the trigger. Does that mean burst fire guns are ok there?

Rayn
2/1/2005 4:30:30 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
There is a ban on certain assault style weapons in Coon County.