Posted: 2/13/2007 4:31:43 PM EDT
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So what the hell is up with the background check process? I ordered a Saiga-12 from Tromix back in November. Today was the big day, the shotgun is in and I went to pick it up. Ran the background check, and was delayed for 8 days! Late 2005: buy S&W 9mm handgun, walk out that day Early 2006: buy WASR10 rifle, walk out that day Fall 2006: buy Glock handgun, 3 day delay Jan 2007: CHL arrives in the mail Jan 2007: buy Bushmaster M4, walk out that day Today: S12 arrives, *EIGHT* day delay WTF is going on here? During that time the only run-in I have had with the law was a speeding ticket (a month before the Glock purchase) which I paid. After the 3 day wait with the Glock, I was told I didn’t have to worry about delays anymore, and was even given some sort of OSP approval number for future purchases. Not a drug addict, wife beater, lunatic or anything like that, no restraining orders. Today I get an 8 day delay, wouldn’t accept my previous OSP approval number either. WTF is going on, and any of you who have dealt with delays before, do they usually take the full 8 days? Man, I don’t *need* it right now, but shit, I’ve been waiting 3 months already! 
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Don't know if you gave it or not but if you give a S.S. #, they have more to play with and sometimes will do so and therefore the extra wait while the dig, dig and dig. M-60's 3 day thing is true. Sorry to hear of your wait. I"d be bitching as well. I've never had to wait more than 15 minutes, and that was only once (Force 10). |
Good luck with Wes.I dont think i could wait that long! Sounds like we're turning into Kalifornia! |
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Oregon checks, along with a couple of other states, are done "in house". Essentially the dealer calls OSP who then do the NICS along with their own backround check. This is why Oregon charges a fee when the NICS is actually free. I know the NICS has a requirement to finish in three working days , but I'm not sure if Oregon recognises this rule or not. Also, where NICS does not allow records to be kept Oregon is allowed to keep them for five years.  I've been approved in one minute only to wait a few days the next time around. I've never heard of a OSP approval number. |
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ORS 366.412(3)(c): If the department fails to provide a unique approval number to a gun dealer or to notify the gun dealer that the purchaser is disqualified under paragraph (a) of this subsection before the close of the gun dealer’s next business day following the request by the dealer for a criminal history record check, the dealer may deliver the handgun to the purchaser. Don't know why it says handgun instead of firearm. |
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I think the longest I've ever waited before my dealer started writing down my approval number was about 30 seconds. I give my social every single time I buy. But then again, I've never even had a speeding ticket, and I'm former Army, though I don't know if OSP has that on file. Watch, now I'm going to get delayed when I go to buy to buy my M1A next month. |
Some scumbag with a name and DOB similar to yours is probably out getting arrested and getting warrants. A friend of mine has an alter ego who is a convicted felon down in FL or some place. Same name, same DOB but different middle initial and different birth year or something like that. |
The catch is the federal overides the state law and says after 3 business days the dealer can, at his discretion, release the firearm to you legally. However most dealers are scared shitless of pissing of the state or fed, that they will not release it. I have recently told the SP, after having a customers gun delayed, that if I did not hear back from them in 3 days as per federal law, I would release the firearm. I got calls back in less then 10 minutes both times. Now, the key here is that within those 3 days THEY HAVE TO GIVE A FIRM YES OR NO. Calling back and saying delayed for another x days is nothing more then a scare tactic. If more dealers would let them know at hte time of delay that they will follow federal law na release the gun when legally able, the state police will speed things up. The bottomline is that like mentioned Oregon along with a few other states handles the BGCs. Its not a bad thing and from what I hear in others states ALLOT faster then states that are handled at a fed level. But in agreeing to do the check, OSP receives fed money to help staff nad maintain the system. Recently they were audited by the fed and found slacking. They were basically threatened with loss of funding and ability to continue to operate if they didnt clean up their act. That has caused most of the recent delays in bgcs. OSP is just digging a little deeper to cover its ass. My advice, work with the dealer not affraid to tell the OSP and ATF, you will follow the rules, all of them. |
Here is the text right from the NCIS webpage....
Note the part in red. I will bet you money that the OSP agent doing the check did not inform your dealer of this....I know because I talked to tjhe OSP regarding this issue at the response was that "We talked to the ATF and we decided it was the FFLs responibility to know the law therefore we did not have to remind them of that!"  <---- OSP hard at work keeping guns out of your hands! |