Posted: 11/21/2007 2:03:53 AM EDT
| In a FTF transfer is it normal to provide a photo of your ID to the other person? I have no problem showing ID to prove who I am but I'm concerned giving a photo exposes me to identity theft. What say you? |
| It isn't required at all. Some people ask for it and some don't. If you are just showing it to verify that you are who you say you are and that you live in VA and are old enough is just like when you have to show it to get into a bar. Unless the person writes down your info for any purpose or has some crazy good memory for names and numbers, I wouldn't worry about it at all. I just say think about how many times you show your ID and that you likely haven't had any identity theft issues (at least none you are aware of) so that these few more times are not statistically going to increase the risk. |
| i can tell you, if i was selling a gun FTF and the buyer refused to show ID i would walk away. that shows you have something to hide. its an ID not your life's story. a picture doesnt mean they can steal your identity. i actually printed out a form last time and had the buyer sign it stating he was legal to own and purchase a firearm and was of age. looked at his ID no problems. the only info on the form was his name, my name, the date, and the make, model, and serial number of the gun. i made 2 copies, he got one and i got one. that way if something ever happened to the gun i have proof that i sold it and to whom i sold it to. |
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I agree w/ last poster. If person refuses to show ID, its probably because they have a D.C. drivers license and you can't legally sell them the gun. I personally show my DL and my CCW to let the seller know I am eligible to own firearms. And its a rare or non-existant identity thief who can memorize enough detail from quickly seeing your DL to steal your ID. Just show them the ID. Its not your fellow citizens you need to be wary of. |
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I would want to see an ID for several reasons: 1) Prove that you're a Virginia Resident and, if necessary, to confirm you're at least 18 2) To get some information to document If I know who you are, and have known you for a while, I don't need any of this because I already know it. However, if a FTF was organized, say through the EE or at a gun show, I would confirm that your face at least matches the one on the license, and write down the following information for my own records: - First/Last Name - Zip Code There's two reasons I get that information, and nothing more than that information: Reason #1 -- If, for whatever reason in the future, the firearm is found at the scene of a crime, when (if) the police come to me asking where the weapon is, I can say that I sold it to this person. Reason #2 -- Obtaining First/Last names and zip code is enough information for LE to find you, should an aforementioned trace be necessary, but not nearly enough information for me, or anyone for that matter, to be able to steal your identity. Hell, odds are that your first/last names and zip code are listed in the white pages or online somewhere, so there's no reason to complain about providing it to get a gun! Plus, compared to the information you'll provide when you buy a gun from an FFL, if you're going to complain about providing those three pieces of information then I'm going to become extremely suspicious about your eligibility to possess a firearm and will probably walk away from the deal. Then there are some people who want photo-copies of the buyer's driver's license -- that's just  _MaH |
I've never required it or been asked for it. Dealers never need a photocopy, they jut need to write down the DL# and make sure that the name and address match all the other info. A FTF seller shouldn't need any more than that either. If he insists on keeping an image of it then you could always photocopy it yourself and make sure that the photocopies are legible but grainy enough that they couldn't easily be used to do anything with. |
I don't think that's normal. I'd show ID (if buying), or ask to be shown ID (if selling). I wouldn't ask to copy the info (if selling), nor would I provide a copy of the info (if buying). |
I agree with this also,
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Yep! If the transferor acquired it through their C&R FFL, they're required to document the disposition of the firearm as well. So, don't give the poor C&R holder crap if he asks for the information... 'Cause I might decide to no longer sell it to you  _MaH |
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I typically require a copy of the ID to log out my C&Rs, it saves me from writing all the info twice. I want to record ID for all the handguns I sell whether or not they are C&R and I am willing to give a copy of my 03FFL when buying or selling a firearm FTF. I also keep a section of my bound book for all my non C&R firearms. This way I have a record of make, model and serial number for all my weapons. |
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So how about a copy of his hunting license instead? It has the info you need. And to play Devil's Advocate, if someone said "I want a copy of your DL so I don't have to write your address twice," it would peeve me. I just gave you several hundred dollars and you can't trouble yourself to not violate my privacy any more than you have to? In this day and age, your DL info is starting to take the place of SSN info, I can't blame someone for wanting to keep all of that close. Also, I'm not sure putting modern firearms in a C&R bound book is the greatest idea. If your book was ever subjected to inspection you'd be giving them information about a lot of things they don't have the right to. That info could also be considered erroneous entries. |