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7/4/2007 7:25:37 AM EDT
Well, at least I found it interesting, particularly parts of the powerpoint preso.

Its an FBI report on some inaccurate rumors about the abilities of Speer Gold Dot .40 S&W and TAP 5.56 ammo.

To me the interesting part is the ability of someone NOT on mind bending drugs like PCP to take considerable damage and still continue to present a danger, and on the falacy of believing that *any* round is a one stop shot (well, maybe a 20mm cannon shell ..).

Link

(You many want to allow your lunch to settle before looking at the powerpoint photos).
7/4/2007 7:37:44 AM EDT
[#1]
And it all comes down to the one final slide repeating what we should all know ......



7/4/2007 1:23:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Saw that last night.  

That guy sure took alot of damage!  Can't believe he went through all that, and they still had to handcuff him!  

Photos weren't very pleasant.....  I guess that just shows the reality of gunfights.

Maybe if photos like that were shown in high schools, kids wouldn't go on to live the thug life.  
7/4/2007 4:38:05 PM EDT
[#3]
my take strengethens my belief in 45 acp
7/4/2007 9:59:25 PM EDT
[#4]
I found that to be very interesting and my thoughts on it have alterered my thoughts on the possibility of what I would do in a shootout. I always thought that a few well placed shots ie 2 in the chest 1 in the head would be enough. Well like someone in one of the threads attached mentioned, Shoot until the threat stops. Very good read and thanks for the link PhilipPeake.
7/5/2007 6:31:35 AM EDT
[#5]
It challenges one of my beliefs too.

When giving CHL classes I have always responded to the question as to whether to carry extra ammo/mags by saying that if you have a semi-auto which holds 13 rounds and you have used all 13 and are still in trouble, then another 13 is not likely to help.

I am now wondering just how true that is.
7/5/2007 12:36:23 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
And it all comes down to the one final slide repeating what we should all know ......

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yup! bullets aren't magic.

Double_trouble and I were talking about this thread this morning.

a high motivation individual can be a real problem.  drugs, mental issues, idology, etc.  whatever drives them can allow them to be a participant in a gun fight much longer than you might expect.  

Looking at that guy's tattoos, I'm going to go out on a limb and say he isn't a pascifist granola cruncher who's never been in a fight.  He probably had an idea of what he was getting into when I set up his ambush.

Also, never underestimate the human bodies ability to take abuse and still function.



7/5/2007 5:54:41 PM EDT
[#7]
See that tatoo on his left arm? It was a clown,and it symbolizes street warfare,he's part of the clowns Joker.I wonder if he knew Meatwad.
7/5/2007 6:22:11 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
See that tatoo on his left arm? It was a clown,and it symbolizes street warfare,he's part of the clowns Joker.I wonder if he knew Meatwad.


Hmm... one might wonder how you came by this piece of knowedge.

7/5/2007 7:37:36 PM EDT
[#9]
It definitely wasn't from a late night cartoon show about a talking box of fries,a milkshake,and an uncooked burger pattie.