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7/9/2012 3:23:04 PM EDT
I'm looking to replace the chain link fence around my backyard.

One installer is quoting $1.70 per foot for spruce....and oddly enough there is no mention of posts.  Also $150 per walk-in gate.

I'm kinda worried about spruce, I don't recall it as being one of the more durable woods.  Should I be looking for western red cedar or even redwood?

Unless a miracle happens, I don't plan on living here for more than 2 years.  But I'm also using the info for the next house, if it needs a fence.


mm
7/9/2012 5:31:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Cedar/Redwood - naturally resistant to bugs/rotting without chemicals.  It can still happen, just not as likely or as quickly necessarily

Spruce like they quoted, will most likely be treated with a chemical to also make it resistant to bugs/rotting.  Will probably carry a warranty for many many years (if not lifetime).

So your choice comes down to:

Color - cedar/redwood you're kinda stuck, could stain it something darker.  Spruce could be whatever color you want (with stain of course, or keep it natural).
Chemicals - whether or not you care for them in your fence and potentially your ground
Price - spruce may be less up front, but if it's untreated will probably need to be replaced sooner than cedar/redwood.  If treated, price may come up closer to that of cedar/redwood

ETA that price you mentioned sounds crazy cheap, I don't even think the wood is that cheap unless they're quoting you per sq ft or something.  Typically it'll be at least like $15/ft.

After all that, I like cedar  Good price, good life to it, nice color.
7/9/2012 6:08:15 PM EDT
[#2]
I goofed.  $17.00 per ln foot.



mm
7/9/2012 10:18:24 PM EDT
[#3]




Quoted:

I goofed. $17.00 per ln foot.
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Damn....that seems pretty high. I'd get some more bids.



If you DIY, 6' high treated panels 8' wide are about 35.00 at Home Depot.



You can also buy hanger brackets and use your existing chain link fence poles instead of replacing them.

7/10/2012 5:52:26 AM EDT
[#4]
Does anybody know a source for cedar supply yard in DFW that will see to non contractors?  I'm looking at putting up a 8ft gate/fence and the local super stores don't have this material.
7/10/2012 6:17:58 AM EDT
[#5]
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Does anybody know a source for cedar supply yard in DFW that will see to non contractors?  I'm looking at putting up a 8ft gate/fence and the local super stores don't have this material.


We buy most of our wood from Craddock Lumber, south of Inwood on harry Hines.  Actually, the only wood we buy is 2"x6"x16' and 2"x8"x10' heart redwood since all almost everything we build is to be submerged.  I have seen cedar pickets up to 8' in length there and they seem to sell to everyone.

Always best to call ahead to see if they have it in stock.


mm
7/10/2012 7:14:18 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Does anybody know a source for cedar supply yard in DFW that will see to non contractors?  I'm looking at putting up a 8ft gate/fence and the local super stores don't have this material.


We buy most of our wood from Craddock Lumber, south of Inwood on harry Hines.  Actually, the only wood we buy is 2"x6"x16' and 2"x8"x10' heart redwood since all almost everything we build is to be submerged.  I have seen cedar pickets up to 8' in length there and they seem to sell to everyone.

Always best to call ahead to see if they have it in stock.


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Thanks!
7/10/2012 3:04:24 PM EDT
[#7]
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I goofed.  $17.00 per ln foot.



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Thats what I paid to have Cedar installed earlier this year with steel post. spruce was only 300 dollars less.
that was for 190 feet and two gates, also a 2x6 treated board runs along the bottom.
7/10/2012 4:52:47 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I goofed.  $17.00 per ln foot.



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Thats what I paid to have Cedar installed earlier this year with steel post. spruce was only 300 dollars less.
that was for 190 feet and two gates, also a 2x6 treated board runs along the bottom.


How long ago and in what part of DFW?

mm
7/11/2012 6:43:04 AM EDT
[#9]
Honestly wood will rot over a due time regardless.

We have a new policy at the county I work at that when  wood fence needs to be replaced we use the new decking stuff thats made out of some type of plastic.  It looks just like wood and weights close to the same but the benefits are huge.  

Not killing a tree for one but besides that you don't have to replace it every 4-5 years.  I have even started to switch my home wood fence out to this stuff as each panel says goodbye.  My HOA was up in arms at first until I showed them the benefits and the fact that the neighborhood across the street is using it.  

Just a thought though if you like wood fences use red over any other it will last twice as long and if seeled correctly will last longer.
7/11/2012 7:52:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Honestly wood will rot over a due time regardless.

We have a new policy at the county I work at that when  wood fence needs to be replaced we use the new decking stuff thats made out of some type of plastic.  It looks just like wood and weights close to the same but the benefits are huge.  

Not killing a tree for one but besides that you don't have to replace it every 4-5 years.  I have even started to switch my home wood fence out to this stuff as each panel says goodbye.  My HOA was up in arms at first until I showed them the benefits and the fact that the neighborhood across the street is using it.  

Just a thought though if you like wood fences use red over any other it will last twice as long and if seeled correctly will last longer.


Do you have a source on this material?  Pictures?
7/12/2012 10:10:17 AM EDT
[#11]




Quoted:



Quoted:

Honestly wood will rot over a due time regardless.



We have a new policy at the county I work at that when wood fence needs to be replaced we use the new decking stuff thats made out of some type of plastic. It looks just like wood and weights close to the same but the benefits are huge.



Not killing a tree for one but besides that you don't have to replace it every 4-5 years. I have even started to switch my home wood fence out to this stuff as each panel says goodbye. My HOA was up in arms at first until I showed them the benefits and the fact that the neighborhood across the street is using it.



Just a thought though if you like wood fences use red over any other it will last twice as long and if seeled correctly will last longer.




Do you have a source on this material? Pictures?


http://epsplasticlumber.com/index.cfm/page/fencing/fencing.cfm?gclid=CIysnPXdlLECFUNrtgodBF2Zdw



http://epsplasticlumber.com/index.cfm/product/129_29/dog-earred-fence-board.cfm    50 year Warranty.

7/12/2012 10:25:36 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Honestly wood will rot over a due time regardless.

We have a new policy at the county I work at that when wood fence needs to be replaced we use the new decking stuff thats made out of some type of plastic. It looks just like wood and weights close to the same but the benefits are huge.

Not killing a tree for one but besides that you don't have to replace it every 4-5 years. I have even started to switch my home wood fence out to this stuff as each panel says goodbye. My HOA was up in arms at first until I showed them the benefits and the fact that the neighborhood across the street is using it.

Just a thought though if you like wood fences use red over any other it will last twice as long and if seeled correctly will last longer.


Do you have a source on this material? Pictures?

http://epsplasticlumber.com/index.cfm/page/fencing/fencing.cfm?gclid=CIysnPXdlLECFUNrtgodBF2Zdw

http://epsplasticlumber.com/index.cfm/product/129_29/dog-earred-fence-board.cfm    50 year Warranty.


Thanks for the links.  Is it cheaper to buy this material locally or have it shipped directly to your house?  I'm probably only looking at 60ft.
7/12/2012 11:43:57 AM EDT
[#13]
I wish I could give you the numbers.  I know we send an order in and it gets dropped shipped at work.  I have been buying the decking stuff at home depot for my fence and it cuts and screw like regular wood.  Its a little more then wood but last for years.
7/12/2012 10:00:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Cedar fan here.  Built my fence in 1990 and it's still standing strong and looks good.  Steel posts w/caps, sunk in concrete.  Cedar stringers on brackets and cedar pickets on the stringers with a nail-gun.  No issues other than a quick repair to a high-use gate and a couple of pickets with the tops snapped off by a large limb blown off in a storm.  Yeah the materials cost more up front but it doesn't look shitty 22 years later and doesn't fall apart/over every other year like the cheap pre-built panels.