Posted: 12/12/2013 11:34:14 AM EDT
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from http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=43469
1000s Won't be Able to Apply For Concealed Carry License Due to Illinois State Police Complicated Application Process ISP Says Only Digital/Online ApplicationsTo Be Accepted! 1000s of Illinois citizens won't be able to apply for a concealed carry license, if the Illinois State Police proposed rules and regulations are approved by the Joint Committee on Administrative Rules on Dec. 17, 2013. ISP administrators say requiring electronic applications will make it easier for the ISP licensing division and will speed up the application process. However, 1,000s of Illinois residents do not have computers and internet access, and even if they did, they do not have the technical knowledge to maneuver through the complicated process of creating a digital signature, or scanning and attaching the required documents and photo. The process also requires applicant to set up an online ePay account in order to pay the license fee online with a credit card. This requirement will make it impossible for people who do not use credit cards. A great many people will be able to navigate the digital process just fine, but there must be a process made available for those without computers/internet/credit cards to fill out a paper application, put it in a paper envelope along with a paper check or money order, and mailed with a paper stamp. Other problems with ISP's proposed rules: 1. Their definition of a state's carry law needing to be substantially similar to IL nearly rules out all carry licenses for out of state residents. The definition should be that the state preforms a background check, has a reasonable amount of training, and they prohibit people with a mental health problem that show a clear and present danger. 2. ISP goes beyond the law and requires non-law enforcement instructors to have a current carry license but exempts instructors who are law enforcement. The Firearm Concealed Carry Act requires all instructors to be treated equally. 3. ISP has changed the definition of law enforcement official to include only LEOs who are employed, which rules out auxiliary law enforcement officials. Contact JCAR members now! Urge them to stand up for the 1000s of elderly and poor who will be denied the right to apply for a concealed carry license because they do not have the computer/internet resources to apply online for a license. Urge them to fairly define "substantially similar" so your family and friends who live out of state can obtain a carry license in order to protect themselves while in IL. Urge them to treat all instructors to the same requirements. Urge them to treat auxilary officials the same as employed in regards to training requirements and other aspects of the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Co-Chairman Sen. Don Harmon (217) 782-8176 (708) 848-2002 [email protected] Co-Chairman Rep. Timothy Schmitz (217) 782-5457 (630) 845-9590 [email protected] Sen. Pamela Althoff (217) 782-8000 (815) 455-6330 Sen. Tony Munoz (217) 782-9415 (773) 869-9050 Sen. Sue Rezin (217) 782-3840 (815) 220-8720 [email protected] Sen. Dale Righter (217) 782-6674 (217) 235-6033 [email protected] Sen. Ira Silverstein (217) 782-5500 (773) 743-5015 Rep. Gregory Harris (217) 782-3835 (773) 348-3434 Rep. Lou Lang (217) 782-1252 (847) 673-1131 [email protected] Rep. David Leitch (217) 782-8108 (309) 690-7373 [email protected] Rep. Don Moffitt (217) 782-8032 (309) 343-8000 [email protected] Rep. Andre Thapedi (217) 782-1702 (773) 873-4444 [email protected] |
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As a techy person, getting that digital ID was a pain in the ass, I feel bad for anyone less technically inclined than myself. Hopefully instructors will be able to assist students getting it. you got that right - I hear it's a bit better than it was a few weeks back |
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As a techy person, getting that digital ID was a pain in the ass, I feel bad for anyone less technically inclined than myself. Hopefully instructors will be able to assist students getting it. I did it this morning and it was easy. Firefox and Java both up to date on my machine. The only thing was seeing my AV tatter at me about the risk from running the script and the certificates. |
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I did it this morning and it was easy. Firefox and Java both up to date on my machine. The only thing was seeing my AV tatter at me about the risk from running the script and the certificates. Quoted:
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As a techy person, getting that digital ID was a pain in the ass, I feel bad for anyone less technically inclined than myself. Hopefully instructors will be able to assist students getting it. I did it this morning and it was easy. Firefox and Java both up to date on my machine. The only thing was seeing my AV tatter at me about the risk from running the script and the certificates. good news! |