Posted: 3/24/2011 1:52:07 PM EDT
| I am looking to purchase my first suppressor. I can not decide between a Gemtech for a 9mm or an integral barrel suppressor for my Ruger MKII. |
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I am looking to purchase my first suppressor. I can not decide between a Gemtech for a 9mm or an integral barrel suppressor for my Ruger MKII. Integrals are neat - but the flexibility you get when you can move a can from host to host is really helpful. Nowadays I'm selling a lot of product that runs multiple host. If you are going to do that much paperwork - I like the idea of one can - multiple solutions. But thats just me. |
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Here are some other things to think about.
If you only have one 9mm firearm, well that is the same as having an integral can as you only have one item that would be supressed. The integral .22 will probably cost more than a 9mm can. Buying a 9mm barrel for a firearm costs about $150 so ad that cost to the 9mm can. Add about 2 months to the transfer process to have the MK II modified. Would you be more apt to use the integral .22 in the back yard to control critters or a 9mm can? Depending on the length of the .22 integral, using it for carrying through the woods may be smaller and easier than a 9mm with a can attached. These aren't really answers but rather something else to think about. |
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Start will a .22 can. You can move it from any number of pistol hosts, to different 22 rifle hosts, then get a .22 kit and throw it on a AR. Back yard shooting made easy. I have shot internally surpressed .22 checkmate, and a 10/22. They are the shit but limited. Or get a 9mm can. |
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Well, my first can was a 5.56 can. The problem is that unless you know, you don't know that the sound from a gunshot is actually from two sources.
1. The combustion of the powder. 2. The sonic crack of the bullet. So my 5.56 can suppresses the powder charge, but the bullet still has the crack like someone popping a whip. In essence, it is still loud. Now, I can load less powder in the round (or buy sub rounds that are $$$$). But then the weapon will not cycle. The only cool thing is I can shoot .22 through my 5.56 can... And trust me that is the only thing I shoot through it. So I basically paid more money for a .22 can. Same deal with 9mm. Normal 9mm rounds are 115g bullets with about 5g of powder. To get rounds that do not produce the supersonic crack I load 147g bullets with 3.8g of powder. Having said all of that, I wish someone had told me to buy a 45 can (already subsonic) or a .22 can (subsonic rounds are cheap) for my first can.... I'd suggest a .22 can and one that can be user disassembled. User disassembled for two reasons: 1. Easy to clean and this is important for dirty .22 2. It is just cool as hell to be able to take apart and see the internals. So if you want 'Hollywood quiet' get a .22 can and some cheap subsonic rounds that you can find at your local wallyworld. Also... I would not get integral (internally suppressed). I would get one that can be used on several hosts. That way you could use it on several rifles and on several pistols. I have an integral 9mm (MP5SD), so basically I paid for a supressor (and tax stamp) that can ONLY be used on the one weapon.... Never mind I have plenty of 9mm's I would like to supress. And I ended up buying a normal MP5 as well. Finally (anyone still actually reading this???) if you are in the Ft Lauderdale area you can shoot my 5.56 to see what I am talking about. |
| I don't know much about suppressors but a buddy of mine has a Gemtech 5.56 Halo suppressor .... the nice thing about it is you only need a standard A2 FH to mount it ... no mods to the host weapon or special adapters needed. It's very simple and quick to install and remove it with their collar mounting system. The sound is suppressed somewhat but you still get a pretty good "crack" when using it on an AR. He then purchased a P22 ... got the threaded barrel adapter from YHM and then installed an A2 FH to mount the suppressor to that and let me tell you that pistol was dam near silent .... basically all you heard was a little "poof" and the slide moving back and forth and not much else. |
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The "best" most flexible way to do it for the least amount of money is to get a 22 can (I got the Silencerco Sparrow). I have had my guns (Ruger 10/22, Mark 2, & 17HMR) threaded with protectors and given that he Sparrow is serviceable can clean it between shootings etc. Integral might be a bit quieter but I have not put them side by side with the same ammo.
I like the flexibility to move btw guns and the fact that 22 is VERY dirty and I can clean it. The new Sparrows are actually SS and you can use the dip (aluminum cans don't do so well). That said I also have the Gemtech Multi-Mount for my MP5 clone and the 9mm handguns that I have. It's great but I worry about using it with 22 due to buildup. I am in Naples if you are near and would like to play with each. |
| I was in the same boat in December. I decided to go with a .22 can for multiple hosts and havent looked back. It is a whole lot of cheap fun. I shoot it on a P22, 22/45 and soon to add dedicated .22 upper for my AR. I lost interest in an integral suppressor when I realized I already had these other hosts in the safe and I could move a separate can around to them. |