Posted: 8/4/2006 6:34:24 PM EDT
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September of 94 is the magic date for pre-bans. The detachable mag does not count as an evil feature, it just qualifies the rifle as a semi-automatic rifle with detachable mags. You're allowed to have 1 evil feature, but 2 will classify the rifle as an assault weapon. |
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"The detachable mag does not count as an evil feature, it just qualifies the rifle as a semi-automatic rifle with detachable mags." WHAT?have |
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To be an assault weapon, a semi-automatic rifle must have a detachable magazine capable of accepting over 5 rounds. A detachable mag is a qualifying feature of being an assault weapon. It is not one of the evil features. The evil features are: i) folding/telescoping stock ii)pistol grip iii) bayonet mount iv) grenade launcher In your post you stated: 
A detachable mag is not an evil feature, therefore you would only have one (the flash suppressor.) BTW, being rude is generally not a great way to respond to someone who is answering your question. |
I consider that rude. You could have asked for a clarification if you didn't understand. -=-=-=-=- Anyway, its actually 2 features = assault weapon. 1 feature = okay. You're misunderstanding I think. AR's are able to accept detachable magazines with a capacity greater than 5 rounds so they are subject to the rules. If they didn't have detachable mags, then you wouldn't need to worry about the 'evil feature list'. So unless the AR is pre-ban, you cannot have both the flash suppressor and the pistol grip because that would be 2 evil features, which would make it an assault weapon. Again, the detachable magazine is not actually one of the features, but it makes your rifle subject to the other evil feature restrictions. A good example: I have an SKS with a pistol grip and a bayonet lug. Normally that is 2 'evil features' which would make it an assault weapon. HOWEVER, the rifle has a fixed magazine (it is not removable) which means that it is not subject to the evil feature list, therefore, it is not an assault weapon. If I took the SKS apart and installed a detachable magazine, it would indeed be an assault weapon. In simplest terms: Detachable magazine means evil features matter. Fixed magazine/single shot means evil features don't matter. |
| Under the AWB features test if you intend on adding a "threaded on" flash suppressor it must be welded or silver brazed (1100 °F silver solder) so it covers the threads and is permanently attached. A flash suppressor and a threaded barrel would count as two features and make it a drive by baby killin' illegal assault weapon. |
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So there are no opinions to form or sensitivity issues--Fron the NRA site. 1. Assault weapon means: A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: a folding or telescoping stock; a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a bayonet mount; a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; a grenade launcher. a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics: a folding or telescoping stock; a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; an ability to accept a detachable magazine. A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned; manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded. A semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm. Any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as: Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (All Models); Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; Beretta Ar70 (SC-70); Colt AR-15; Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; Steyr AUG; INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12. Assault weapons does not include: any rifle, shotgun or pistol that: is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide action; or has been rendered permanently inoperable; or An antique firearm as defined under federal law A semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; A semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine; A rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof, specifically exempted from the federal assault weapon ban list as such weapon was manufactured on October 1, 1993. 2. Large capacity ammunition feeding device means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September 13, 1994, that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition. There is an exception for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. SOURCES: New York Consolidated Laws, Articles 265 and 400 of the Penal Law, Article 11 0901, 11-0929 and 11-0931 of the Environmental Conservation Code; Article 26, Sections 396ee and 396ff; Article 39-B and Article 39-DD of the General Business Code. |
Doesn't the threaded barrel and flashhider qualify as one feature?
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I don't know about NJ but in NY the NYAG/NYSP will not provide a legal opinion to that question or any other NY AWB question. I would take the conservative approach and permanently cover the threads on a NY postban rifle. If you are going to install a flash suppressor as your one feature on a postban rifle it must not be 22mm in diameter or it also qualifies as a grenade launcher. |
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Be careful which set screw/pin on suppressor you get because a lot of them are junk that will loosen once you start shooting. If I had a choice, I'd thread the barrel and do it right, but that's just me. A true flash suppressor is an evil feature whether or not its threaded on. The ability to accept a suppressor via threads is also an evil feature (albeit the same.) Make sure you're actually talking about a suppressor and not just a muzzle break. |