Posted: 10/2/2011 2:42:15 AM EDT
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From another shooting forum...................
Apparently at least one licensing authority have decided that having granted a variation for a rifle, when the FAC holder buys a "military looking" one and sends his FAC back in for any reason...................once they notice that he has filled that slot with a "military looking" rifle, they put on a condition that its for range use only. So, no black rifles for use in the field 
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Well, I am aware of nothing in legislation that allows for this.
Maybe if the landowner specified that the permission to shoot was conditional on type of rifle used, then maybe they could word a condition accordingly. I hope that this is jumped on as it could be the thin end of a worrying wedge. |
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Bollocks, Nowhere on your license does it ask what your gun looks like. If you were to write "military looking" then you are a twat From what I understand, they are looking at what rifle the FAC holder has bought - probably googling the makers name / model - and deciding themselves what it looks like ! |
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Bollocks, Nowhere on your license does it ask what your gun looks like. If you were to write "military looking" then you are a twat From what I understand, they are looking at what rifle the FAC holder has bought - probably googling the makers name / model - and deciding themselves what it looks like ! sounds dubious - surely to pull this off they would need to provide some logical basis for the reasoning and officially define 'military looking'? the phrase 'military looking' is quite vague in itself. worrying nonetheless. Nope, its probably just some of the usual cobblers spouted on the BBS on a daily basis. I don't believe any of it |
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Quoted: Merseyside will , i had one a few years back Quoted: I haven't heard of this one. Wasn't there a licensing authority that tried preventing people buying certain designs a few years ago? The Bushmaster M17 was one I believe they mentioned by name. D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 |
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I haven't heard of this one. Wasn't there a licensing authority that tried preventing people buying certain designs a few years ago? The Bushmaster M17 was one I believe they mentioned by name. D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 Do they give a reason ? |
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Quoted: 'cause they're nothing more than murderous implements of war Quoted: Quoted: I haven't heard of this one. Wasn't there a licensing authority that tried preventing people buying certain designs a few years ago? The Bushmaster M17 was one I believe they mentioned by name. D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 Do they give a reason ? and something about 'for the children' |
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Bollocks, Nowhere on your license does it ask what your gun looks like. If you were to write "military looking" then you are a twat From what I understand, they are looking at what rifle the FAC holder has bought - probably googling the makers name / model - and deciding themselves what it looks like ! sounds dubious - surely to pull this off they would need to provide some logical basis for the reasoning and officially define 'military looking'? the phrase 'military looking' is quite vague in itself. worrying nonetheless. It could be argued that any bolt action rifle is "military looking" as bolt actions were the principal military rifle type for about 150 years and are still in widespread military service today. The same goes for underlevers which were in use with the US Army from the late 1870's. I would not doubt that some dickhead somewhere would be prepared to try this sort of thing on. I have for some time thought that attempts to push the envelope of legislation are made in a sneaky way at a local level to gauge the response and then rolled out as a precedent. I remember years ago some prat of a senior officer in possibly Norfolk, I'm sure it was East Anglia somewhere, wittering on TV about the performance of the Vauxhall Lotus Carlton, to the effect that this was far too much of a performance car to be made available to Joe Public. The same argument was made about the Honda Blackbird motor cycle, again it got nowhere. I agree it's cobblers and would like to see evidence rather than rumour but I still have the suspicion that ACPO or some other questionable outfit associated with legislation float ideas in this underhand way to gauge reaction. |
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Now I've found the reference to this on the BBS. It seems that on IOM, they indeed are restricting "military style" rifles to range use only. Strange that somewhere with more freedoms than us would go that way. They still have handguns.
America, Australia and Canada all have a mixture of restrictions and bans which are judged via military appearance/features, or banning specifically by name. Australia seems to have the most stringent system. Quoted:
D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 Yes, those are apparently restricted in several licensing areas. In previous discussions as to why, I heard it was something to do with possibly being convertible to a pistol. |
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I haven't heard of this one. Wasn't there a licensing authority that tried preventing people buying certain designs a few years ago? The Bushmaster M17 was one I believe they mentioned by name. D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 I shot one at a club in GMP's area a couple of months ago. |
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The AR-7 survival rifle or charter arms clause does appear on D&C licenses, but not all, for some strange reason
it states that you can have one, but will require a variation for it, you cant purchase one under the normal .22rf rifle slot it was on my first FAC, then due to variations etc, it was on my 2nd, but not on my third?? cut and paste from a scan of my 1st FAC The authority to acquire a .22 rifle applies to any section 1 rifle except the CHARTER ARMS or AR7 SURVIVAL rifle. Authority to acquire a CHARTER ARMS or AR7 SURVIVAL rifle must be made on a separate application pertaining to this particular firearm. |
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I haven't heard of this one. Wasn't there a licensing authority that tried preventing people buying certain designs a few years ago? The Bushmaster M17 was one I believe they mentioned by name. D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 Do they give a reason ? They dont like them because you can shoot it without the stock, a better reason would be because they are crap I cut one up last week as I couldnt shift it Rich |
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I haven't heard of this one. Wasn't there a licensing authority that tried preventing people buying certain designs a few years ago? The Bushmaster M17 was one I believe they mentioned by name. D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 Do they give a reason ? They dont like them because you can shoot it without the stock, a better reason would be because they are crap I cut one up last week as I couldnt shift it Rich 
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I haven't heard of this one. Wasn't there a licensing authority that tried preventing people buying certain designs a few years ago? The Bushmaster M17 was one I believe they mentioned by name. D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 Do they give a reason ? They dont like them because you can shoot it without the stock, a better reason would be because they are crap I cut one up last week as I couldnt shift it Rich Don't let them see a Ruger 10/22 then!!! 12" barrel, no stock and still fully functional, about 16" overall length  Well done Einstein, nothing like loose lips is there 
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Quoted: so true , i had a chatrter arms ar7 , mint and still in its box , i swapped it for a PH pump action , not sure if i bettered myself on that one Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I haven't heard of this one. Wasn't there a licensing authority that tried preventing people buying certain designs a few years ago? The Bushmaster M17 was one I believe they mentioned by name. D&C apparently won't let you buy an AR-7 Do they give a reason ? They dont like them because you can shoot it without the stock, a better reason would be because they are crap I cut one up last week as I couldnt shift it Rich  |