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1/30/2008 10:37:02 AM EDT
Anyone else excited about these?

Got word today that the first batch (of I think 10) is in the country, and we are getting 4 delivered on Friday

Can't wait to play with one! Going to be down the range first thing Saturday morning. There's gonna be a lot of .22 brass flying about

I'll post a review on here ASAP...

I hope they are as good as expected...
1/30/2008 10:47:28 AM EDT
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Anyone else excited about these?

Got word today that the first batch (of I think 10) is in the country, and we are getting 4 delivered on Friday

Can't wait to play with one! Going to be down the range first thing Saturday morning. There's gonna be a lot of .22 brass flying about

I'll post a review on here ASAP...

I hope they are as good as expected...


Have you got your 4 allocated ?

I want one sending to my RFD

Steve
1/30/2008 10:49:23 AM EDT
[#2]
They look fun, but nothing my V22 won't do. A 12" barrel version would be ok but I'm not going to rush out and buy one..

Sabre Defence is advertising them too..
1/30/2008 10:51:02 AM EDT
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They look fun, but nothing my V22 won't do. A 12" barrel version would be ok but I'm not going to rush out and buy one..

Sabre Defence is advertising them too..


So are Centra u.k.
1/30/2008 10:51:29 AM EDT
[#4]

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Anyone else excited about these?

Got word today that the first batch (of I think 10) is in the country, and we are getting 4 delivered on Friday

Can't wait to play with one! Going to be down the range first thing Saturday morning. There's gonna be a lot of .22 brass flying about

I'll post a review on here ASAP...

I hope they are as good as expected...


Have you got your 4 allocated ?

I want one sending to my RFD

Steve


Yes!

We were top of the list with the importers so were lucky enough to get that many...

But we have 5 customers atm with their names down for them, so no going spare atm.

We are of course keeping one personally to test

ETA: supply is a bit scarce atm, but there will be plenty around when the second batch comes in!
1/30/2008 10:57:25 AM EDT
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Rumour I hear is there are 40 coming.

As a side note, and I'm not suggesting it in any way, but, I have an aversion to "new" .22rf semi's in particular circumstances as I nearly bought a "brand new" Rhineland Arms R22 when they first came in, only to discover that my aforementioned "brand new, never been fired" rifle was actually being used as a demonstrator for all and sundry

The term "stick it up your ass" sprung to mind
1/30/2008 11:07:32 AM EDT
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Rumour I hear is there are 40 coming.

As a side note, and I'm not suggesting it in any way, but, I have an aversion to "new" .22rf semi's in particular circumstances as I nearly bought a "brand new" Rhineland Arms R22 when they first came in, only to discover that my aforementioned "brand new, never been fired" rifle was actually being used as a demonstrator for all and sundry

The term "stick it up your ass" sprung to mind


It may be 40, i'm unsure on the exact amount, but i know 4 will land on my doorstep on friday, and i can't wait!

Its just dishonest to sell test guns as new... I'd never do that.

Usually have to wait until someone i know buys one, but as my dad is putting on on his ticket, i can shoot it all i want
1/30/2008 11:11:11 AM EDT
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Rumour I hear is there are 40 coming.

As a side note, and I'm not suggesting it in any way, but, I have an aversion to "new" .22rf semi's in particular circumstances as I nearly bought a "brand new" Rhineland Arms R22 when they first came in, only to discover that my aforementioned "brand new, never been fired" rifle was actually being used as a demonstrator for all and sundry

The term "stick it up your ass" sprung to mind


It may be 40, i'm unsure on the exact amount, but i know 4 will land on my doorstep on friday, and i can't wait!

Its just dishonest to sell test guns as new... I'd never do that.

Usually have to wait until someone i know buys one, but as my dad is putting on on his ticket, i can shoot it all i want


Well you'd better post some pics
1/30/2008 11:12:29 AM EDT
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Rumour I hear is there are 40 coming.

As a side note, and I'm not suggesting it in any way, but, I have an aversion to "new" .22rf semi's in particular circumstances as I nearly bought a "brand new" Rhineland Arms R22 when they first came in, only to discover that my aforementioned "brand new, never been fired" rifle was actually being used as a demonstrator for all and sundry

The term "stick it up your ass" sprung to mind


You're too sensitive, the term 'significant discount' would have come to my mind.....
1/30/2008 11:13:41 AM EDT
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Anyone else excited about these?

Got word today that the first batch (of I think 10) is in the country, and we are getting 4 delivered on Friday

Can't wait to play with one! Going to be down the range first thing Saturday morning. There's gonna be a lot of .22 brass flying about

I'll post a review on here ASAP...

I hope they are as good as expected...



WNSC Mini Rifle day!
1/30/2008 11:14:11 AM EDT
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Rumour I hear is there are 40 coming.

As a side note, and I'm not suggesting it in any way, but, I have an aversion to "new" .22rf semi's in particular circumstances as I nearly bought a "brand new" Rhineland Arms R22 when they first came in, only to discover that my aforementioned "brand new, never been fired" rifle was actually being used as a demonstrator for all and sundry

The term "stick it up your ass" sprung to mind


You're too sensitive, the term 'significant discount' would have come to my mind.....


Especially now you know you could sell it on for big bucks, I still get people asking me where they can get one.
1/30/2008 11:17:17 AM EDT
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Anyone else excited about these?

Got word today that the first batch (of I think 10) is in the country, and we are getting 4 delivered on Friday

Can't wait to play with one! Going to be down the range first thing Saturday morning. There's gonna be a lot of .22 brass flying about

I'll post a review on here ASAP...

I hope they are as good as expected...



WNSC Mini Rifle day!


That isn't for a month!!!

I'm doing WNSC PSG on Sat, so i'll take it there, and the RO's normally let me have a play if i ask nicely

Oh, and pics will be added ASAP
1/30/2008 1:08:42 PM EDT
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Anyone else excited about these?

Got word today that the first batch (of I think 10) is in the country, and we are getting 4 delivered on Friday

Can't wait to play with one! Going to be down the range first thing Saturday morning. There's gonna be a lot of .22 brass flying about

I'll post a review on here ASAP...

I hope they are as good as expected...



WNSC Mini Rifle day!


That isn't for a month!!!

I'm doing WNSC PSG on Sat, so i'll take it there, and the RO's normally let me have a play if i ask nicely

Oh, and pics will be added ASAP


Damn, I didn't realised it alternated with PSG! I don't do shotguns, except for work, they're so uncouth.....

Double damn, the next mini-rifle comp I can make is July!
2/1/2008 9:22:53 AM EDT
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Just bought the latest issue of shooting sports.....inside theres a lame 'review' of the GSG .22 by Pete Moore.....no mention of accuracy potential... as his HV ammo wouldnt work and he only had 1 box of subs to hand...

Kinda pointless if you asked me, not so much a review, more of a 3 page advert

Oh well. will have to satisfy myself with shooting one tomorrow......

ETA - In his blurb he mentions that due to the availability of folding stocks, the barrels couldnt be shortened to 12", despite still having an OAL of 24" if you used the fixed stock.

Is this BS ?
2/1/2008 9:47:55 AM EDT
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Kinda pointless if you asked me, not so much a review, more of a 3 page advert


My impression exactly!


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ETA - In his blurb he mentions that due to the availability of folding stocks, the barrels couldnt be shortened to 12", despite still having an OAL of 24" if you used the fixed stock.

Is this BS ?


My question exactly!  If true I think a lot of people will be disappointed.  And I'm amazed he only took 2 types of ammo to test a brand new rimfire rifle!  Sounds a bit fishy to me.  I once bought a SGC .22 rf on the strength of a good Pete Moore review in Shooting Sports (as did quite a few others who were also taken in) and it took almost 2 years and numerous trips back to Cornwall to get it sorted!

Caveat emptor!

Regards,

Ex-Geronimo.
2/1/2008 10:45:29 AM EDT
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Pete Moore knows jack sH*& about shooting but does manage to blag loads of kit though his editorship of Shooting Sports and Gun Mart.  I wouldn't take any of his opinions even with a pinch of salt.
2/1/2008 10:54:35 AM EDT
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Pete Moore knows jack sH*& about shooting but does manage to blag loads of kit though his editorship of Shooting Sports and Gun Mart.  I wouldn't take any of his opinions even with a pinch of salt.


B**locks, he thinks my AK cocking handle is great

I was at Sabre today and they have them coming in too, but directly from the manufacturer, at prices more competitive than Centra.

I had a look at a German review while I was there, and it loks OK to me
2/1/2008 11:20:37 AM EDT
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B**locks, he thinks my AK cocking handle is great



Maybe, but how many people shoot AKs competitively, FatBoy Pete doesn't.
2/1/2008 11:21:49 AM EDT
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ETA - In his blurb he mentions that due to the availability of folding stocks, the barrels couldnt be shortened to 12", despite still having an OAL of 24" if you used the fixed stock.

Is this BS ?



Sounds like cock to me. Nothing stopping me fitting a side folding stock to me stumpy Bremmer is there?

Working on his concept, any rifle with a wooden stock should come with a 12" barrel due to the ready avaiiability of hacksaws.
2/1/2008 1:57:43 PM EDT
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Kinda pointless if you asked me, not so much a review, more of a 3 page advert


My impression exactly!


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ETA - In his blurb he mentions that due to the availability of folding stocks, the barrels couldnt be shortened to 12", despite still having an OAL of 24" if you used the fixed stock.

Is this BS ?


My question exactly!  If true I think a lot of people will be disappointed.  And I'm amazed he only took 2 types of ammo to test a brand new rimfire rifle!  Sounds a bit fishy to me.  I once bought a SGC .22 rf on the strength of a good Pete Moore review in Shooting Sports (as did quite a few others who were also taken in) and it took almost 2 years and numerous trips back to Cornwall to get it sorted!

Caveat emptor!

Regards,

Ex-Geronimo.


Was that a V22? If so I'm really surprised. I've had mine 5 years now and all I've ever had was a replacement firing pin. The Ceiner type mags are crap of course but the CNC ones, 10 round and 22/25 round have always been good, and now that BDM's are available it remains my most used gun.
2/1/2008 2:48:26 PM EDT
[#20]
Yet another thread gone off topic....

But who cares...

THEY'RE HERE
2/1/2008 2:56:48 PM EDT
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Yet another thread gone off topic....

But who cares...

THEY'RE HERE


Well ???? Get down the range test one out we need pictures!!
2/1/2008 3:16:55 PM EDT
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all in good time!!!!

Just had one in pieces and been checking it out. They seem to be very well made.

Got a SUSAT mounted up, and i'll be down the range with it tomorrow!
2/1/2008 10:23:40 PM EDT
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Yet another thread gone off topic....

But who cares...

THEY'RE HERE


Well ???? Get down the range test one out we need pictures!!


+1
2/1/2008 10:58:38 PM EDT
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ETA - In his blurb he mentions that due to the availability of folding stocks, the barrels couldnt be shortened to 12", despite still having an OAL of 24" if you used the fixed stock.

Is this BS ?



Sounds like cock to me. Nothing stopping me fitting a side folding stock to me stumpy Bremmer is there?

Working on his concept, any rifle with a wooden stock should come with a 12" barrel due to the ready avaiiability of hacksaws.


Here's another review of the rifle, far better and more comprehensive than the one in target sports Linky

You can see from one of the photo's link how easy the stock is removed. I guess caution is being played here to ensure its kept section 1........The truth of the matter is more likely to be the fact that this is done to cater for the US market. If classed as a short barreled rifle it attracts a $200 tax levy which could make it unattractively expensive for a .22 rifle. I guess we've benefited for once hinking.gif

I'd be interested to hear what the rifles like, I'm consider trading in my 10/22 if they perform reasonably well.
2/2/2008 2:57:38 AM EDT
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Was that a V22? If so I'm really surprised. I've had mine 5 years now and all I've ever had was a replacement firing pin. The Ceiner type mags are crap of course but the CNC ones, 10 round and 22/25 round have always been good, and now that BDM's are available it remains my most used gun.


No, it was a you can't bend it DPMS M4 clone.  Bob brought about 40 into the country and from what he tells me there were few, if any, he didn't have problems with.  Shooting Sports gave it a great write up and said it worked with subs, std and hyper ammo without a hitch, and maybe the test one did, but not the production ones!

I eventually found the answers on here in the rimfire forum from some very experienced American chaps and so the rifle was sent back and forward to get parts replaced and the trigger mech changed (you can't put an after-market trigger in), new magazines added (as they had to be checked individually for rifle fit) etc and with SGC turn round times it took the guts of 2 years to get it to shoot!!  Every time I phoned I was met with a severe lack of interest from Bob who was clearly unable or unwilling to sort it out.  And this was a £1200 rifle!!!!  Anyway it's water under the bridge now but I'll never again buy anything from SGC!

Best regards,

Ex-Geronimo.
2/2/2008 3:45:34 AM EDT
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Was that a V22? If so I'm really surprised. I've had mine 5 years now and all I've ever had was a replacement firing pin. The Ceiner type mags are crap of course but the CNC ones, 10 round and 22/25 round have always been good, and now that BDM's are available it remains my most used gun.


No, it was a you can't bend it DPMS M4 clone.  Bob brought about 40 into the country and from what he tells me there were few, if any, he didn't have problems with.  Shooting Sports gave it a great write up and said it worked with subs, std and hyper ammo without a hitch, and maybe the test one did, but not the production ones!

I eventually found the answers on here in the rimfire forum from some very experienced American chaps and so the rifle was sent back and forward to get parts replaced and the trigger mech changed (you can't put an after-market trigger in), new magazines added (as they had to be checked individually for rifle fit) etc and with SGC turn round times it took the guts of 2 years to get it to shoot!!  Every time I phoned I was met with a severe lack of interest from Bob who was clearly unable or unwilling to sort it out.  And this was a £1200 rifle!!!!  Anyway it's water under the bridge now but I'll never again buy anything from SGC!

Best regards,

Ex-Geronimo.


2/3/2008 1:11:17 AM EDT
[#27]
Wassup then, didn't it work??
2/3/2008 1:41:29 AM EDT
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Wassup then, didn't it work??


Apologies, I had a very busy afternoon in the shop yesterday, and was snowed under with paper work until late, so haven't had time to write a review, but expect one later today, with pics.

It worked brilliantly btw.
2/3/2008 1:45:23 AM EDT
[#29]
Make sure you spell check your review before you post it.  
2/3/2008 2:13:26 AM EDT
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Make sure you spell check your review before you post it.  


2/3/2008 4:20:33 AM EDT
[#31]
This thread has gone a bit off topic. See new one for review and pics