[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Getting pulled over in CT (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/22/2011 8:05:31 AM EDT
| Never got a correct answer to this question so lets try here. Being a resident of Connecticut and a Pistol Permit Holder, the question is, is there anything in the book stating that when you are pulled over, you to notifie the office that you are carrying a pistol and have the permit available for inspestion? |
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Nothing is required by law in regards to you notifying the officer, and I have not mentioned it the 2-3 times I have been stopped or gone through checkpoints. I will say that many officers that I know prefer to be notified (a few in fact have said that they will reduce what would normally be a ticket to a written warning if they are told). Most likely the dispatcher will notify the officer once your license plate is run through the system (before he approaches vehicle). Before I got my permit I was asked if I had any weapons or illegal substances on me every single time I was stopped and my standard response was "Such as rocket launchers and machine guns? No, not today officer" ETA: maybe they don't ask me any more because I now have a narcotics shield next to my license plate and on my windshield?    |
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Several years ago I got pinched at a checkpoint in West Haven. When asked for my drivers license, I accidentally handed him my CT permit. When he came back to my car, he didn't even ask if I had a weapon, just gave me a dirty look and said I gave him the wrong ID and asked for my drivers license. |
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The only time I've handed mine over to a police officer was in upstate NY this past spring. Was riding along with a family member in their car when the family member decides they were tired and wanted someone else to drive, so we pulled over on an exit ramp to change drivers. Unfortunately we pulled off the highway at an exit where the NY state police had some kind of road block setup about 50 yards down the road that the off ramp exited onto. One of the officers got in his car and drove over to where we were parked and flipped on this lights. Since I had just gotten into the drivers seat he walks up to the window asks for my license and car registration and begins to ask all sorts of questions (why did you pull off, where are you going type questions). I pulled out the license and handed it along with the car's registration to him as I answered his questions. He noticed the CT pistol permit in my wallet under where I keep my license and asked me what kind of ID was that. I told him it was my CT pistol permit. He gruffly demanded to see it as well, so I handed it over and told him we didn't have any firearms in the car. He walked back to his cruiser and stood there for several minutes (I assume running my info) before coming back and handing me both ID's and the car registration back and sent us on my merry way. We did ask why they had the road block setup in the middle of the day but the officer refused to answer that question.
Edit to add: I've inadvertently handed the pistol permit over a couple of times when at the airport (TSA security screening) when they ask for ID or if a store asks for ID. |
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In my own expieriences over the years if their is a firearm in the car and I am pulled over I do tell the police.
Each time(4 instances total) whatever I was pulled over for(a broken headlight,2 speeding violations and not completely stopping at a stop sign) I was always let go with a warning instead of a ticket.On 2 of those occasions the office flat out said that because I was honest and upfront about a firearm in the car they let me slide on the moving violation. I have asked a few relatives and a couple of buddies of mine that are LEO's and most of them told me if it is a minor violation and you are not a dick they will give you a warning if you tell them you have a weapon in the car and are licensed to carry said weapon. YMMV |
Your best bet is to scream at the top of your lungs "I have a gun" and wave it out the window to show them. The officers are very friendly when you do that... Seriously, though, like the others have said, there is no duty to notify the officer. It doesn't hurt, however, to hand him both your license and pistol permit. The two times I've been pulled over (for minor infractions), the officer was very courteous and appreciative of me letting him know. Like any other dealings with a LEO, don't be a dick and they (99 times out of 100) won't be one to you. |
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The other idea is to distract the officer. A simple redirection of their attention, so to speak.
Pulling over a motorist, who is naked with the exception of 30 weight motor oil, a large bag of ball bearings and three live chickens in the passenger seat; a concealed handgun permit will be the least of the officer's worries. |
| I'm not in CT, but when I have got pulled over for doing stupid s**t I let them know. I cut off the Sheriff one night at a stop sign and when he was given my CCP he wanted to see my .45. It was the coolest .45 ever. When can we get together to shoot? So much for not stopping at the stop sign, not that I mind. Yeah, I let them know. It lets them know I care about their welfare. |
Lots of good info, thanks a lot. How 'bout the last question, what if your going to the range with the and no pistols, just the Ma deuce full auto?
Little story, a friend in West Suffield is a retired Police chief and has 120 acres and lets me shoot the mg's on a semi-regular basis. Anyway, couple of years ago, I was shooting my HK21 when all of a sudden a West Suffield cruiser had pulled up, asked for the serial #, ran it, came back and told me that a neibor wanted me arrested for to much noise. They officer asked me what caliber was the gun was, replied and said it's a .308. He said that he hunts with a .308 and told me to have a nice day. I did offer to let him shoot the gun, but because he was on duty he passed... |
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Most likely the dispatcher will notify the officer once your license plate is run through the system (before he approaches vehicle). Unless something has recently changed there is no link between databases. A DMV check in CT will NOT provide a indication of a gun permit. |
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Most likely the dispatcher will notify the officer once your license plate is run through the system (before he approaches vehicle). Unless something has recently changed there is no link between databases. A DMV check in CT will NOT provide a indication of a gun permit. I was pulled over on Main St in Manchester last summer one night after the movies got out on my way to the 711 for a slurpee. Cop put on his lights and pulled me over as I was pulling into the lot. First thing he asked me after lic and reg was if i was carrying. I said yeah and gave him my permit. Ran the numbers while at my door. Everything came up clear and he said have a nice night. Didnt even tell me why he pulled me over lol. Ill ask one of my ct cop buddies if the pistol permit shows up when they run the plate. |
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Most likely the dispatcher will notify the officer once your license plate is run through the system (before he approaches vehicle). Unless something has recently changed there is no link between databases. A DMV check in CT will NOT provide a indication of a gun permit. I was pulled over on Main St in Manchester last summer one night after the movies got out on my way to the 711 for a slurpee. Cop put on his lights and pulled me over as I was pulling into the lot. First thing he asked me after lic and reg was if i was carrying. I said yeah and gave him my permit. Ran the numbers while at my door. Everything came up clear and he said have a nice night. Didnt even tell me why he pulled me over lol. Ill ask one of my ct cop buddies if the pistol permit shows up when they run the plate. Pretty certain that they can tell if you had applied for a permit or not. So they may have inferred on that clue. Firearms that are "registered" to you are in a different database, and as mentioned, may not be connected. Anyways, I'm not big on trying to make a big point to the officer that I'm a responsible ccw'er. 10 to 1, he wants to get the stop over with as much as I do so they can go pull over someone worth pulling over. If he wants to play mister detectivepants, then he can waste all the time he wants figuring out that he has nothing on me. I don't want to get into even a friendly discussion about guns with cops. I swear they get all their gun info from gun magazines  (Whoo Kimber A+ )
I don't care what they think of CCW or 2A. I don't need to make them "feel safer" and cuddle them with volunteered info until they are completely pacified in my presence. ("By the way officer, I have a bunch of completely LEGAL perscriptions in the car as well!  Wanna run them too? Just to make sure they are kosher?" )
I don't want a cop, or anyone else, handling my loaded guns. (Glockleg with YOUR gun, just not MY gun, k?  )
I do not want my name, address, permit number, social serial number, and list of guns that I own rattled-off on the air. (please, my wife listens to the scanner and doesn't know I have guns  )
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Most likely the dispatcher will notify the officer once your license plate is run through the system (before he approaches vehicle). Unless something has recently changed there is no link between databases. A DMV check in CT will NOT provide a indication of a gun permit. I was pulled over on Main St in Manchester last summer one night after the movies got out on my way to the 711 for a slurpee. Cop put on his lights and pulled me over as I was pulling into the lot. First thing he asked me after lic and reg was if i was carrying. I said yeah and gave him my permit. Ran the numbers while at my door. Everything came up clear and he said have a nice night. Didnt even tell me why he pulled me over lol. Ill ask one of my ct cop buddies if the pistol permit shows up when they run the plate. Pretty certain that they can tell if you had applied for a permit or not. So they may have inferred on that clue. Firearms that are "registered" to you are in a different database, and as mentioned, may not be connected. Anyways, I'm not big on trying to make a big point to the officer that I'm a responsible ccw'er. 10 to 1, he wants to get the stop over with as much as I do so they can go pull over someone worth pulling over. If he wants to play mister detectivepants, then he can waste all the time he wants figuring out that he has nothing on me. I don't want to get into even a friendly discussion about guns with cops. I swear they get all their gun info from gun magazines (Whoo Kimber A+)
I don't care what they think of CCW or 2A. I don't need to make them "feel safer" and cuddle them with volunteered info until they are completely pacified in my presence. ("By the way officer, I have a bunch of completely LEGAL perscriptions in the car as well! Wanna run them too? Just to make sure they are kosher?")
I don't want a cop, or anyone else, handling my loaded guns. (Glockleg with YOUR gun, just not MY gun, k? )
I do not want my name, address, permit number, social serial number, and list of guns that I own rattled-off on the air. (please, my wife listens to the scanner and doesn't know I have guns )
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The other idea is to distract the officer. A simple redirection of their attention, so to speak. Pulling over a motorist, who is naked with the exception of 30 weight motor oil, a large bag of ball bearings and three live chickens in the passenger seat; a concealed handgun permit will be the least of the officer's worries. does it matter what brand of motor oil? and is 15 weight an acceptable replacement? I've got a few quarts in the garage left over from an older vehicle we no longer own.... |
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You won't see me on the streets without something on my body, somewhere. I've been stopped 3 times plus a motor vehicle accident last year all while I was carrying. I'm not that bad of a driver, just this is over 17 years of everyday carry. I've visited with the law in Meriden, Cheshire, Bristol & Wolcott.
Whenever I have the bad luck to visit with the man in blue, I present my drivers & pistol permit when approached. They will always ask, what's the permit for? I then inform them I have a pistol and where it is. In every case, the most I received was a warning. At the traffic accident, the cop said to me, "no one ever done this before".  Each and everytime I was treated with respect by law inforcement. Some didn't care and one cop just told me to just leave leave it where it was with a smile. (The accident wasn't my fault, as a kid blew a stop sign. I had no sign to obey).
I have been told first hand stories in my town of Southington of a hidden right rear officer at a stop, spotting a weapon on the guys hip or in the glove box. The cops have pulled the guy out of his car, (not in a loving way) laid him down face first on the pavement not knowing if he was a good guy or a drug dealer. After they disarm him and prove he's OK with the gun, they brush him off and place him back in his car. The pistol is returned later unloaded.... I like to tell them up front, it makes the stops much more comforting for both sides involved. The cops don't want to get shot, and neither do I. YRMV
edit to add: I ride a Harley at times and I do go shooting with it. 3-4 years ago when the gas was 5.00 a gallon, I asked the locals if it was OK to sling an AR over my back and ride to the club. I was told NO. The 911 lines will light up with some terrorist with a machinegun heading north..... If you must, put it in a violin case. 
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I ride a Harley at times and I do go shooting with it. 3-4 years ago when the gas was 5.00 a gallon, I asked the locals if it was OK to sling an AR over my back and ride to the club. I was told NO. The 911 lines will light up with some terrorist with a machinegun heading north..... If you must, put it in a violin case.
I don't get it,i'd give you thumbs up!
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You won't see me on the streets without something on my body, somewhere. I've been stopped 3 times plus a motor vehicle accident last year all while I was carrying. I'm not that bad of a driver, just this is over 17 years of everyday carry. I've visited with the law in Meriden, Cheshire, Bristol & Wolcott. Whenever I have the bad luck to visit with the man in blue, I present my drivers & pistol permit when approached. They will always ask, what's the permit for? I then inform them I have a pistol and where it is. In every case, the most I received was a warning. At the traffic accident, the cop said to me, "no one ever done this before". Each and everytime I was treated with respect by law inforcement. Some didn't care and one cop just told me to just leave leave it where it was with a smile. (The accident wasn't my fault, as a kid blew a stop sign. I had no sign to obey).
I have been told first hand stories in my town of Southington of a hidden right rear officer at a stop, spotting a weapon on the guys hip or in the glove box. The cops have pulled the guy out of his car, (not in a loving way) laid him down face first on the pavement not knowing if he was a good guy or a drug dealer. After they disarm him and prove he's OK with the gun, they brush him off and place him back in his car. The pistol is returned later unloaded.... I like to tell them up front, it makes the stops much more comforting for both sides involved. The cops don't want to get shot, and neither do I. YRMV
edit to add: I ride a Harley at times and I do go shooting with it. 3-4 years ago when the gas was 5.00 a gallon, I asked the locals if it was OK to sling an AR over my back and ride to the club. I was told NO. The 911 lines will light up with some terrorist with a machinegun heading north..... If you must, put it in a violin case.
When was gas $5 a gallon here in Ct? |
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Quoted: You won't see me on the streets without something on my body, somewhere. I've been stopped 3 times plus a motor vehicle accident last year all while I was carrying. I'm not that bad of a driver, just this is over 17 years of everyday carry. I've visited with the law in Meriden, Cheshire, Bristol & Wolcott. Whenever I have the bad luck to visit with the man in blue, I present my drivers & pistol permit when approached. They will always ask, what's the permit for? I then inform them I have a pistol and where it is. In every case, the most I received was a warning. At the traffic accident, the cop said to me, "no one ever done this before". Each and everytime I was treated with respect by law inforcement. Some didn't care and one cop just told me to just leave leave it where it was with a smile. (The accident wasn't my fault, as a kid blew a stop sign. I had no sign to obey).I have been told first hand stories in my town of Southington of a hidden right rear officer at a stop, spotting a weapon on the guys hip or in the glove box. The cops have pulled the guy out of his car, (not in a loving way) laid him down face first on the pavement not knowing if he was a good guy or a drug dealer. After they disarm him and prove he's OK with the gun, they brush him off and place him back in his car. The pistol is returned later unloaded.... I like to tell them up front, it makes the stops much more comforting for both sides involved. The cops don't want to get shot, and neither do I. YRMV edit to add: I ride a Harley at times and I do go shooting with it. 3-4 years ago when the gas was 5.00 a gallon, I asked the locals if it was OK to sling an AR over my back and ride to the club. I was told NO. The 911 lines will light up with some terrorist with a machinegun heading north..... If you must, put it in a violin case. But you still did it....  |
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When was gas $5 a gallon here in Ct? Don't you remember the last year with Bush? I think the cheapest was about 4.90. The finer places were over. I could fill the bike up for 15 bucks and that year I swear I was spending 25-30 bucks. I can't run 87 either which sucks that much more. On July 11, 2008 Oil was $145.08 a barrel www.nyse.tv/nymex-crude-oil-price-history-chart.htm |
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http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/basp2005/f85232a7c761a381f043354612b2f719.jpg Quick, call 911. That guy must be a terrorist! Look he has a machinegun!
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When was gas $5 a gallon here in Ct? Don't you remember the last year with Bush? I think the cheapest was about 4.90. The finer places were over. I could fill the bike up for 15 bucks and that year I swear I was spending 25-30 bucks. I can't run 87 either which sucks that much more. On July 11, 2008 Oil was $145.08 a barrel www.nyse.tv/nymex-crude-oil-price-history-chart.htm I don't remember gas prices ever hitting $5- , $ 4 and some change yes but never $5. www.connecticutgasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx |
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Your link doesn't seem right. But maybe I'm loosing it. but damn I could swear the fuel was higher when Bush was getting out. You know, he had to pay all his buddies off before he left office.. Another reason the democaps won. Oil man to oil man handshake, wink wink.
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Your link doesn't seem right. But maybe I'm loosing it. but damn I could swear the fuel was higher when Bush was getting out. You know, he had to pay all his buddies off before he left office.. Another reason the democaps won. Oil man to oil man handshake, wink wink. and then they elected Obama and gas really got expensive but no one seemed to care cause it was Bush's fault! |
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Your link doesn't seem right. But maybe I'm loosing it. but damn I could swear the fuel was higher when Bush was getting out. You know, he had to pay all his buddies off before he left office.. Another reason the democaps won. Oil man to oil man handshake, wink wink. No. |
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Ironic, I was reading this when I heard gunshots behind my house (at the neighbors house). I went to investigate and took my NAA mini revolver. So I go out and all I hear are the neighbors behind me talking. My wife called another neighbor who lives next to where we think the shots came from to make sure they were okay. The neighbor and her kids were freaked out so I got in the car to drive around the road to check things out. As I come to the end of the road (after I pass the house where the gun shots came from) the state police pulled in. They stopped me and asked what I was doing and if I was armed, I said yes and was promptly cuffed and questioned. I was held for about 20 minutes, while my permit and gun were run. Giving my neighbors time to get their shit together and hidden (you're welcome).
I was surprised to hear the trooper say my neighbor has guns and they need to check them out. Apparently the cops DO have access to our firearm records. They also asked me if I had any other handguns registered to me. I was shocked, didnt know they had access to that info.
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Quoted: Ironic, I was reading this when I heard gunshots behind my house (at the neighbors house). I went to investigate and took my NAA mini revolver. So I go out and all I hear are the neighbors behind me talking. My wife called another neighbor who lives next to where we think the shots came from to make sure they were okay. The neighbor and her kids were freaked out so I got in the car to drive around the road to check things out. As I come to the end of the road (after I pass the house where the gun shots came from) the state police pulled in. They stopped me and asked what I was doing and if I was armed, I said yes and was promptly cuffed and questioned. I was held for about 20 minutes, while my permit and gun were run. Giving my neighbors time to get their shit together and hidden (you're welcome). I was surprised to hear the trooper say my neighbor has guns and they need to check them out. Apparently the cops DO have access to our firearm records. They also asked me if I had any other handguns registered to me. I was shocked, didnt know they had access to that info. And this is why you shouldn't keep them all under the same roof if you can help it ... |
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Dispatcher Doesn't know if you are a Permit Holder or if you are armed Bull Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, FALSE RUMORS!!!!! I'll hit the record button next time it runs on the scanner.
"Unit X, RO applied for pistol permit in x month of x year" Perhaps this is an in-house only thing? They know what permits are applied in their town? Then again, on responses to domestics, the Dispatcher happily reads off the guy's "registered" firearms. Found out two guys on my old street had MG's that way. One had an M-16. The guy with the M-16 put a hole in his head before I could make friends with him though .
The only rumors that should be out there should be concerning what happens if I'm pulled over with legally carried or transported firearms that are not "registered" to me according to the guy behind the mic back at the station... If I am carrying an inherited P-08 German luger, what happens? There are no papers on it, it is not registered, but it is mine. Grandpa left those papers on some dead Nazi back in Europe. |
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Hold on here guys. Are you saying the police have access to the info contained in those DPS-3-c forms? Who woulda thunk it? Someone get the "no shit Sherlock" trophy engraved and ready for presentation. DPS can't even get their DPS-3 records straight. They should have no business holding us responsible when they can't get their own house in order. |
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The permits don't come up to the best of my knowledge, in most towns, so far
Some departments may be linked with DPS, but it's not statewide, to the best of my knowledge, I could ask if you like me to. I have a brother that is retired police officer and 2 in the family who are 911 dispatchers. It gets better... If they are told to they can find out nearly anything they need to know about you. There is a FBI computer system called the NCIC system. Anyone who is fingerprinted is in the system. Any item stolen like a car or firearm is in the system. They expanded the reasons to gather info on us after 911. If you purchase a gun it's in the system believe it or not! They must have a good reason to log into the system, it's recorded and so on, but if you are arrested they may check on the fed system to see what other info they may need or other warrants etc. Every gun I ever bought thru a store is on them damn files. I know because when my wife went on the system for training, she used my name. There was several pages of info on there and I never been arrested! Read about that system here, though it's worse than they report.....Big brother is watching with both eyes wide open. There is no place to hide. http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm |
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It looks like an arrest is not needed to be in those files...
1. Individuals who have been fingerprinted and whose criminal history
record information has been obtained. I forget the pistol permit process...I think I was fingerprinted..can't remember it's been too long. However applied for any Class III items? Welcome to the list
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Apparently the cops DO have access to our firearm records. They also asked me if I had any other handguns registered to me. Well which is it? I think they were trying to see if I would lie. I was actually kinda nervous because the gun I was carrying was given to me by my father years ago, no paperwork filed. Dad has been dead for years now and always wondered what would happen if the serial number was run through the system. Apparently nothing, they didn't say a word about it. |
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Hold on here guys. Are you saying the police have access to the info contained in those DPS-3-c forms? Who woulda thunk it? Someone get the "no shit Sherlock" trophy engraved and ready for presentation. Thanks, I'll be waiting for my trophy.
I don' know where the forms go after I fill them out. I sure didn't know anyone's private collection would be blurted out over the radio for anyone with a scanner to hear. I guess you can send me a "naive dumbass" award too. 
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| I just called my brother, he is a police dispatcher in town on Southington. On traffic stops the pistol permit will not show up. The vehicle information, such as reg & insurance show and driver info such as drivers licence and if any warrants are out for the driver. They can find out on another screen if you have a pistol permit, but that is another step they normaly don't do unless asked. |
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My brother was pulled over once for rolling through a stop sign IIRC. When he pulled out his wallet and gave the cop his license, the cop noticed the Pistol Permit under the license and recognized it. He immediately asked if my brother was carrying (which he wasn't at the time) and my brother said no. The cop went back to his car, did what he had to do, and came back with a verbal warning.
I am going for my class in a week to get my permit. If I do get pulled over, I will tell the cop if I am carrying and where the gun is, as I do not want him to think I am reaching for a gun. The last thing I want to do is reach over to the glove-box, have the handle imprint, and get pulled out the window, or get a loaded gun pointed at me. |
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Quoted:I am going for my class in a week to get my permit. If I do get pulled over, I will tell the cop if I am carrying and where the gun is, as I do not want him to think I am reaching for a gun. The last thing I want to do is reach over to the glove-box, have the handle imprint, and get pulled out the window, or get a loaded gun pointed at me.
BlindFaith, do you already have your CT Pistol Permit? It appears per your wording "I am going for my class in a week to get my permit" that you do not have your CT pistol permit but that you might be conceal carrying a handgun with the text "have the handle imprint" while driving to your class. Note that without a permit carrying a handgun outside of the home is illegal, except for a few specific reasons like "formal pistol or revolver training". Even then you have to transport the firearm "unloaded and, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle, is not readily accessible or directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle or, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle that does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, such pistol or revolver shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console". |
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If the pistol does not come back as stolen and you have not committed a crime, the police would give you back your P-08 Luger. It is perfectly legal to own a handgun here in ct that has not been registered with the police- In Ny it would be a different story.
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Dispatcher Doesn't know if you are a Permit Holder or if you are armed Bull Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, FALSE RUMORS!!!!! I'll hit the record button next time it runs on the scanner.
"Unit X, RO applied for pistol permit in x month of x year" Perhaps this is an in-house only thing? They know what permits are applied in their town? Then again, on responses to domestics, the Dispatcher happily reads off the guy's "registered" firearms. Found out two guys on my old street had MG's that way. One had an M-16. The guy with the M-16 put a hole in his head before I could make friends with him though .
The only rumors that should be out there should be concerning what happens if I'm pulled over with legally carried or transported firearms that are not "registered" to me according to the guy behind the mic back at the station... If I am carrying an inherited P-08 German luger, what happens? There are no papers on it, it is not registered, but it is mine. Grandpa left those papers on some dead Nazi back in Europe. |
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I used to inform the officer that I was carrying until that created a giant problem in New Haven. Long story short, cop freaked out, Lt showed up and apologized for other officers behavior. He gave me my pistol back and I was on my merry way. If I dont have to get out of the car, I dont mention pistols or pistol permits. If I have to get out then I inform but not before they ask me to step out. I have never received a ticket in Ct for a motor vehicle infraction........ever!
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I just called my brother, he is a police dispatcher in town on Southington. On traffic stops the pistol permit will not show up. The vehicle information, such as reg & insurance show and driver info such as drivers licence and if any warrants are out for the driver. They can find out on another screen if you have a pistol permit, but that is another step they normaly don't do unless asked. BINGO! |
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BlindFaith, do you already have your CT Pistol Permit? It appears per your wording "I am going for my class in a week to get my permit" that you do not have your CT pistol permit but that you might be conceal carrying a handgun with the text "have the handle imprint" while driving to your class. Note that without a permit carrying a handgun outside of the home is illegal, except for a few specific reasons like "formal pistol or revolver training". Even then you have to transport the firearm "unloaded and, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle, is not readily accessible or directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle or, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle that does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, such pistol or revolver shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console". I think (hope!) that he meant to say that if he is pulled over while carrying AFTER getting his permit. |
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Quoted:I am going for my class in a week to get my permit. If I do get pulled over, I will tell the cop if I am carrying and where the gun is, as I do not want him to think I am reaching for a gun. The last thing I want to do is reach over to the glove-box, have the handle imprint, and get pulled out the window, or get a loaded gun pointed at me.
BlindFaith, do you already have your CT Pistol Permit? It appears per your wording "I am going for my class in a week to get my permit" that you do not have your CT pistol permit but that you might be conceal carrying a handgun with the text "have the handle imprint" while driving to your class. Note that without a permit carrying a handgun outside of the home is illegal, except for a few specific reasons like "formal pistol or revolver training". Even then you have to transport the firearm "unloaded and, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle, is not readily accessible or directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle or, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle that does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, such pistol or revolver shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console". I think (hope!) that he meant to say that if he is pulled over while carrying AFTER getting his permit. Yes, I meant that when I carry AFTER I get my permit, that I dont want to run into said situation. The only thing that I own right now is a 22 Mag rifle, and a 12 Gauge Benelli. No handguns / revolvers yet. |
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BlindFaith, do you already have your CT Pistol Permit? It appears per your wording "I am going for my class in a week to get my permit" that you do not have your CT pistol permit but that you might be conceal carrying a handgun with the text "have the handle imprint" while driving to your class. Note that without a permit carrying a handgun outside of the home is illegal, except for a few specific reasons like "formal pistol or revolver training". Even then you have to transport the firearm "unloaded and, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle, is not readily accessible or directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle or, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle that does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, such pistol or revolver shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console". I think (hope!) that he meant to say that if he is pulled over while carrying AFTER getting his permit. Yes, I meant that when I carry AFTER I get my permit, that I dont want to run into said situation. The only thing that I own right now is a 22 Mag rifle, and a 12 Gauge Benelli. No handguns / revolvers yet. Thanks for the clarification. I assumed that's what you meant but figured I'd double check to make sure. Some people I know thought they could carry to a range a handgun if they didn't have their CT permit (they moved into the state with handguns and never bothered to get a permit). Turned out one of them had apparently (per their claim) been shooting their handguns on their friends land upstate CT and they didn't have their permit at the time.
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My brother in law is a New Haven dectective, he told me to absolutely inform the officer first that you have a permit, then that you are carrying, where, and what.
I called the State Dept. of Public Safety, they told me exactly the same thing. Now I know the letter of the law may say we don't have to, but what get's me is that most LEO's don't know that. Then what happens? I also know that when you call the DPS you'll get a different answer depending on who you talk to. I once sold an old SKS pre-ban with the removeable 30rnd mags. The guy who bought it had it stolen from his house in Hamden. Guess who they call about the rifle?? It was a Detective Nutcher, turns out I knew his brother but still, I remember him saying, 'Mr. Stock it shows here that you own a hell of a lot of firearms....why is that?" That is word for word. Now I've gone through gun collections a couple times, stocked up, sold some, etc. Turns out that even when I have done a private sale, with the state where I call in from my house and do all the forms to transfer, that even the guns I sold were still on the registry as belonging to me. So now I guess there are two of the same guns in the state? That's as dumb as a box of hammers. I think back then I had maybe 25 handguns, and 15 rifles? Maybe? Now it's about 15 handguns, and 25 rifles if you count lower recievers. I get profiled a lot, I'm heavily tattooed, but I am also a professional Social Worker, homeowner, Father, Husband, etc. If a police officer pulls me over, I'm going to state calmly that I have a permit, and that I have a loaded Sig on my right hip, "How would you like me to proceeed?" I seem to remember an article by Massad Ayoob where he stated the same thing, and made a good argument why it was safe procedure to inform LEO's when carrying concealed. I also used to work at a coffe house in New Haven years ago, we had about 20 cops in there every day, I went shooting with a some of them, they all said that they wanted to be informed about concealed firearms. God forbid you get asked to come out of the car and get patted down for any reason, but that's me. More power to you if you know the lettter of the law and want to follow it that way, to me it's a courtesy, but I see it from an LEO's side as well. |
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My brother in law is a New Haven dectective, he told me to absolutely inform the officer first that you have a permit, then that you are carrying, where, and what. I called the State Dept. of Public Safety, they told me exactly the same thing. 9 out of 10 dentists agree that the majority of troopers in SLFU don't know WTF they are talking about. Now I know the letter of the law may say we don't have to, but what get's me is that most LEO's don't know that. Then what happens?
What charge would they stick you with if you choose to not disclose that you are lawfully carrying a concealed handgun? Felony Mopery? I also used to work at a coffe house in New Haven years ago, we had about 20 cops in there every day, I went shooting with a some of them, they all said that they wanted to be informed about concealed firearms. God forbid you get asked to come out of the car and get patted down for any reason, but that's me. More power to you if you know the lettter of the law and want to follow it that way, to me it's a courtesy, but I see it from an LEO's side as well.
I know a shit ton of cops. Most good, some lousy. The good ones will tell you that it their *opinion* and consider it *a courtesy* to be informed that you are carrying. Also, these good ones will extend some courtesy in kind. The lousy ones make up laws on the side of the road because they are fucking idiots. Too bad we can't tell the good ones from the idiots when the overheads turn on... |
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I know a shit ton of cops. Most good, some lousy. The good ones will tell you that it their *opinion* and consider it *a courtesy* to be informed that you are carrying. Also, these good ones will extend some courtesy in kind. The lousy ones make up laws on the side of the road because they are fucking idiots.
Too bad we can't tell the good ones from the idiots when the overheads turn on... That's more the reason to put the pedal to the metal and out run them. No confrontation with the police = no need to explain that you are carrying.  
YMMV....a lot. |