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8/30/2011 6:02:46 AM EDT
Following from experience last year, I thought I'd try something a bit heavier than the 55gn DN stuff I was shooting which struggled in wind a bit at longer distances.



Lyman #49 suggest an 'accuracy' load for 75Gn A-Max with 25.6Gn (from memory) of Varget (which is helpful since I have quite a bit of Varget). The obvious thing to do is try it and see, though I wondered whether my Bar-15 barrel might be a bit short @ 15-and-a-bit inches ?




(N.B. I don't want to get too hung up on this and spend all my time developing loads... compared to what I've been shooting just a heavier bullet will be a good start - I'd like to find something and stick with it!)









8/30/2011 6:09:54 AM EDT
[#1]
What twist rate barrel do you have?  That will be a major influence on which bullets you can use...
8/30/2011 6:16:27 AM EDT
[#2]
yes, sorry.. 1:8 I believe  (Mark? - correct me if I'm wrong and you can remember).
8/30/2011 6:24:57 AM EDT
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Quoted:
yes, sorry.. 1:8 I believe  (Mark? - correct me if I'm wrong and you can remember).


Yes but A-Max's are not mag length bullets.

Try Sierra's 69 or 77gn offerings, Hornady's 75gn HPBTM or Berger's 73gn LTB
8/30/2011 6:48:14 AM EDT
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Quoted:

yes, sorry.. 1:8 I believe  (Mark? - correct me if I'm wrong and you can remember).




Yes but A-Max's are not mag length bullets.



Try Sierra's 69 or 77gn offerings, Hornady's 75gn HPBTM or Berger's 73gn LTB


OK that's good to have been told that before I bought some - thanks. I'll try some HPBTs

 
8/30/2011 8:23:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Apparently A-Max bullets are not allowed for Target Shooting in Devon and Cornwall as they are now deemed to be 'Expanding' so need to be entered on your FAC.
8/30/2011 11:19:00 AM EDT
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Apparently A-Max bullets are not allowed for Target Shooting in Devon and Cornwall as they are now deemed to be 'Expanding' so need to be entered on your FAC.


 so that'll be tungsten, steel core or solid copper only then?



If anything its the other way around... I know that some people do use A-max for varminting (there is I am told a couple of thou in the jacket, makes no difference in practice so they say).. but Hornaday actually advise against it... I think the hint is 'A' for accuracy, 'V' for varmint?




Arbritrary uninformed decision making at its best. Devon and Cornwall get D for dunce.




Some time spent on the throne with Lymans this evening, I'm set for 69Gn Match kings and 24Gns of Varget I think; we'll see how we go from there.
8/30/2011 12:33:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Sierra's load data for 69 gr. HPBT MatchKing based on a 20" 1:7 twist

Powder /Velocity 2500  2600  2700   2750   2800   2850
Varget                 23.3   24.1   24.9     25.3    25.7    26.1(max load)

accuracy load they say is 25.3g

8/30/2011 12:52:42 PM EDT
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Quoted:


Apparently A-Max bullets are not allowed for Target Shooting in Devon and Cornwall as they are now deemed to be 'Expanding' so need to be entered on your FAC.


True enough, found that out at Helston Gunsmiths a while ago

 
8/30/2011 11:54:12 PM EDT
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Quoted:

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Apparently A-Max bullets are not allowed for Target Shooting in Devon and Cornwall as they are now deemed to be 'Expanding' so need to be entered on your FAC.

True enough, found that out at Helston Gunsmiths a while ago  


Unfortunately Hornady have put on their website that the A-Max have "rapid, explosive expansion properties" then they go on to say "These bullets are not recommended for hunting medium and large game." So just hunting varmints for which they already have the V-Max.

If they'd stopped with "Designed by match shooters for match shooters" which "delivers flat trajectories with excellent uniformity and concentricity" it would have been ok.

I don't suppose they'll lose much sleep over the orders from the UK that won't now be happening.