Posted: 6/4/2008 3:38:42 PM EDT
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...start a political party? Would one need a business license, not-for-profit, for profit, LLC, what? I'm just curious at this point... |
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You can build your own battleship and be the captain but it is very expensive and something only nation states do, it is much easier to take over the helm of a existing ship. Everybody needs to file for PCO for their precinct before friday, so we can take the GOP from the communazis. |
I want nothing to do with either mainstream party. You can defile yourself with the Republicans if you wish, but please do it in another thread. |
I can find nothing to disagree with in this post. 
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I suspect we both know the CP will not adhere to "the original intent" of the Founders...in at least one, crucial, respect. However, forum rules prohibit discussion of this.
The Constitution, by lacking basic understanding/applications of health care, education, and even the most primitive forms of environmental protections, demonstrates that it was written in the 18th century; it needs to be updated to modern levels of knowledge or abolished. A Party that tries to make reality conform to the USC --rather than the other way around--is likewise antiquated.
Overall, a good foreign policy--however, why do we have to "compete" with other countries? This unstated assumption is wrong; our farmers need not compete with other farmers...we grow our own food; we make our own products. Any surplus we have could be bartered/sold on the international market to obtain whatever goods we need, but cannot produce ourselves.
Good.
I would put far more restrictions on "precondition of citizenship"--again we run into Forum Rules. Suffice to say that merely the ability to speak English isn't good enough to allow someone those most important rights of citizenship--the vote, the right to agitate, and the right to bear arms.
The 50 states are also a product of the 18th century--and are no longer needed. I believe it'd be better to re-align the States in accordance with the realities of local/regional needs. (ie, western WA -v- eastern WA, etc) The current 50 individual States serve no useful purpose to either the people who reside in them, or to the Union. So, now having said that, it is *extremely* unlikely that any party that I devise would gain political power...and in truth, it's not for that lofty goal that I would organize one. (Although that would be a good thing, if it happened  ) No, the purpose would be to awaken Americans to a better way of doing things than just looking at The Almighty Dollar, The Biggest F**ing House, and the Coolest Toys.It seems to me that the Constitution Party is simply re-packaging the same kind of materialism that the Dems and Reps sell, but in a "let's return to our roots" form. Unless the entire perception of "America/the US" changes, we will continue on the path to destruction. |
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Government devised by men will manifest the flaws of those men that designed it, Natural law has been proven effective by the experience of history and why a good part of the constitution was based on it, the major flaw of the constitution is it coppied too much from the British system and human designs. You say you will not soil yourself trying to take the Republican party back and yet the alternative is to be ruled by evil men. I know the system is broken at it's very foundation but then all law is when left the black letter interpretation. Can't speak to the rest of the nation but here in Washington state we can and do have the ability to make the republican party a true conservative freedom protecting body. I was a delegate to the state convention for Ron Paul, I know there is no political solution to the problems our country now faces but the political system can not be abandoned just because it appears useless, it is not useless, there are many good policy and political strategists in the system and that are needed to keep the peace once won by the militia, for America is unique in the world for having created peace through war where nations like France only got worse after their revolution. Society is like a wagon with four wheels, it needs a economic wheel, a political wheel, a justice wheel and a FORCE wheel the MILITIA. A body has many members but not all the members the same function, we need all four wheels on the wagon. "Gaurd with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people!" - Patrick Henry |
False logic; also known as a "black and white fallacy." It is my position that the Republicans (as a party) *are* just as evil as the Democrats. Winning over a party which is, itself, dedicated to evil ends is not productive.
All things made by Man is subject to corruption/evil; to minimize its effects we must do all we can to aknowledge this. For starters, we might recognize what is "evil" and what is not, and proceed from there...rather than doing a nip-and-tuck approach. YMMV of course, and I wish you well in your endeavors; I will consider other options.
iirc, the title of this thread is "How do I go about making a political party." Doesn't sound like I've abandoned the political process... France, and Europe in general, got worse because of the nature of their revolutions--which were proto-Marxist in nature and process.
For the Militia to work, one has to promote the idea that "conflict is sometimes necessary, yet such conflict needs to be only for the survival and well-being of the nation." I agree with this; however no party wishes to promote this idea, because it is not "politically correct" to do so. In addition, your description of society "as a wagon" is very apt; you described the wheels, now how about the wagon? When one ties society's elements together, whether to a wagon or with a cord, one is describing a fascist society. Most people don't know what "fascism" means; the fasciis (symbol of fascism) is a bundle of sticks, surrounding an ax; the ax of course is militarism/militia-ism. Today we have a neo-fascist society, but instead of an ax there is an olive branch (or is it hemlock?)
With all due respect, the time for an armed revolution was many decades ago. Even if such a thing were to be tried today, if it were to have any hope of succeeding it would require men (and women) who are willing to stand up for what is right, and risk losing all they have. This would be not only in the arena of combat, but also in recruiting and education. We would need people who would dare to broach several "taboo" subjects, if we are to keep the idea of Liberty alive. That's one of the reasons I'm looking at forming a "political party"--to attract those people who ARE willing to risk "their lives, fortunes, and honor", regardless of the presumed glories of battle. Back on topic-- Since you have some experience with proper political parties, could you tell me something of their organization/structure? What form of structure do they have? Sole Proprietorship General Partnership Limited Partnership Limited Liability Partnership (LLP) Corporation Limited Liability Company (LLC) Does the party follow national directives to-the-letter? How much leeway do they have in responding to local conditions? Who determines the party's "platform"? Are there corporate/executive officers? |
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Crap, I thought I was in the nudie bar thread...wtf happened?! AHa, here it is So what does one do |
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A true political party is organized to serve the interests of the living souls comprising the body, a state is really we the people, confusion comes in when "we the people" is not seen as an individual soul but confused with a legal entity, artificial and fictitious abstract. The parties as they are presently comprised are corporations = legal entities but not living breathing souls with a mind that can reason. The only pure party would be formed according to natural law Lex non Scripta. |