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6/17/2012 11:12:31 AM EDT
yea yea I know...dumb question. But a guy I work with is an avid hunter, he is reliable, and not prone to panic. He was out hunting a few months ago and he came up on some NJ Wildlife people. They were unnloading some coyotes into the woods off 206. He came accross a dead one later, it had a tag identifing it as raised in Texas, and a coyote-wolf hybrid. That rang a bell for me   as they were putting in a water line near my house and one of the workers told me he saw a coyote. I have heard them on many mornings, have friends around town that have seen them.....only this is 1pm and it is standing there bold as all hell....at least 80 pounds.  So they brought back bears, timber rattlers, what is next? Maybe we need some mountain lions? Oh they had one in Waterford works last year....
6/17/2012 11:59:28 AM EDT
[#1]
I wish they would stock mountain lions in Trenton
6/17/2012 12:59:28 PM EDT
[#2]
if you are in sussex county...yea, they did bring mountain lions back...I have seen one in FRANKLIN! and i live in the middle of the town!
coyotes...black bears, rattlesnakes....seen all of them in my yard..... this year....
the snake got mowed, they shot the bear earlier when they had the hunt and the coyote hasn't been back.
6/17/2012 1:32:36 PM EDT
[#3]
I was hoping it was to thin the population of city folks? Oh that is pretty dog....go pat the pretty dog....grrrrrrrrrrrrr
6/17/2012 3:47:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Coyotes and Black Bears are very much overpopulated in New Jersey. The bear hunt has been helping with the problem but it has to be consistent. Having one every other year does not help. With that, only every other generation of bears are killed off. It is a very messed up situation but hopefully will get better with a hunt each year. As for coyotes, the season has to be fixed. The season as of now only allows hunters to use t shot. Coyotes are hard enough to kill with buckshot and rifles but yet the state still does not allow us to use them. They have to do something with the coyote population soon or else we won't have anymore rabbits, turkey, deer, etc. to hunt.
6/17/2012 6:27:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Yup, I even heard Allstate was financing this but just a rumor.

The deer population has been droping due to the young becoming chow for the coyotes.

I guess we need some hikers to get attacked before it becomes a front burner issue.

RW3
6/17/2012 6:46:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Um what about mountain lions in waterford??
6/18/2012 4:54:44 AM EDT
[#7]
True story -
I live in central NJ. This past winter, someone nailed a big doe in the street just past our house. Just next to my house is a series of farm fields. About a week after this thing was hit, it disappeared off of the side of the road. I assumed the township came and cleaned it up.

A couple of days later I was walking my dogs in the fields next to my house and came across the deer carcass. It had been dragged off of the side of the road through a small patch of woods and about 30-40' into the field and completely gutted. You can see where the ribs were literally gnawed off in some sports. I actually took pics. Now this was a big doe and must have been heavy. I really don't know what the hell could have done that...? I was thinking either a bear or maybe a couple of coyotes, but who knows. I'm told that coyotes are spotted here from time to time though I've never seen one.
6/18/2012 6:09:20 AM EDT
[#8]
I don't know.  I can't explain it.  Therefore, it absolutely must have been space aliens.  Either space aliens, or the Jersey Devil.
6/18/2012 6:33:51 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
yea yea I know...dumb question. But a guy I work with is an avid hunter, he is reliable, and not prone to panic. He was out hunting a few months ago and he came up on some NJ Wildlife people. They were unnloading some coyotes into the woods off 206. He came accross a dead one later, it had a tag identifing it as raised in Texas, and a coyote-wolf hybrid. That rang a bell for me   as they were putting in a water line near my house and one of the workers told me he saw a coyote. I have heard them on many mornings, have friends around town that have seen them.....only this is 1pm and it is standing there bold as all hell....at least 80 pounds.  So they brought back bears, timber rattlers, what is next? Maybe we need some mountain lions? Oh they had one in Waterford works last year....


I doubt your friend stumbled upon a covert operation to increase the coyote population in NJ.  I think it is more likely that the wildlife officials were simply relocating coyotes that were trapped elsewhere in the state.    

Also, hybrids are generally sterile.  The myth of wolves interbreeding with the coyote population and creating a new breed of super-coyote is FUD.  i.e., you can breed a horse and a donkey to produce a mule, but you can never breed your mule.  

My guess, some douche bag thought it would be cool to own a wolf/coyote hybrid and bought one from a breeder in TX.  They either realized that it made a lousy pet and released it or it escaped.  It was subsequently trapped and relocated to your neighborhood.  But who knows.  

About 5 years ago, I saw a big male coyote rambling down the middle of Crispin Rd like he owned the place: not afraid of anything and looking for something to f––-up.  Back growing up in OH, no coyote would have come within a half mile of a housing development and certainly would never walk down the middle of a road.
6/18/2012 10:16:32 AM EDT
[#10]
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I don't know.  I can't explain it.  Therefore, it absolutely must have been space aliens.  Either space aliens, or the Jersey Devil.


I'm going with a Jersey Devil/Alien hybrid.
I'm so screwed.
Time to lock and load!!!
6/18/2012 10:29:45 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
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I don't know.  I can't explain it.  Therefore, it absolutely must have been space aliens.  Either space aliens, or the Jersey Devil.


I'm going with a Jersey Devil/Alien hybrid.
I'm so screwed.
Time to lock and load!!!


What round for Jersey Devil/Alien hybrid?
6/18/2012 11:00:16 AM EDT
[#12]
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Quoted:
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I don't know.  I can't explain it.  Therefore, it absolutely must have been space aliens.  Either space aliens, or the Jersey Devil.


I'm going with a Jersey Devil/Alien hybrid.
I'm so screwed.
Time to lock and load!!!


What round for Jersey Devil/Alien hybrid?


That would be .375 RUM.
6/18/2012 11:39:55 AM EDT
[#13]
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I don't know.  I can't explain it.  Therefore, it absolutely must have been space aliens.  Either space aliens, or the Jersey Devil.


I'm going with a Jersey Devil/Alien hybrid.
I'm so screwed.
Time to lock and load!!!


What round for Jersey Devil/Alien hybrid?


Off the top of my head I'd say 15,000 kilotons launched from orbit...
6/18/2012 1:36:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Yep, there's coyotes here. I saw one strung up next to deer at the Buck Hunt Club off of Rt.50 some years ago.
It looked like the big bad wolf to me
6/18/2012 8:37:42 PM EDT
[#15]
Donatalo it was uniformed state officers releasing them, and the coyotes here are coming right up to houses
6/19/2012 5:08:01 AM EDT
[#16]
i've seen coyotes in the woods down off of 206 before.  I was surprised that they could run at least 30 mph.  I was even more surprised how long it took the one to figure out to dart off the trail rather than getting run over.
6/22/2012 4:32:48 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
yea yea I know...dumb question. But a guy I work with is an avid hunter, he is reliable, and not prone to panic. He was out hunting a few months ago and he came up on some NJ Wildlife people. They were unnloading some coyotes into the woods off 206. He came accross a dead one later, it had a tag identifing it as raised in Texas, and a coyote-wolf hybrid. That rang a bell for me   as they were putting in a water line near my house and one of the workers told me he saw a coyote. I have heard them on many mornings, have friends around town that have seen them.....only this is 1pm and it is standing there bold as all hell....at least 80 pounds.  So they brought back bears, timber rattlers, what is next? Maybe we need some mountain lions? Oh they had one in Waterford works last year....


Which town on 206?
6/22/2012 4:36:48 AM EDT
[#18]
We've had yotes in Paramus. Couple of years ago, some dumb ass HS'er went to pet the "sick" dog - got bit of course.....

My wife's seen a yote or 2 early morning when she walks our dog(s).

6/22/2012 4:41:13 AM EDT
[#19]
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We've had yotes in Paramus. Couple of years ago, some dumb ass HS'er went to pet the "sick" dog - got bit of course.....

My wife's seen a yote or 2 early morning when she walks our dog(s).  

Darwin Award.
6/22/2012 9:30:50 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
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We've had yotes in Paramus. Couple of years ago, some dumb ass HS'er went to pet the "sick" dog - got bit of course.....

My wife's seen a yote or 2 early morning when she walks our dog(s).  

Darwin Award.



Quote:
PARAMUS, N.J. –– A coyote bit a teenager Friday at a New Jersey high school, school officials said.

The Paramus Catholic High School student found the wild animal not far from school just off Paramus Road.

The teen boy told school officials he thought it was a dog run over by a car, so he brought it to school, but instead it was a coyote.


An animal official said coyotes rarely come in contact with humans, but this one did.

Police said the teen apparently was unaware he was dealing with a potentially disease-ridden animal.

School president James P. Vail told NewsChannel 4 that once the teen let officials know, they immediately called the paramedics, who took the student to a hospital.

At this point it's unclear if the coyote had rabies, though officials at Paramus Animal Control said that animal was docile.
There was also a news article in my local paper that said something about the coyote attacking a person's dog and taking it away. It was a small bichon frise (spellin?).

Anyone else hear about this? ....

6/22/2012 11:05:25 AM EDT
[#21]
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We've had yotes in Paramus. Couple of years ago, some dumb ass HS'er went to pet the "sick" dog - got bit of course.....

My wife's seen a yote or 2 early morning when she walks our dog(s).  

Darwin Award.



Quote:
PARAMUS, N.J. –– A coyote bit a teenager Friday at a New Jersey high school, school officials said.

The Paramus Catholic High School student found the wild animal not far from school just off Paramus Road.

The teen boy told school officials he thought it was a dog run over by a car, so he brought it to school, but instead it was a coyote.


An animal official said coyotes rarely come in contact with humans, but this one did.

Police said the teen apparently was unaware he was dealing with a potentially disease-ridden animal.

School president James P. Vail told NewsChannel 4 that once the teen let officials know, they immediately called the paramedics, who took the student to a hospital.

At this point it's unclear if the coyote had rabies, though officials at Paramus Animal Control said that animal was docile.
There was also a news article in my local paper that said something about the coyote attacking a person's dog toy animal and taking it away. It was a small bichon frise(spellin?) foo foo lap rat.

Anyone else hear about this? ....



Fixed your spelling for you.  
6/22/2012 2:39:48 PM EDT
[#22]
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We've had yotes in Paramus. Couple of years ago, some dumb ass HS'er went to pet the "sick" dog - got bit of course.....

My wife's seen a yote or 2 early morning when she walks our dog(s).  

Darwin Award.



Quote:
PARAMUS, N.J. –– A coyote bit a teenager Friday at a New Jersey high school, school officials said.

The Paramus Catholic High School student found the wild animal not far from school just off Paramus Road.

The teen boy told school officials he thought it was a dog run over by a car, so he brought it to school, but instead it was a coyote.


An animal official said coyotes rarely come in contact with humans, but this one did.

Police said the teen apparently was unaware he was dealing with a potentially disease-ridden animal.

School president James P. Vail told NewsChannel 4 that once the teen let officials know, they immediately called the paramedics, who took the student to a hospital.

At this point it's unclear if the coyote had rabies, though officials at Paramus Animal Control said that animal was docile.
There was also a news article in my local paper that said something about the coyote attacking a person's dog toy animal and taking it away. It was a small bichon frise(spellin?) foo foo lap rat.

Anyone else hear about this? ....



Fixed your spelling for you.  


That was a quote from someone other than me, that is why it has double quotes....
6/22/2012 3:52:06 PM EDT
[#23]
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Coyotes and Black Bears are very much overpopulated in New Jersey. The bear hunt has been helping with the problem but it has to be consistent. Having one every other year does not help. With that, only every other generation of bears are killed off. It is a very messed up situation but hopefully will get better with a hunt each year. As for coyotes, the season has to be fixed. The season as of now only allows hunters to use t shot. Coyotes are hard enough to kill with buckshot and rifles but yet the state still does not allow us to use them. They have to do something with the coyote population soon or else we won't have anymore rabbits, turkey, deer, etc. to hunt.


This.....while I wont say we're overrun with them, the Yotes come out of Earle to pick garbage all through my area.
6/23/2012 7:21:28 AM EDT
[#24]
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I wish they would stock mountain lions in Trenton


I like this.

6/25/2012 5:02:44 AM EDT
[#25]
Wind: just to be clear, you're sayin your bud saw state wildlife personnel releasing live coyotes here in NJ? Hard to believe the state would propagate nusance critters....but stranger things have happened.
6/25/2012 5:19:51 AM EDT
[#26]
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Wind: just to be clear, you're sayin your bud saw state wildlife personnel releasing live coyotes here in NJ? Hard to believe the state would propagate nusance critters....but stranger things have happened.



I's for the children.... NJ wants a new form of birth control.
6/25/2012 11:38:52 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
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Wind: just to be clear, you're sayin your bud saw state wildlife personnel releasing live coyotes here in NJ? Hard to believe the state would propagate nusance critters....but stranger things have happened.



I's for the children.... NJ wants a new form of birth control.


"That Coyote Ate my baby???"
6/25/2012 12:58:42 PM EDT
[#28]
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Wind: just to be clear, you're sayin your bud saw state wildlife personnel releasing live coyotes here in NJ? Hard to believe the state would propagate nusance critters....but stranger things have happened.



It's for the children.... NJ wants a new form of birth control.


"That Coyote Ate my baby???"


Yes- It is the after, after abortion.

6/25/2012 4:13:46 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Wind: just to be clear, you're sayin your bud saw state wildlife personnel releasing live coyotes here in NJ? Hard to believe the state would propagate nusance critters....but stranger things have happened.


Easy for me to believe.  Probably trapped in a highly populated area and "relocated" for the public safety.  I imagine it would be quite difficult to get away with destroying the captured so-called "wildlife" and not get destroyed by the animal rights activists.
6/25/2012 8:14:24 PM EDT
[#30]
They weren't relocated, they were bred in Texas
6/25/2012 9:04:53 PM EDT
[#31]
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They weren't relocated, they were bred in Texas


I understand that.  I do not follow the conclusion that NJ is bringing in wolf-coyote hybrids from TX when all you know is:
1. NJ wildlife was releasing coyotes
2. One released coyote had a tag identifying it as bread in TX.

If you saw hoof-prints in NJ, would you conclude that we have zebras?  
All I am saying is: 99% chance your friend witness the release of trapped coyotes.  1% chance your friend witnessed a covert program for importing wolf-coyote hybrids from Texas.
6/26/2012 8:07:33 PM EDT
[#32]
nothing covert, the release animals all the time down  here, we are getting bear sightingins where there are not supposed to be bears, dens of rattlesnakes,