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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 5:12:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Andrapos]
I heard from a guy a work with this week that ATF shut down Jo Jo's Gunsmithing.
That's really bad, now the only smith in Connecticut is Mitch in Fairfield UPDATE 8/21/2024 Jojo's Gunworks LLC JOJO'S GUNWORKS IS OPEN AND BACK TO CUSTOM GUNSMITHING. WE ARE NOW JO-JO'S OUTDOORS LLC . SEE YOU SOON .... {title edit, strikeout edit, update edit.........modrapos} |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 5:54:18 AM EDT
[#1]
Yeah lots of discussion on it over on the CTGuns subreddit almost a month ago.
JoJo’s closed by ATF? |
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Posted: 6/8/2024 6:16:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By T-TAC: I heard from a guy a work with this week that ATF shut down Jo Jo's Gunsmithing. He said they had Alcohol in the shop. That's really bad, now the only smith in Connecticut is Mitch in Fairfield Mitch is closing July- ATF again |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 8:11:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By T-TAC: I heard from a guy a work with this week that ATF shut down Jo Jo's Gunsmithing. He said they had Alcohol in the shop. That's really bad, now the only smith in Connecticut is Mitch in Fairfield Someone was drunk, or is there some law about booze in a gun store? |
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Posted: 6/8/2024 8:23:24 AM EDT
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It’s paperwork related-
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 5:44:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nutter: It’s paperwork related- This is accurate on both counts. Mitch and JoJos. Feds are on the warpath, to make us safer and all……. |
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Posted: 6/8/2024 7:26:21 PM EDT
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ATF is gay
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 8:18:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: group8]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gordo556: ATF is gay https://www.atf.gov/about-atf/celebrating-lgbtqi-pride-month 
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Posted: 6/9/2024 7:09:36 AM EDT
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There was a paperwork issue. ATF currently has a zero tolerance policy, so JoJo's license was revoked. They have been waiting for the new license to come through, and of this past Wednesday June 5, they were still waiting.
Personally knowing both involved (JoJo's & the customer), I can say that it flat out sucks. |
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Posted: 6/9/2024 7:35:29 AM EDT
[#9]
It’s paperwork related
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Posted: 6/9/2024 8:04:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nutter: It’s paperwork related And worth having a drink over 
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Posted: 6/9/2024 9:18:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andrapos: And worth having a drink over There is a lot in there
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Posted: 6/9/2024 2:24:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andrapos: There was a paperwork issue. ATF currently has a zero tolerance policy, so JoJo's license was revoked. They have been waiting for the new license to come through, and of this past Wednesday June 5, they were still waiting. Personally knowing both involved (JoJo's & the customer), I can say that it flat out sucks. Good afternoon. Place is still the same I see. It was indeed a paperwork issue, one gun in particular. Earlier this year, Biden directed the BATF to have a zero tolerance policy regarding amongst other things paperwork and bookkeeping. Little mistakes that once just had to be rectified could be enough to have your FFL revoked. They are not closing. A new FFL for the same location has been applied for. Until that license is granted, there are no sales of guns and anything you want gunsmithed, for now, cannot be the serial numbered part of the gun. For example, they are mounting my thermal sight on my AR. I had to leave the lower home and just give them the upper. Same thing with mounting an RMR on my HK. Only the slide. Once the FFL is approved, it will be business as usual. Again, they are not closed. Just gunsmithing with the restrictions I mentioned above. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2024 3:55:48 PM EDT
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A fly on the wall told me the BATFE approached an individual who was going to "buy into" Jo-Jo's to remedy the problem. The ATF told this individual that if you are in any way a strawman for the current operator we will come down on you hard. Supposedly this individual walked away.
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Posted: 6/9/2024 4:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blaster3094: A fly on the wall told me the BATFE approached an individual who was going to "buy into" Jo-Jo's to remedy the problem. The ATF told this individual that if you are in any way a strawman for the current operator we will come down on you hard. Supposedly this individual walked away. My understanding is when they want you out of the business and they revoke your FFL, they want you out of the businesses and not affiliated in any way. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2024 6:06:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nutter: My understanding is when they want you out of the business and they revoke your FFL, they want you out of the businesses and not affiliated in any way. Not quite true, you cannot have a majority interest anymore for sure, but you cant be excluded unless it is in a deal you agree to for prosecution avoidance. |
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Posted: 6/9/2024 7:18:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conndcj: Good afternoon. Place is still the same I see. .... Some things never seem to change, welcome back  Yes, they are still open and have been doing some custom work for me over the past few weeks. |
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Posted: 6/9/2024 7:36:10 PM EDT
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I have a brand name Dremel (Craftsman brand) and some harbor freight files
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2024 7:41:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nutter: It’s paperwork related- That is the way it is going to be from now on. Nobody can come out clean when the Feds decide it is time for you to go. |
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Posted: 6/9/2024 9:01:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel: I have a brand name Dremel (Craftsman brand) and some harbor freight files You'll need to do one of the following to avoid being loved tenderly: * Only work on your own guns * Perform the work on guns owned by others, at no charge * Refuse to work on any frames or receivers owned by others (slides/barrels & accessories only) * Become a licensed gunsmith * |
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Posted: 6/9/2024 10:34:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andrapos: You'll need to do one of the following to avoid being loved tenderly: * Only work on your own guns * Perform the work on guns owned by others, at no charge * Refuse to work on any frames or receivers owned by others (slides/barrels & accessories only) * Become a licensed gunsmith * Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andrapos: Originally Posted By HappyCamel: I have a brand name Dremel (Craftsman brand) and some harbor freight files You'll need to do one of the following to avoid being loved tenderly: * Only work on your own guns * Perform the work on guns owned by others, at no charge * Refuse to work on any frames or receivers owned by others (slides/barrels & accessories only) * Become a licensed gunsmith *  |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 11:56:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cmandak]
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TONS OF INCORRECT INFO ON HERE AND OTHER FORUMS FROM HEARSAY
1- yes, they are open....... will remain open 2- They are still selling guns that they have in stock, cant order new guns or receive transfers or orders til NEW FFL license comes in ( very soon) 3- YES they still work on guns, right now they are taking appointments for any ginsmith work that has a serial number, slides barrels ect.... still taking in. 4- It was a paperwork issue, no alcohol or any B/S Thet are open, still doing work and selling guns and stuff...... call if you need something done....... |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 3:01:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmandak: TONS OF INCORRECT INFO ON HERE AND OTHER FORUMS FROM HEARSAY 1- yes, they are open....... will remain open 2- They are still selling guns that they have in stock, cant order new guns or receive transfers or orders til NEW FFL license comes in ( very soon) 3- YES they still work on guns, right now they are taking appointments for any ginsmith work that has a serial number, slides barrels ect.... still taking in. 4- It was a paperwork issue, no alcohol or any B/S Thet are open, still doing work and selling guns and stuff...... call if you need something done....... People love to gossip, make things up and create drama. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 5:43:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeOD82: People love to gossip, make things up and create drama. The only gossip here was the booze...........everything else was based on truth |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:13:55 PM EDT
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The only truth was the paperwork issues.
The being closed, them not selling guns or no gunsmithing was NOT TRUE as well... |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:19:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmandak: The only truth was the paperwork issues. The being closed, them not selling guns or no gunsmithing was NOT TRUE as well... well parts were true or partially true........  and no one wants the truth ....... 
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:24:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nutter: well parts were true or partially true........ and no one wants the truth ....... True that... And FATF |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:50:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmandak: True that... And FATF  
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2024 5:33:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmandak: TONS OF INCORRECT INFO ON HERE AND OTHER FORUMS FROM HEARSAY To be fair, everything said by anyone could be considered hearsay or possible incorrect information unless the poster identifies exactly who they heard it from so people can evaluate the source. Or the person indicates they are either an employee of JoJo's or the ATF. These kinds of discussions about a FFL/gun shop getting shut down by ATF always seem to start with "I heard" or "a friend in the know told me" or "someone told me". Rarely does it involve a store employee or owner (for various reasons) coming out and explaining what happened. Not the first time ATF raked a FFL over the coals and shut them down over paperwork issues, and won't be the last. My suspicion (if I put on the tinfoil hat) is that the state (more specifically gun hating Democrat politicians) would love to use the power of the state/ATF to shut down gun shops to strangle the legal sale of guns within CT. If I remember right the initial proposed HB6667 by Lamont had wanted to add a new state licensing structure (state license to sell firearms at retail) for FFL's which likely could have been used to shut down or reduce the numbers of FFL's within the state. (pure tinfoil hat speculation on my part  )What ever, hopefully JoJo's can resume full normal operations soon with a new FFL holder. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:21:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cmandak]
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Posted: 6/11/2024 5:14:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Andrapos]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbhaven: To be fair, everything said by anyone could be considered hearsay or possible incorrect information unless the poster identifies exactly who they heard it from so people can evaluate the source. Or the person indicates they are either an employee of JoJo's or the ATF. ....... What ever, hopefully JoJo's can resume full normal operations soon with a new FFL holder. Well, then, allow me to put this "hearsay" nonsense to bed - I received my information directly from John @ JoJo's. I have been to JoJo's several times over the past few weeks; once on the morning of 5/19 to inspect a very nice early Colt 1911 (when John went into detail with me about what was going on), and then it has been brought up a few more times while I was there dropping off/picking up parts. There was an issue with one 4473 for one gun for one customer, from several years ago. That's all it took for the ATF with their zero tolerance rule. Out of sheer happenstance I also happen to know the customer on the other side of the transaction, and they have confirmed the details.
I look forward to continued visits there and spending more money with them. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 6:06:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nutter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andrapos: Well, then, allow me to put this "hearsay" nonsense to bed - I received my information directly from John @ JoJo's. I have been to JoJo's several times over the past few weeks; once on the morning of 5/19 to inspect a very nice early Colt 1911 (when John went into detail with me about what was going on), and then it has been brought up a few more times while I was there dropping off/picking up parts. There was an issue with one 4473 for one gun for one customer, from several years ago. That's all it took for the ATF with their zero tolerance rule. Out of sheer happenstance I also happen to know the customer on the other side of the transaction, and they have confirmed the details.
I look forward to continued visits there and spending more money with them. so ............is Ann Margret coming or not?  Attached File |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2024 12:47:23 AM EDT
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I read it on the internet, it has to be true
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Posted: 6/12/2024 6:25:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By T-TAC: I heard from a guy a work with this week that ATF shut down Jo Jo's Gunsmithing. That's really bad, now the only smith in Connecticut is Mitch in Fairfield {title edit, strikeout edit.........modrapos} You may want to edit "now the only smith in Connecticut is Mitch in Fairfield" as he is closing shopand is done- ATF and paperwork issues |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:15:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: nutter]
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hmmm.... Attached FileTurns out they are closed.... 7 days a year! So there is obviously see truth to the statement- JoJo's is closed |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 8/15/2024 6:21:08 PM EDT
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I hate to revive the thread, but I wanted to confirm, they are open/accepting new work? I'd call, but they would've closed 20 minutes ago
I fucked a screw up trying to take the rear sight plate off the P365 I bought yesterday
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CT, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2024 10:48:18 AM EDT
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they are starting to take in gunsmith work again starting today..... hopefully next week they will be packed with guns and accessories for sale..... give then them a call......
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CT, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2024 11:20:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bill1348]
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Thanks. I'm actually sitting in their lobby right now. I didn't realize they just started taking work again, though the empty gun cases/shelves made me curious.
I guess I picked the right day to fuck things up ETA: I was in and out in about 5 minutes. Screw extracted, optic installed, pet their 2 doggos while I waited. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 8/17/2024 10:39:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bill1348: I hate to revive the thread, but I wanted to confirm, they are open/accepting new work? I'd call, but they would've closed 20 minutes ago I fucked a screw up trying to take the rear sight plate off the P365 I bought yesterday |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 12:54:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By remarcablearms: You could have just called them. It would have been faster and you could have arranged for a time to drop off your work at the same time. So I suspect you did not really hate to restart the thread. As I already stated, they would've closed 20 minutes prior to my post. I had also called anyway (which I didn't mention) and it just rang endlessly, at which point I remembered having read this thread. My sincere apologies for upsetting you, sir 
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CT, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2024 12:36:44 PM EDT
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Per their Facebook page yesterday. They are now Jo-Jo's Outdoors LLC. They're open and back to custom gunsmithing:
https://www.facebook.com/jojosgunworks Jojo's Gunworks LLC JOJO'S GUNWORKS IS OPEN AND BACK TO CUSTOM GUNSMITHING. WE ARE NOW JO-JO'S OUTDOORS LLC . SEE YOU SOON .... |
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