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Posted: 6/29/2013 12:59:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cowboy]
Buyers beware if dealing with Little Rock FFL - KraftArms, LLC (a.k.a., Trever Murphy). I sent him FULL payment over (6) weeks ago for a Barrett M107 purchased through a Gunbroker Auction. To date, No Rifle delivered & No Refund given - Only one excuse after another. He even emailed me well over a week ago that "check was in the mail". I'm in Dalllas - maybe (3) days for US mail delivery. Another false statement & he has also now canceled his Gunbroker account - possibly due to the negative feedback. As a Warning - you may think, as I did, that buying from a Valid FFL dealer is safe - Not True. So, I will now be pursuing legal action against this dealer, hopefully this Alert may keep one of you from having a similar bad encounter. Let me know if You have already had a similar experience with this FFL. These individuals can only continue to function if the word does not get out about their business practices.
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[#1]
Never heard of him, but it's not like we have weekly get togetheros
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Official 24/365: other Dan
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[#2]
Yep, I never heard of him either prior to seeing and purchasing one of his listings on Gunbroker. Just assumed that buying from a FFL meant that it was safe to deal with him. Live and Learn!
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[Last Edit: TJ43]
[#3]
That guy has a TON of bad feedback on arguntrader.com.
Here is a link to his bad feedback on that site (you will have to join to see it, but joining is free and easy): http://arguntrader.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=22343 Hopefully this helps in your ensuing legal batle. Dont let this guy get away with scamming people. |
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[#4]
Thanks for the "heads up" re: past negative performance. Checked the Arguntrader thread you provided. Unbelievable - he gave me the same "my wife's in the Hospital" type excuse. This guy is bad news and is about to be picked up for a Class 2 Felony.
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[#5]
UPDATE: As a follow up to TJ43's post above, have discovered another Alias used by Murphy - a.k.a. "KraftArms". He also is listing on Gunbroker with User Name "murph80". I discovered that he set up this account in May and was "buying" items from his other account "KraftArms" for the purpose of creating a false A+ rating for KraftArms. Then KraftArms would complete a transaction with muprh80 and also leave A+ feedback. So, if you see listings by "murph80" on any website - DON'T BE FOOLED! Has anyone found other non-reported Aliases?
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[#6]
Originally Posted By rickrixter:
UPDATE: As a follow up to TJ43's post above, have discovered another Alias used by Murphy - a.k.a. "KraftArms". He also is listing on Gunbroker with User Name "murph80". I discovered that he set up this account in May and was "buying" items from his other account "KraftArms" for the purpose of creating a false A+ rating for KraftArms. Then KraftArms would complete a transaction with muprh80 and also leave A+ feedback. So, if you see listings by "murph80" on any website - DON'T BE FOOLED! Has anyone found other non-reported Aliases? Hire an attorney and have them subpoena Gunbroker and ARGuntrader for the IP address of those accounts. Unless the guy is REALLY savvy, you should be able to figure out who he is with that information. Also, if you sent him payment through an online service (Paypal or something similar), that service could help you track him down. If you paid him by check, your bank may be able to help you track down the destination bank of those funds. Put together a packet with all of your proof and have your attorney present it to the Arkansas Prosecutor's office and the Texas Prosecutor's office. |
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[#7]
TJ43 - Great advice - thanks! I'm already moving forward with prosecution.
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571119076C03925KRAFT ARMS LLCNULL1415 FAIR PARK BLVDLITTLE ROCKAR722041415 FAIR PARK BLVDLITTLE ROCKAR722045015901142
Info from ATF. |
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Dan_Gray: You're right
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." T. Jefferson<BR |
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http://www.arcountydata.com/parcel.asp?item=F642C&Page=1&countycode=PULTAX
His info from county assessor. Looks to own the house. If you do decide to knock on his door, you might carry. Its a rougher part of town... |
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Dan_Gray: You're right
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." T. Jefferson<BR |
[#10]
https://www.facebook.com/trever.murphy1/about
this *might* be his FB page |
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Dan_Gray: You're right
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." T. Jefferson<BR |
[#11]
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=1415+FAIR+PARK+BLVDLITTLE+ROCKAR&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&ie=UTF-8&ei=-BvXUeTrMYXM9ATmt4HoDQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg
Pic of his house. |
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Dan_Gray: You're right
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." T. Jefferson<BR |
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http://www.watsonnorth.com/book-of-memories/1319626/Verbitski-Dorothy/obituary.php?Printable=true
Grandmother obit / Family members names? You start tracking down family members youll turn the heat quickly... |
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Dan_Gray: You're right
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." T. Jefferson<BR |
[#13]
https://www.facebook.com/sara.b.murphy
Wifes facebook. |
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Dan_Gray: You're right
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." T. Jefferson<BR |
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[#15]
Good job! As usual you are the man.
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[#16]
Far_Right - Thanks for the "detective" work. I already had most of the info but MORE is always a good thing. Not worried about going to his house - that's a LE function. Keep ya posted on how it turns out.
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[#17]
Everything originally Posted By far_right:
Good lord man |
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The legend.
The bringer of rain. Just the right amount of wrong. |
[#18]
Originally Posted By cowboy:
Everything originally Posted By far_right:
Good lord man he knows how to creep like noone else. |
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Announcing your Plan is a good way to hear God laugh.--Al Swearenger-Deadwood
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[#19]
Originally Posted By supplex:
Originally Posted By cowboy:
Everything originally Posted By far_right:
Good lord man he knows how to creep like noone else. Truth |
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Dan_Gray: You're right
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." T. Jefferson<BR |
[#20]
Unfortunately, I did not find this post until after wrestling with Trever Murphy/Kraftarms/murph80 on an item I won from him on gunbroker. I was lucky enough not to send him any money after i found the pictures of the item he was selling me, posted on other websites (for sale in New Zealand). He is a scumbag and he just sold some buyer an MP5 on gunbroker. I have sent numerous emails to GB to get his account shut down and they have given me little response.
Anyone have any suggestions? |
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[#21]
I pursued him hard thru both Gunbroker & local Law Enforcement. Finally with the threat of pending Class 2 Felony charges he sent me a partial refund (shorted me $25.00). However, I feel very LUCKY to have gotten the majority of my money back from him. He always had one excuse after another why he couldn't ship the rifle I purchased (biggest reason - HE NEVER HAD IT!). I also provided Gunbroker with the info on multiple account names he was using. Gunbroker responded to me that they have terminated ALL his current user accounts. But, buyer beware, he will no doubt show up again with another User Name - just be sure to be cautious of any NEW seller that shows to be a FFL and is based in Little Rock.
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[#22]
Please post up all of the sellers contact information (here and on ARGuntrader). That way, other people that get screwed can track him down.
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[#23]
I hope I never piss Far_Right off.....Great job on the detective work
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"You'll get no sympathy from me! You want sympathy,
look in the dictionary between shit, and syphilis! Thats where you'll find my sympathy!" -Major Payne |
[#24]
Let's keep this Warning on the front page to help ensure that no one else gets taken in by this seller. Keep "bumping".
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[Last Edit: ElCid87USMC]
[#25]
GOOD NEWS!!
Gunbroker removed the F rating he gave me and cancelled his account. I have a feeling he received another compliant. I can't believe the nerve of this guy. DO NOT BUY GUNS from TREVER MURPHY, KRAFTRAMS, or MURPH80. He is a fraud! |
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[#26]
Originally Posted By ElCid87USMC:
GOOD NEWS!! Gunbroker removed the F rating he gave me and cancelled his account. I have a feeling he received another compliant. I can't believe the nerve of this guy. DO NOT BUY GUNS from TREVER MURPHY, KRAFTRAMS, or MURPH80. He is a fraud! View Quote How is the ATF not all over this guy? If I was to accidentally drop one of my damascus barrels on the ground and it shattered to less than 16 inches long I'd have the SWAT team on top of me within minutes... |
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Originally Posted By Kanati:
How is the ATF not all over this guy? If I was to accidentally drop one of my damascus barrels on the ground and it shattered to less than 16 inches long I'd have the SWAT team on top of me within minutes... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kanati:
Originally Posted By ElCid87USMC:
GOOD NEWS!! Gunbroker removed the F rating he gave me and cancelled his account. I have a feeling he received another compliant. I can't believe the nerve of this guy. DO NOT BUY GUNS from TREVER MURPHY, KRAFTRAMS, or MURPH80. He is a fraud! How is the ATF not all over this guy? If I was to accidentally drop one of my damascus barrels on the ground and it shattered to less than 16 inches long I'd have the SWAT team on top of me within minutes... You have to piss the ATF for them to come after you. Look at the shotgun news guy. They let him sell DIAS for decades, and now they're just confiscating instead of prosecuting people. |
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Official 24/365: other Dan
Why do people keep asking for justice for Trayvon, he got justice last year! |
[#28]
"Bump" - to keep on first page as WARNING to all potential buyers!
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[#29]
"Bump" to keep this on the first page as a WARNING to potential buyers to stay away from this FFL.
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[#30]
***Update***
Some of you guys might know me on here. I try to keep a fairly low profile despite being a fairly large NFA owner. Anyway, I was one of the most recent people that Mr. Murphy tried to scam on Gunbroker with the MP5. He claimed to have several nice weapons. I got another investor involved that also showed interest in the rest of his collection. Everything seemed legitimate at first until I received copies of his "F3's". The forms were incomplete, some had information for two different firearms, the SN's were not in his inventory, the approval signatures were forged, etc. I tried to reason with the guy and even made myself available to drive to his residence to inspect the firearms and review his "paperwork". All I got were excuses. I felt like I was left with no choice but to report this matter to the ATF. I spoke with a local agent today that was very interested in what I had to show him. I believe that they are pursuing legal action. More to follow... |
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[#31]
Dude is getting into deeper and deeper shit.
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The legend.
The bringer of rain. Just the right amount of wrong. |
[#32]
Pinned the thread and marked it not to archive. This thread won't go away until Mr Murphy does.
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The legend.
The bringer of rain. Just the right amount of wrong. |
[#33]
I have a cell phone number for him. I am not sure if it is still active. If you want it pm me and I will dig it up.
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[#34]
Thanks for the "Pin". Keep this Warning on the first page.
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[Last Edit: David1963]
[#35]
I know where this guy lives, works, phone number, hours he works, what gun range he uses..............anyone needing it let me know
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[#36]
I have had a run in with Mr. Murphy, you may follow the link below to the arguntrader forum to read my case, this guy is scum, if anyone has any other suggestions please submit them, I am determined to shut this guy down
http://www.arguntrader.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=22343&start=40 |
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[#37]
Any updates?
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[#38]
Last I heard was that Local PD and ATF were investigating for possible criminal prosecution - this was late last year.
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[#39]
Somewhere around here I still have his telephone number. He was going to help me take my suppressor apart. Then, he started acting spooky and I backed out.
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[#40]
Wish I'd heard some of this before it was too late. Won M16 on gunbroker last July from him. At the time, I didn't find any of the "real" feedback on him and sounded legit. Thank goodness I only (foolishly) sent a partial payment until transfer was complete. When I finally realized what was going on, I got every excuse under the sun. Gun never existed in his possession-he was just selling pictures. ATF didn't really seem too concerned and wasn't interested in pursuing matters. Did find out that he relinquished his FFL in November last year. Little Rock PD pushed his buttons some and he did finally send a check, which of course bounced to the moon. Now going after him on hot check fraud. Will see what happens. This lyin P.O.S. needs to spend some time in the cooler, after I get my money back!
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[#41]
I realize this is an older thread at this point, but just an update- Trever Murphy is now in the Pulaski County, Arkansas jail and is being held for the US Marshals Service. I do not know the exact charges he is facing. However, public information available online contains testimony that he:
1. Sold thousands of dollars of firearms over the internet but did not deliver the firearms after receiving payment. 2. Forged letterhead from the US District Attorney's office and represented that the letter was from a US District Attorney 3. Forged letterhead from the BATFE and attached a certification bearing the signature of an ATF special agent. I doubt anyone has to beware of doing business with this guy anymore unless you're in the business of trading cigarettes in prison. |
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[#42]
This dude needs some serious prison time!
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[#43]
I'm going to unpin this, but set it to not archive so it will be available until further notice.
Hopefully dude serves a great deal of time and every gets their due justice. |
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Referring to me: you have a very sarcastic and condescending and patronizing and insulting and demeaning way of 'being helpful"
Just the right amount of wrong. |
[#44]
Not trying to resurrect an old thread. But it appears that he'll be old if he ever gets out.
Trevor Murphy Inmate ID: #23166-014 Source: Public GENDER Male AGE 34 LOCATED AT United States Penitentiary (USP) - Canaan RELEASE DATE 2041-04-20 RELEASED IN 6655 days FACILITY LOCATION Waymart, Pennsylvania |
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[#45]
Not trying to resurrect an old thread. But it appears that he'll be old if he ever gets out.
Trevor Murphy Inmate ID: #23166-014 Source: Public GENDER Male AGE 34 LOCATED AT United States Penitentiary (USP) - Canaan RELEASE DATE 2041-04-20 RELEASED IN 6655 days FACILITY LOCATION Waymart, Pennsylvania |
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[#46]
Fed time is minimum of 90% iirc. He'll be gone awhile
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[Last Edit: Amos_Moses]
[#47]
DAD GUM. I read a lot of this then seen it was 10 years old!
I thought, "Hmm...OP's been here since 2013 and is now making his first post..." Ha. |
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Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE |
[#49]
Originally Posted By 74SHARPS: Not trying to resurrect an old thread. But it appears that he'll be old if he ever gets out. Trevor Murphy Inmate ID: #23166-014 Source: Public GENDER Male AGE 34 LOCATED AT United States Penitentiary (USP) - Canaan RELEASE DATE 2041-04-20 RELEASED IN 6655 days FACILITY LOCATION Waymart, Pennsylvania View Quote Don’t think that is him. Trevor is spelled with an “o” instead of an “e”, and a BOP search of the ID number shows this one to be 34 and a Black male. |
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