Posted: 1/7/2014 6:30:01 PM EDT
| So lets say 2 months go by no forms saying your stuff is registered yeah you sent it signature confirmation! Sir the package was empty! What proof now?! |
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So lets say 2 months go by no forms saying your stuff is registered yeah you sent it signature confirmation! Sir the package was empty! What proof now?! What's to stop them from "losing" a certain percentage of forms? Especially forms from certain individuals who registered and declared a lot? Nothing? |
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So lets say 2 months go by no forms saying your stuff is registered yeah you sent it signature confirmation! Sir the package was empty! What proof now?! Easy. You've got copies of the green card. Copies of the postal receipt. Copies of the tracking information from usps.com showing it arrived by 12/31. You've got copies of all the notarized bullshit that is dated before 12/31. You've got a pro-2A lawyer already picked out who knows you right? You're all set. They easily 'lost' at least 1-2% of these in the process. Fuck them. 
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| Friend of mine got a letter back from DPS saying he didn't include an affidavit for his magazine declaration. He told me he's positive he included one with all his paperwork. He can still submit an affidavit after the fact because his initial submittal was prior to the cut off but this is the type of crap that scares the shit out of me. |
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Easy. You've got copies of the green card. Copies of the postal receipt. Copies of the tracking information from usps.com showing it arrived by 12/31. You've got copies of all the notarized bullshit that is dated before 12/31. You've got a pro-2A lawyer already picked out who knows you right? You're all set. They easily 'lost' at least 1-2% of these in the process. Fuck them.
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So lets say 2 months go by no forms saying your stuff is registered yeah you sent it signature confirmation! Sir the package was empty! What proof now?! Easy. You've got copies of the green card. Copies of the postal receipt. Copies of the tracking information from usps.com showing it arrived by 12/31. You've got copies of all the notarized bullshit that is dated before 12/31. You've got a pro-2A lawyer already picked out who knows you right? You're all set. They easily 'lost' at least 1-2% of these in the process. Fuck them.
This no worries. I gurantee you if they loose stuff it won't be hard. march down to the DPS building with your green cards and copies of your forms, they will issue your reciepts. They don't want the headace either, I am not worried. |
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There is lots of tinfoil hattery going on about the state loosing the forms or claiming they never received them if you mail them in. So far NO ONE has reported that their forms have been lost. One or two people have reported they've been asked to fix errors in their applications and to resubmit. You can bet that if the state suddenly started to "loose" people's applications or claim they didn't receive anything that there will be lawsuits galore over it. The media optics of it will not be good for the state and the gun grabbers. Which is why its doubtful that the state will "loose" applications and that it would be widespread, if at all.
It appears per other threads both here and elsewhere that its taking the state about 2 months from application reception to mailing out the certs. If you mailed them in and used certified mail with return receipt prior to Jan 1, you should be fine since that's how the IRS wants you to submit tax forms to them. The law states you are supposed to "apply" by Jan 1. |
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The more people who register the better it looks for the state is it shows the public that "the law is working". That is the political capital that they want, losing forms works against this. So what happens the next time an Adam Lanza happens in CT. As long as the real problem is not addressed it will happen again. And what will the politicians in ct say then, there laws won't stop these nuts from doing these things and the public will see these laws do nothing. As far as my paperwork getting lost, I'm not concerned one bit. Hasn't even crossed my mind until I read this thread  but I won't waste another second thinking about it. Like others have said the state WANTS to show people that we are all assholes and will do whatever we're told by the scary government, all the while they know full well, these laws will not stop another Lanza attack.
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The more people who register the better it looks for the state is it shows the public that "the law is working". That is the political capital that they want, losing forms works against this. Quoted:
The more people who register the better it looks for the state is it shows the public that "the law is working". That is the political capital that they want, losing forms works against this. Exactly. Quoted:
So what happens the next time an Adam Lanza happens in CT. As long as the real problem is not addressed it will happen again. And what will the politicians in ct say then, there laws won't stop these nuts from doing these things and the public will see these laws do nothing. The same thing that always happens when there is mass shooting, either here in CT or elsewhere. The usual progressives will call for more laws on guns. Its all they know, its what they do in response to anything they fear or want to control. Its always about furthering the power of the state over the masses. Remember, they don't really care about preventing someone from committing the murder of one or 100 people. Its all about banning the guns. They don't want us to have them period. Some don't even want law enforcement and the military to have them. They know that so long as the peasants have guns they can resist the power of state. That we can resist them. |
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There is lots of tinfoil hattery going on about the state loosing the forms or claiming they never received them if you mail them in. So far NO ONE has reported that their forms have been lost. One or two people have reported they've been asked to fix errors in their applications and to resubmit. You can bet that if the state suddenly started to "loose" people's applications or claim they didn't receive anything that there will be lawsuits galore over it. The media optics of it will not be good for the state and the gun grabbers. Which is why its doubtful that the state will "loose" applications and that it would be widespread, if at all. It appears per other threads both here and elsewhere that its taking the state about 2 months from application reception to mailing out the certs. If you mailed them in and used certified mail with return receipt prior to Jan 1, you should be fine since that's how the IRS wants you to submit tax forms to them. The law states you are supposed to "apply" by Jan 1. This Settle down Beavis |
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So lets say 2 months go by no forms saying your stuff is registered yeah you sent it signature confirmation! Sir the package was empty! What proof now?! Dunno how anyone else handled their forms, but I myself attested I owned the firearms before 4/4 in the same notarized statement that I attested I owned the magazines before 4/4, and I sent out everything to them in the same envelope. They sent me the notice back saying they registered the magazines which means they necessarily received everything else, plus, I still have the signature confirmation of delivery card from the USPS. Their claiming they didn't receive my AW forms would be a pretty tough sell in court for them. The only other concern would be is if it were rejected for some reason and they sent a request back for corrections which was lost in the mail. Here I am thinking it was registered properly and there they are thinkiing I'm not complying. In that case, I have proof they received all my paperwork and I was in full compliance with the law on my end. If they don't have their own proof they mailed me back a request for corrections...I.E. their own signature confirmation of delivery, which I guarantee they won't do...then that would be a tough sell for them in court as well. Seriously, I guarantee that even if any of the above happens, there isn't a prosecutor in the state who'd waste his time pressing charges. They want cases they know they can pursue to a legal victory, not politically charged cases that will only boomerang back on them publicly and expose just how scewed up their bureauocracy is. |