Posted: 6/9/2015 6:19:25 PM EDT
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Don't forget you weirdo's with MG's, time to send in you MG forms.
Certified Mail, Signature accepted, Return Receipt, First Class Mail You know the drill! 
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Out of curiosity, what if someone neglected this annual process for the last 20 or so years? Would they just be DOA. http://www.cga.ct.gov/current/pub/chap_943.htm#sec_53-202 Sec. 53-202. Machine guns. ... (c) Any person who (1) possesses or uses a machine gun for an offensive or aggressive purpose, or (2) notwithstanding the provisions of subdivision (3) of subsection (h) of this section, transfers, sells or gives a machine gun to a person under sixteen years of age, including the temporary transfer of a machine gun to such person for use in target shooting or on a firing or shooting range or for any other purpose, shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not less than five years nor more than ten years or be both fined and imprisoned. .... (g) Each machine gun in this state adapted to use projectiles of any caliber shall be registered in the office of the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection within twenty-four hours after its acquisition and, thereafter, annually, on July first. Blanks for registration shall be prepared by said commissioner and furnished upon application. To comply with this subsection, the application as filed shall show the model and serial number of the gun, the name, address and occupation of the person in possession, and from whom and the purpose for which the gun was acquired. The registration data shall not be subject to inspection by the public. Any person who fails to register any gun as required hereby shall be presumed to possess the same for an offensive or aggressive purpose. The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to any machine gun which has been registered under the provisions of subsection (f) and which is still in the actual possession of the manufacturer. |
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http://www.cga.ct.gov/current/pub/chap_943.htm#sec_53-202 Sec. 53-202. Machine guns. ... (c) Any person who (1) possesses or uses a machine gun for an offensive or aggressive purpose, or (2) notwithstanding the provisions of subdivision (3) of subsection (h) of this section, transfers, sells or gives a machine gun to a person under sixteen years of age, including the temporary transfer of a machine gun to such person for use in target shooting or on a firing or shooting range or for any other purpose, shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not less than five years nor more than ten years or be both fined and imprisoned. .... (g) Each machine gun in this state adapted to use projectiles of any caliber shall be registered in the office of the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection within twenty-four hours after its acquisition and, thereafter, annually, on July first. Blanks for registration shall be prepared by said commissioner and furnished upon application. To comply with this subsection, the application as filed shall show the model and serial number of the gun, the name, address and occupation of the person in possession, and from whom and the purpose for which the gun was acquired. The registration data shall not be subject to inspection by the public. Any person who fails to register any gun as required hereby shall be presumed to possess the same for an offensive or aggressive purpose. The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to any machine gun which has been registered under the provisions of subsection (f) and which is still in the actual possession of the manufacturer. Quoted:
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Out of curiosity, what if someone neglected this annual process for the last 20 or so years? Would they just be DOA. http://www.cga.ct.gov/current/pub/chap_943.htm#sec_53-202 Sec. 53-202. Machine guns. ... (c) Any person who (1) possesses or uses a machine gun for an offensive or aggressive purpose, or (2) notwithstanding the provisions of subdivision (3) of subsection (h) of this section, transfers, sells or gives a machine gun to a person under sixteen years of age, including the temporary transfer of a machine gun to such person for use in target shooting or on a firing or shooting range or for any other purpose, shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not less than five years nor more than ten years or be both fined and imprisoned. .... (g) Each machine gun in this state adapted to use projectiles of any caliber shall be registered in the office of the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection within twenty-four hours after its acquisition and, thereafter, annually, on July first. Blanks for registration shall be prepared by said commissioner and furnished upon application. To comply with this subsection, the application as filed shall show the model and serial number of the gun, the name, address and occupation of the person in possession, and from whom and the purpose for which the gun was acquired. The registration data shall not be subject to inspection by the public. Any person who fails to register any gun as required hereby shall be presumed to possess the same for an offensive or aggressive purpose. The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to any machine gun which has been registered under the provisions of subsection (f) and which is still in the actual possession of the manufacturer. Gotcha, just curious |
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Out of curiosity, what if someone neglected this annual process for the last 20 or so years? Would they just be DOA. Typically the powers that be are very helpful and accommodating - I would guess that once you registered/submitted the cards, that would be the end of it. I have experienced numerous paperwork errors on these forms along with missing items and incorrect information- my experience has always been that the dps was always very helpful and accommodating! |
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I think he's excited to have a new machine gun to register. 
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This outta be fun  How so? I am speaking from my experiences with dps. I think he's excited to have a new machine gun to register.
I got to add two and I was pretty excited myself. Ahh- well in that case it IS fun
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This outta be fun How so? I am speaking from my experiences with dps. I think he's excited to have a new machine gun to register.
I got to add two and I was pretty excited myself. Ahh- well in that case it IS fun Haha this is exactly what I meant 
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I am very happy for you bending- been thinking about a sten myself. I really want another something. .... Thanks Nutter! Im pretty sure you know Im thinking about wanting another something also! 
Camel-Nope this one's serious. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, CT is serious when it comes to firearms laws! |
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Quoted: Thanks Nutter! Im pretty sure you know Im thinking about wanting another something also! Camel-Nope this one's serious. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, CT is serious when it comes to firearms laws! Quoted: Quoted: I am very happy for you bending- been thinking about a sten myself. I really want another something. .... Thanks Nutter! Im pretty sure you know Im thinking about wanting another something also! Camel-Nope this one's serious. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, CT is serious when it comes to firearms laws! |
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Then why have I never heard of it before? Quoted:
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I am very happy for you bending- been thinking about a sten myself. I really want another something. .... Thanks Nutter! Im pretty sure you know Im thinking about wanting another something also!
Camel-Nope this one's serious. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, CT is serious when it comes to firearms laws! Unless you have a machine gun, a lot of people don't know about it. Been that way for years. You get your list from CSP and either say "no change" or you add something or you subtract something you sold. It's pretty simple. Bending, Doug from DLO made my brother and me several machine guns when he was in Shelton. He was quite the character and very talented. His specialty was Browning belt-feds and I know he did a bunch of Stens. Good luck! |
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Thanks Conn! Yea Im excited to be bringing back to CT this DLO Sten! Started out here, and is ending up back here.
Which 2 did you add(if you dont mind me asking)? I grew up in the wrong damn time period. All Ive ever known when it come to firearms, is CT's horrible restrictions. Its funny that so many firearm companies, and well known gunsmiths worked in this state years ago. Doug had (i think he passed right?) a pretty big name in the MG world, and its funny he was right here in this state for a while. |
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Unless you have a machine gun, a lot of people don't know about it. Been that way for years. You get your list from CSP and either say "no change" or you add something or you subtract something you sold. It's pretty simple. Bending, Doug from DLO made my brother and me several machine guns when he was in Shelton. He was quite the character and very talented. His specialty was Browning belt-feds and I know he did a bunch of Stens. Good luck! Quoted:
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I am very happy for you bending- been thinking about a sten myself. I really want another something. .... Thanks Nutter! Im pretty sure you know Im thinking about wanting another something also!
Camel-Nope this one's serious. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, CT is serious when it comes to firearms laws! Unless you have a machine gun, a lot of people don't know about it. Been that way for years. You get your list from CSP and either say "no change" or you add something or you subtract something you sold. It's pretty simple. Bending, Doug from DLO made my brother and me several machine guns when he was in Shelton. He was quite the character and very talented. His specialty was Browning belt-feds and I know he did a bunch of Stens. Good luck! He made a few of my guns as well- he is still alive and well, selling off what he has left in small spurts. I still have his phone number- caller beware, he can be nice and he can also be very very to the point! Always been nice to me though |
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Whoops! I wonder why I thought that... Did he leave CT for a while too? Or do I have that wrong as well? I thought there were DLO firearms that weren't made in CT? I might just be confusing something else though. He lives in Florida. He had a big legal battle with ATF - forced out of business/ chose to get out of business. He registered a lot of guns, tubes, trigger packs, some auto sears, and such. He still has stuff to sell, sells it on subguns.com. He does not use computer much, have to call him. |
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He lives in Florida. He had a big legal battle with ATF - forced out of business/ chose to get out of business. He registered a lot of guns, tubes, trigger packs, some auto sears, and such. He still has stuff to sell, sells it on subguns.com. He does not use computer much, have to call him. Quoted:
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Whoops! I wonder why I thought that... Did he leave CT for a while too? Or do I have that wrong as well? I thought there were DLO firearms that weren't made in CT? I might just be confusing something else though. He lives in Florida. He had a big legal battle with ATF - forced out of business/ chose to get out of business. He registered a lot of guns, tubes, trigger packs, some auto sears, and such. He still has stuff to sell, sells it on subguns.com. He does not use computer much, have to call him. OK yep, thats what I remember reading. |
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He made a few of my guns as well- he is still alive and well, selling off what he has left in small spurts. I still have his phone number- caller beware, he can be nice and he can also be very very to the point! Always been nice to me though Quoted:
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I am very happy for you bending- been thinking about a sten myself. I really want another something. .... Thanks Nutter! Im pretty sure you know Im thinking about wanting another something also!
Camel-Nope this one's serious. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, CT is serious when it comes to firearms laws! Unless you have a machine gun, a lot of people don't know about it. Been that way for years. You get your list from CSP and either say "no change" or you add something or you subtract something you sold. It's pretty simple. Bending, Doug from DLO made my brother and me several machine guns when he was in Shelton. He was quite the character and very talented. His specialty was Browning belt-feds and I know he did a bunch of Stens. Good luck! He made a few of my guns as well- he is still alive and well, selling off what he has left in small spurts. I still have his phone number- caller beware, he can be nice and he can also be very very to the point! Always been nice to me though Yep, you definitely know him. He could be a bit harsh but he was always extremely generous to me and my brother. The move to Florida was an adventure in itself. Glad to hear he is still around. He really knew those Brownings.
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Quoted: Unless you have a machine gun, a lot of people don't know about it. Been that way for years. You get your list from CSP and either say "no change" or you add something or you subtract something you sold. It's pretty simple. Bending, Doug from DLO made my brother and me several machine guns when he was in Shelton. He was quite the character and very talented. His specialty was Browning belt-feds and I know he did a bunch of Stens. Good luck! Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am very happy for you bending- been thinking about a sten myself. I really want another something. .... Thanks Nutter! Im pretty sure you know Im thinking about wanting another something also! Camel-Nope this one's serious. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, CT is serious when it comes to firearms laws! Unless you have a machine gun, a lot of people don't know about it. Been that way for years. You get your list from CSP and either say "no change" or you add something or you subtract something you sold. It's pretty simple. Bending, Doug from DLO made my brother and me several machine guns when he was in Shelton. He was quite the character and very talented. His specialty was Browning belt-feds and I know he did a bunch of Stens. Good luck! |
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Doug from DLO made my brother and me several machine guns when he was in Shelton. He was quite the character and very talented. His specialty was Browning belt-feds and I know he did a bunch of Stens. Good luck! He certainly was, I miss stopping down on Saturday mornings or during the week to drop off a sear for a trigger pack install. Doug was open carry before anyone had a clue! |
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Thank you I thought this was a parody thread. So how often does this come up? It's not a yearly cycle right? Quoted:
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I am very happy for you bending- been thinking about a sten myself. I really want another something. .... Thanks Nutter! Im pretty sure you know Im thinking about wanting another something also!
Camel-Nope this one's serious. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, CT is serious when it comes to firearms laws! Unless you have a machine gun, a lot of people don't know about it. Been that way for years. You get your list from CSP and either say "no change" or you add something or you subtract something you sold. It's pretty simple. Bending, Doug from DLO made my brother and me several machine guns when he was in Shelton. He was quite the character and very talented. His specialty was Browning belt-feds and I know he did a bunch of Stens. Good luck! It's once a year. Every June we get the letter listing our machine guns. Just make any adjustments, if any, and send it in by July. IIRC, CT is second only to NH in NFA weapon registry. LOTS of machine guns here. Too bad they're so expensive to shoot but that's the way it is now. |
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IIRC, CT is se[/url]cond only to NH in NFA weapon registry. We may be third, behind DC with NH being first, if this guy's article from 2013, using ATF numbers from 2010, is correct. |
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Worked for DLO for the better part of a decade. Interesting fellow, to say the least. Boy, do I have some stories! He moved from Stamford to Shelton when the landlord down there wanted to sell the building. Moved to FL after the first AWB passed. Wished I had done the same!
He certainly had a lot of great toys. I had lots of opportunities to buy stuff (which I did on occasion). But it got to the point that I was taking my salary in gun stuff, and since I was doing it for extra money to pay the bills, that had to stop. What an A$$HOLE I was! If I knew where things were going, I could have turned all that stuff he offered me into a small fortune now! 
His specialties were the Sten and Browning. I have put together hundreds of both. You wouldn't think it by the way things are today, but CT was a VERY gun friendly state before the Liberals took over. Kind of makes sense, as it was the firearms making heart of the country. Ah, the good old days! 
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Worked for DLO for the better part of a decade. Interesting fellow, to say the least. Boy, do I have some stories! He moved from Stamford to Shelton when the landlord down there wanted to sell the building. Moved to FL after the first AWB passed. Wished I had done the same! He certainly had a lot of great toys. I had lots of opportunities to buy stuff (which I did on occasion). But it got to the point that I was taking my salary in gun stuff, and since I was doing it for extra money to pay the bills, that had to stop. What an A$$HOLE I was! If I knew where things were going, I could have turned all that stuff he offered me into a small fortune now!
His specialties were the Sten and Browning. I have put together hundreds of both. You wouldn't think it by the way things are today, but CT was a VERY gun friendly state before the Liberals took over. Kind of makes sense, as it was the firearms making heart of the country. Ah, the good old days!
Would love to hear some of your stories
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OK Nutter, here is one I know Doug wouldn't mind me sharing.
Doug had a acquaintance that had a 400 acre estate in Kent. He would host a small MG shoot every 4th of July. So early in the morning of the 4th, a group showed up at the shop in Shelton to load up for the day's activities. Since Doug had acquired a German Pak37 AT gun, he had rented a cube van to transport everything up north. For those who didn't know what the shop in Shelton was like, it was in the Conti building, an 1890's era factory building downtown, and his shop was in the basement. Because of this, the van was parked on the street level, and all the hardware was being ferried up from the shop. First thing that was done, was to roll the AT gun out the other end of the building (where it was street level), then roll the cannon up Canal street, and up into the van. It was immediately apparent that the work crew just couldn't leave the van unattended, so an armed guard was left at the van. Since it was already hot as Hell's kitchen, the guy who was on guard took off his shirt, revealing the .45 in a belt holster. He kept an eye out, while the rest of the crew brought up dozens of firearms of all descriptions , and thousands of rounds of ammunition. All of this activity was done in full view of a Shelton Police cruiser, parked a cross the street at a bank. We were just about ready to leave, when an unmarked car pulled up, and a detective jumped out, mad as a wet hen! He completely ignored the open cube van, in which the cannon, and piles of mayhem were stacked in plain sight, and lost his mind over the fact that our guy standing guard was wearing an exposed handgun. Everyone tried to explain to him that there was no requirement for concealment in CT, but he didn't want to hear it. It was kind of amusing to see this one guy screaming at a dozen heavily armed other men (everyone was packing, the others were just concealed). The uniforms in the cruiser just sat there in their car a cross the street. I imagine they were enjoying the show. So, Doug comes up the stairs to the street to see what is going on. He is not concealing his side arm either. Doug's sidearm of choice was a nickeled 1911 with silver grips, and it caught the detective's eye. He immediately pointed his finger at Doug and started yelling: "You, you too! What is it with you people" and started his ranting all over again. Anyway, he held us all there while he called everyone he could to see what laws we were breaking (in the days before cell phones, just radio), and I believe he even went back to the station to investigate. Finally he reluctantly admitted it was all legal, and let us go. To this day I am amazed by this detective's agitation over a pistol permit holder with an exposed firearm, all the time ignoring the van full of hardware right in front of his nose! |
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I liked it. I imagine there are lots more There are, just not many I would think that Doug would like put out in public. I was there during the hay day of the MG world. The early 80's into the 90's. I started working for him after I brokered a deal between him and the North Haven PD, for an excellent condition 1928A1 Thompson (part of the post war hand out of surplus equipment to local PDs during the 1940s, sound familiar? ). Went for all of $800. The PD wouldn't sell to an individual.
He had a pile of 1917 (not A1) Browning Water Cooled MGs that came out of Interarms in England. There were Remingtons, Westinghouses, and a couple of Colt 38Bs. Most in very nice condition, just missing the right sidepate. Doug was the one that got that ruling that the right sideplate on a BMG was the "firearm". Back then, dealer price was $1500 (count the zeros). We even "upgraded" some guns into 1917A1 models by adding bottom plates, original sight leaves, and whatever else was needed. Who knew the 1917s would be worth more in time? Everyone wanted the A1s. He also came out with the semi-conversion for non-class 3 states (before the semi bans). Sarco and Numrich (Gun Parts Corp) had large amounts of NOS parts in those days. Once the A4s kits became available, he focused production on them, and save the few remaining water cooled kits for premium. M37s were also quick sellers, if you could find the kits. He also had large numbers of Sten MKII kits. These are the two models of guns that really put him on the map, although he would gladly deal in any MGs or cannons. Suppressors were around, but not quite as popular as they are now. Doug also did some movie/TV guns. The one that comes to mind is the little 3 shot SBS pistol that the character "Tubs" used in Miami Vice. In those days, if someone found an MG that had not been registered in the 1968 amnesty, Doug could tell them to "destroy" it, and he could re-manufacture it, and it would be legal, just not a C&R anymore. Ah, the good old days! When the 1986 MG ban passed, Doug's business went crazy. Doug had registered a large number of Sten Tubes, and Browning Sideplates, along with some auto sears of various models. I remember a trailer load of M3 37mm AT gun barrels that came out of M3 Stuart Tanks in South America. Pak37 German AT guns that came in from Austria. All this back before you had to destroy the barrels. There are other kinds of stories too. Like Doug and his permits. He had pistol permits from almost every state on the East Coast, and liked to keep them in individual ID wallets in both back pockets (part of the show to keep taking them out one at a time). Well, Doug's shop at Vasser Ave in Stamford was pretty much in the middle of the ghetto, and one day when Doug was walking, two of the locals jumped him. While one knocked him down, and was kicking him in the head, the other started pulling wallets out of his back pockets (yelling WTF). Doug got hold of the one going through his pockets, screwed the nickeled .45 he always carried into his temple, and they both decided it would be best to be elsewhere. Doug played it right, and didn't shoot anyone, and they never found those two young gentleman. Speaking of the shop on Vasser Ave, Doug started out as an auto-body guy. The guns were always his hobby, and slowly he started making more money at them then the cars. Doug always like the irony of the sign over the door that said "Dougs Auto". I had some great opportunities to buy some great shit. Some I did buy, most I didn't (damned being broke thing again). But, I did get to shoot, and or work on a great number of firearms. And, meet a great many interesting people. I will always be grateful to Doug for all he taught me. |
| That's some cool history right there! I had the opportunity to visit with Bubba Naess.... What a gentlemen! He talked with me for a while at his house and showed me around- that was a great day for me. I have met some real nice and helpful people in the business that have always been good to me. |
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So is it bad if you've never gotten yours? What? The notification of the annual registration requirement? If it is a serious question, and you do own MGs, I would contact the weapons unit to make sure you are registered (unless you would prefer to skip it). I know there is a natural reluctance to involve the "man", but in all the times I have contacted them, they have been nothing but helpful. I always make a copy of each years form after I fill it in, just as proof I am in compliance. |