Posted: 8/13/2009 10:53:40 AM EDT
| Is a Magpul PRS considered a collapsible stock? I am wondering about being compliant with the laws. |
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I may be wrong, new here (FL'ian)
The PRS series of stocks are not considered collapsible stocks, they are adjustable stocks. They have adjustable butt plates and cheek rests for target / sport shooting. Adjustable means, you can adjust the stock a couple of inches for shoulder / arm length and for the cheek rest by using a turn knob or a tool for adjustment. A collapsible stock is collapsed or extended more than a couple of inches (at least 1/2 the total length of the stock), and can easily be done with the push or pull of a lever or button... However I can only imagine some dick prosecutor trying to drag your ass around a courtroom for it. |
In addition to what was already said, if you read the NYS law it does not say "collapsible". It says "telescoping or folding". Of course, telescoping is not defined anywhere but IMO that's like a 5 position carbine stock. Just like someone already said... what I think doesn't matter. 
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I'm unsure about this, its a question. That is why I asked it. Not to get a retarded response from you. Easy there, all in good fun. This is a very common question here. Some will give you a definate yes, and some will say definately no. The only answer I see as reasonable is "Do you want to be the test case?" Note the 5th post down http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=9&t=312876 http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=9&t=338738 http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=9&t=336537 |
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As has already been said, a lot of people disagree but the way I see it....
If you have a stock that goes from long to short, even a little bit, then it's close enough to being 'telescoping' so as to not be worth the trouble in NY. Get a regular stock, if it's too short add a thicker recoil pad, if its too long take the recoil pad off. |
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As has already been said, a lot of people disagree but the way I see it.... If you have a stock that goes from long to short, even a little bit, then it's close enough to being 'telescoping' so as to not be worth the trouble in NY. Get a regular stock, if it's too short add a thicker recoil pad, if its too long take the recoil pad off. The NYSP/GIU has said it is NOT a "collapsable" or "telescopic" stock PERIOD! 
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As has already been said, a lot of people disagree but the way I see it.... If you have a stock that goes from long to short, even a little bit, then it's close enough to being 'telescoping' so as to not be worth the trouble in NY. Get a regular stock, if it's too short add a thicker recoil pad, if its too long take the recoil pad off. The NYSP/GIU has said it is NOT a "collapsable" or "telescopic" stock PERIOD!
is that in writing anywhere? |
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As has already been said, a lot of people disagree but the way I see it.... If you have a stock that goes from long to short, even a little bit, then it's close enough to being 'telescoping' so as to not be worth the trouble in NY. Get a regular stock, if it's too short add a thicker recoil pad, if its too long take the recoil pad off. The NYSP/GIU has said it is NOT a "collapsible" or "telescopic" stock PERIOD!
is that in writing anywhere? Scroll up and find "762DM" that is the authority being spoken of. Listen, there are dozens of posters here with thousands of posts credited to each of them; they are Attorneys, Law Enforcement, Pro-Gun Organizations, and people that work in the firearms industry: any one of them WILL throw the "bullshit" flag on the slightest error in the reply. This shit has been beaten to death: the manufacturer has stated that it's an "Adjustable Stock" the "Expert witness/authority" for the State has said it is not a collapsible or telescopic scope, it's been questioned, debated, and re-hashed a dozen times, always leading to the consensus that it does not fall into the category defined as an Assault Weapon feature. Any jack-ass sitting on a Jury would agree by simple demonstration that it's not, even the most anti-gun District Attorney wouldn't chase this dog. For once do some research before demanding of me to provide proof that it is, prove to me that it isn't. [>://] |
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http://www.magpul.com/catalog/images/PRS.JPG LOP Adjustment Range: 1.00 in.
Is it non-telescoping because it only adjusts 1"? Is it non-telescoping because it uses a little dial to adjust the length? Is it non-telescoping because it calls it "length of pull adjustment" not "collapsible"? By "it" what are you refering to? Really, it is simple. The "Stock" on a Magpul PRS, does NOT move - PERIOD! The actual part that moves is the "BUTT PLATE" - Get it? 
Some people just can't grasp things. This will probably go on forever. 
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If Magpul could reduce the length of the tan part by 5 inches....and increase the length of the silver rods which the dial extends by 5 inches.... Then the butt would expand and collapse 5" instead of just 1" when you turn the little dial - the stock wouldn't move - just the butt. ....and it would be legal in NY? 
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http://www.magpul.com/catalog/images/PRS_05.JPG If Magpul could reduce the length of the tan part by 5 inches....and increase the length of the silver rods which the dial extends by 5 inches.... Then the butt would expand and collapse 5" instead of just 1" when you turn the little dial - the stock wouldn't move - just the butt. ....and it would be legal in NY? Please stay on topic. Let's not go off on a tangent with "what if's" , it just complicates the discussion. As posted above, the Magpul PRS is not a "collapsible" stock, therfore it is legal in NYS. |