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10/19/2007 6:52:28 AM EDT
What justifies the $800 price difference between the USP Tactical .45 and the Mark 23?
10/19/2007 7:06:51 AM EDT
[#1]
Bigger gun, bigger wallet.

10/19/2007 7:12:05 AM EDT
[#2]
I've wondered that myself......

Would it make you more 1337 ???



10/19/2007 7:41:06 AM EDT
[#3]

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What justifies the $800 price difference between the USP Tactical .45 and the Mark 23?


Because the Navy SEALs use it, duh!

Really you are getting a bigger pistol that will be a little more accurate and more controllable under rapid fire.  They really are an amazing combat .45 pistols that have been tested to no end.

Between the two, if money is an issue, I would get the Tactical.  It does what the MK23 can do in a smaller package.  If I had extra cash I would pick up the MK23 as well just for the history and the WOW factor. Same reason I would get a deagle (though the MK23 would be a little more practical).  

Here is the gun in action

www.hkpro.com/video/Mark%2023-MK23.mov

and some info if you have not already seen it

www.hkpro.com/socom.htm

10/19/2007 8:42:58 AM EDT
[#4]
If your starting to creep into the 1500 range anyway you should seriously consider the STI tactical.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=88&t=469393
There is a reason almost everyone uses a 1911 format in USPSA, they can be tuned more easely and handle better. And if you took the two apart you would find the STI to be a better made pistol.
Here's one in action, and you can see this one actualy hitting targets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cay7UTL8nPk&mode=related&search=
The first time you pick one up you'll be impressed, the first time you shoot one you'll be in love.
10/19/2007 8:54:20 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I've wondered that myself......

Would it make you more 1337 ???





The stability of the MK23 allows for Bunny Hopping
10/19/2007 9:06:08 AM EDT
[#6]
No, no, it's because the Mark23 is a crew-served handgun whereas the Tactical is not!
10/19/2007 9:18:18 AM EDT
[#7]

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No, no, it's because the Mark23 is a crew-served handgun whereas the Tactical is not!


When I was in "the teams" I was the assistant gunner for the Mark23.  I carried 4 extra barrels and 4000 rounds of AP HE SABOT .45ACP.  shhh...  I'm not supposted to talk about it.  



Mark.
10/19/2007 10:00:00 AM EDT
[#8]

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What justifies the $800 price difference between the USP Tactical .45 and the Mark 23?


To me...nothing.

I ended up getting the Tactical.

That said, the Mark 23 is a monster .45 ACP gun, but surprisingly light. Of course the non-compatible parts, different thread pitch, high price point, different mags, etc. etc. make it more of a "custom" gun than anything else.
10/19/2007 10:31:29 AM EDT
[#9]

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What justifies the $800 price difference between the USP Tactical .45 and the Mark 23?



It's like asking what's the difference between a Wilson Combat and a Government Colt .45.

Have you shot one? If you had, you wouldn't ask.

If they made them in a Post Sample, I'd have one.

Pat

10/19/2007 11:36:23 AM EDT
[#10]
The reason I'm asking is that I want to use one as a host for a .45 YHM can.
Money isn't a big deal............but I don't want to be foolish either.

I'm not into spending $800 more for a gun that is almost the same. But if everyone has specifics as to why a person would benefit by having one over the other. I'm interested in hearing it, so I can make the best judgement.

I'm thinking by Pats reply...................its the shit, and I need one!!!!

Anyone got one to try out?
10/19/2007 11:45:40 AM EDT
[#11]
better bring a tac. with the mk to test side-by-side to see if you can feel the 800... might only be 300 your feeling .  

Don't forget NoAims points as they're valid.
10/19/2007 11:52:15 AM EDT
[#12]


You are right. If I can feel $300 I will justify the remaining $500

I probably need to try 'em together. Anyone bringing some to Pat's?
10/19/2007 11:58:53 AM EDT
[#13]

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You are right. If I can feel $300 I will justify the remaining $500

I probably need to try 'em together. Anyone bringing some to Pat's?


I do not have a Mark 23, but I can bring out the Tactical (although I think Pat has one) if desired.
10/19/2007 12:08:36 PM EDT
[#14]

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You are right. If I can feel $300 I will justify the remaining $500

I probably need to try 'em together. Anyone bringing some to Pat's?


I will have my tactical on hip if you would like to try it
10/19/2007 12:10:46 PM EDT
[#15]
Sweet, I should be getting my .50AE today to trade trigger time.
10/19/2007 12:30:50 PM EDT
[#16]

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Sweet, I should be getting my .50AE today to trade trigger time.


Sweet!  I have never shot one before
10/19/2007 1:17:26 PM EDT
[#17]

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Sweet, I should be getting my .50AE today to trade trigger time.


Were you the guy at the HTF Shoot last September that let me try the 50 AE? or was that another arfcomer.. That thing was trying to rip my hand off.
10/19/2007 2:44:24 PM EDT
[#18]

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Sweet, I should be getting my .50AE today to trade trigger time.


Were you the guy at the HTF Shoot last September that let me try the 50 AE? or was that another arfcomer.. That thing was trying to rip my hand off.


You have to have man-hands. Not little Asian girly hands.
10/19/2007 3:43:08 PM EDT
[#19]

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Sweet, I should be getting my .50AE today to trade trigger time.


Were you the guy at the HTF Shoot last September that let me try the 50 AE? or was that another arfcomer.. That thing was trying to rip my hand off.


You have to have man-hands. Not little Asian girly hands.


u--><--teh ghey
10/19/2007 3:44:51 PM EDT
[#20]

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Sweet, I should be getting my .50AE today to trade trigger time.


Were you the guy at the HTF Shoot last September that let me try the 50 AE? or was that another arfcomer.. That thing was trying to rip my hand off.


You have to have man-hands. Not little Asian girly hands.


Thats what I was thinking
10/19/2007 4:00:18 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

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Sweet, I should be getting my .50AE today to trade trigger time.


Were you the guy at the HTF Shoot last September that let me try the 50 AE? or was that another arfcomer.. That thing was trying to rip my hand off.


You have to have man-hands. Not little Asian girly hands.


Thats what I was thinking


U--><---teh ghey
10/19/2007 4:31:17 PM EDT
[#22]
Some people have super extra long fingers like in Dracula movies. Some of these people have small hands, yet with their snake-like extra long bony fingers their total reach exceeds my extra large glove size by at least an inch or two.
10/19/2007 5:42:36 PM EDT
[#23]
Get the USP Tac.

The Mark 23 is just ridiculously big.  What Noaim said is correct.

The 23 does have a sweet adjustable trigger though.

The USP tac even comes in a cool case, just like the mark 23.

I'll be in the market for a USP tac one of these days.
10/20/2007 2:26:46 AM EDT
[#24]
If I make it out I'll bring mine today. It's still up in the air if I'll make it.
If you're patient and spend some time looking. putting out feelers, and all the other effort to find a good deal, they can be had for about 1300 used, instead of the 1800+ new. Mine was like new, only drawback is it's not old enough to have the slide lock. Midway is the ticket for mags.
10/20/2007 4:57:49 AM EDT
[#25]
This might be off topic here but my wife treated the wounds of an SF soldier in Afghanistan that had his Mk 23 KB while practicing with it. I don’t know the cause or if one was ever determined. Just speculating I’d guess it was ammunition related. I mentioned this elsewhere and the comment was made that that’s what happens when you buy your ammo from the lowest bidder.  
10/20/2007 6:45:38 AM EDT
[#26]
Page 2 is mine bitches!!!!




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Sweet, I should be getting my .50AE today to trade trigger time.


Were you the guy at the HTF Shoot last September that let me try the 50 AE? or was that another arfcomer.. That thing was trying to rip my hand off.


Not me.........Mine just came in the mail yesterday. I'll have it at Pat's by 11:00 at the latest!!!