Posted: 8/5/2010 5:46:52 PM EDT
Does anyone know anything about the legalities of Microtech knives here in Iowa. Reading the code it looks like they are not legal without a CCW however if you go to some websites that talk about knife legalities of different states it says they are legal to carry and own in Iowa. Is that talking about without the permit? I guess I am not getting this. I wouldn't want to pay 200-500 dollars for a knife (basic Microtech) if I couldn't carry it.I understand that you can carry defensive weapons such as tasers, knives with blades over 5 inches and others however what is the legality of the Microtech's in general?However I do have a permit, but I'm wanting to cover my bases if for some reason I'm not able to renew my permit (out of town etc..) and I come back and its not valid.Any help would be great |
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You can not carry an automatic knife in Iowa unless you; A) LEO or on active military duties, B) have a CCW permit AND antomatic knives are listed as well as firearms, (I am not certain if this is still in practice, need to read new legislation.....anyway used to be you could only carry what type of weapon was listed on permit, ie fireams only).
As far as ownership, you are fine, transportation, in trunk like firearm without permit, and home fine. This also goes for double edged knives (durks and daggers in the Iowa code, and blade lengths over 5 inches. Remember folks owning them is cool, just don't carry them. (Addendum, sheathed knives for hunting and camping isn't a problem) Hope that helps, Romper |
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B) have a CCW permit AND antomatic knives are listed as well as firearms, (I am not certain if this is still in practice, need to read new legislation.....anyway used to be you could only carry what type of weapon was listed on permit, ie fireams only). ...that was never 100% true. iowa's former permit just like the new permit (1-1-2011) is a permit to carry weapons. "weapons" were never defined specifically as one thing or another. unless your permit actually was restricted to one type or types of weapon(s) then you'd be legal. if you have a valid permit then i'd challenge somebody to show me where in the iowa code it says you have to have 'written' approval by your sheriff for a specific weapon choice. no offense to anyone here, but i'm of the opinion that particular knife issue has been long misunderstood and misapplied just like the loaded magazine issue... |
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Agree'd The only restriction I have is "not valid for long guns" which I've got no reason to CCW a long gun! HAHAHA Quoted: Quoted: B) have a CCW permit AND antomatic knives are listed as well as firearms, (I am not certain if this is still in practice, need to read new legislation.....anyway used to be you could only carry what type of weapon was listed on permit, ie fireams only). ...that was never 100% true. iowa's former permit just like the new permit (1-1-2011) is a permit to carry weapons. "weapons" were never defined specifically as one thing or another. unless your permit actually was restricted to one type or types of weapon(s) then you'd be legal. if you have a valid permit then i'd challenge somebody to show me where in the iowa code it says you have to have 'written' approval by your sheriff for a specific weapon choice. no offense to anyone here, but i'm of the opinion that particular knife issue has been long misunderstood and misapplied just like the loaded magazine issue... I thought they were auto's I might have to go back and look, I guess some of them could just be assisted openers.. Quoted: There should be no reason you couldn't have it as long as it isn't over 5 inches or (I think) one of those auto blades. |
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I personally carry a sog trident every single day. It is a spring assisted folder. I also carry a Assisted Folder from Sog but I've just dug the Microtech knives just don't know if I'd be able to carry it Well, there was a guy at the last Fair Grounds Gun show that was selling them. He works almost all shows and sells almost nothing but knives. I do know something like the Infidel from Benchmade is legal. They sell it at Sportsmans Warehouse in Ames. It's an OTF knife, which by Iowa law (if I'm reading this right) is still legal as long as it's not switch operated. The infidel from Benchmade requires you to move a slider about a 1/2in to activate the blade. I would say if Microtech makes some in an assisted form then it's perfectly legal. As for how the new Carry permit effects the ability to carry switch blades, I will definitely be waiting for an answer on it! Here's a copy of Iowa knife laws I found. (don't know how CCW effects it) Iowa - Crime Control and Criminal Acts - Definitions. 702.7. Dangerous weapon. A "dangerous weapon" is any instrument or device designed primarily for use in inflicting death or injury upon a human being or animal... Dangerous weapons include, but are not limited to, any offensive weapon... firearm, dagger, razor, stiletto, switchblade knife, or knife having a blade exceeding five inches in length. - 724.4. Carrying weapons. 1. Except as provided in this section, a person who goes armed with a dangerous weapon concealed on or about the person... commits an aggravated misdemeanor. 2. A person who goes armed with a knife concealed on or about the person, if the person uses the knife in the commission of a crime, commits an aggravated misdemeanor. 3. A person who goes armed with a knife concealed on or about the person, if the person does not use the knife in the commission of a crime: a. If the knife has a blade exceeding eight inches in length, commits an aggravated misdemeanor. b. If the knife has a blade exceeding five inches in length but not exceeding eight inches in length, commits a serious misdemeanor. 4. Subsections 1 through 3 do not apply to any of the following: a. A person who goes armed with a dangerous weapon in the person's own dwelling or place of business... b-d. [officials] h. A person who carries a knife used in hunting or fishing, while actually engaged in lawful hunting or fishing. i. [valid permit] - 724.1. Offensive Weapons... 5. A ballistic knife. A ballistic knife is a knife with a detachable blade which is propelled by a spring-operated mechanism, elastic material, or compressed gas... Section 724.3. Any person... who knowingly possesses an offensive weapon commits a class "D" felony... (Also see Section 724.4. carrying weapons.) Iowa Case Law: - "Intent was essential element in determining whether defendant who was found in possession of ten-inch kitchen knife was guilty of crime of carrying a concealed weapon." (1974) - "Defendant, who was found carrying two pocketknives, one in pocket and one on chain around his neck under his shirt, could not be convicted of carrying concealed dangerous weapons without proof of intent to use knives as weapons." (1966) - "Intended illegal use of knife cannot be inferred from defendant's bad reputation or former convictions for assault." (1966) - "Actual intent of user is not the issue in deciding whether instrument or device is dangerous..." (1984) http://www.knife-expert.com |
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get an emerson karambit. it's not spring operated, but it's MUCH faster to deploy than any auto knife. I carry an Emerson CQC-7 with the wave. Basically when I pull it out of my pocket it deploys. Love it. where did you get that ? an how much ? when i took my ccw class a guy had one ive wanted one ever since |
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Quoted: Quoted: get an emerson karambit. it's not spring operated, but it's MUCH faster to deploy than any auto knife. I carry an Emerson CQC-7 with the wave. Basically when I pull it out of my pocket it deploys. Love it. here's a video of a guy that ended up on the wrong end of a karambit.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nd0j01O0BY |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: get an emerson karambit. it's not spring operated, but it's MUCH faster to deploy than any auto knife. I carry an Emerson CQC-7 with the wave. Basically when I pull it out of my pocket it deploys. Love it. here's a video of a guy that ended up on the wrong end of a karambit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nd0j01O0BY Holy cow that's gotta hurt! |
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get an emerson karambit. it's not spring operated, but it's MUCH faster to deploy than any auto knife. I carry an Emerson CQC-7 with the wave. Basically when I pull it out of my pocket it deploys. Love it. where did you get that ? an how much ? when i took my ccw class a guy had one ive wanted one ever since I got mine off of Ebay - my brother liked it so much he went out and got the same model but with the partially serrated blade. My CQC-7 Tanto with the stonewash finish ran $114 brand new IIRC. |