Mini 2-gun instead > Minnesota

Posted: 6/10/2010 8:37:34 AM EDT

Guys - just for your information:

Friends of Del-Tone;
On June 8th I was informed by the Zoning dept of Sherburne County that we are in violation of our 1995 Conditional Use Permit (CUP) that was initiated before I purchased the Gun Range in 2002, that CUP allowed for Del-Tone to operate a Rifle range /gun club/range.
The county has taken the position that the CUP does not allow for Handguns to be shot on the range even though they have known for years /decades that handguns have been always used at Del-Tone.I have retained an attorney to assist in this matter and to resolve the issue as soon as possible.
In the meantime , with regret , we must abide by the order and disallow all handgun shooting until further notice.
Rifles and shot guns are still allowed on the various ranges, just handguns/pistols/revolvers are not allowed until we can sort it out.
I would ask for your patience and support ,as this issue moves forward, I would also hope that you can support me at the township meetings and County Board hearings as we try to get the CUP revised for handguns.
I apologize for this course of action but we have no choice at this point, I will keep you advised through our website , letters and by all means please feel free to call the clubhouse.
Regards
Randy Luth
President Del-Tone/Luth Gun Range

I would prefer to keep the range going by having the rifle/shotgun portions of the normal 3-gun shoot coming up this Sunday, and at the future dates of the normal mini 3-guns. I think our show of support both on and off the range would go a long way toward paying Randy Luth back for all that he has done for the shooting industry and the shooters. It would also help to stave off the anti-gun crowd that is constantly one complaint away from closing down countless ranges in this state.

Anyone else still in for a Mini 2-gun?

Posted: 6/10/2010 9:08:37 AM EDT

[#1]

Too bad to here about the pistol shooting. I am still game for the mini 2 guns. Kind of like the tactical only sessions we had last year and they were still a blast.

Posted: 6/10/2010 9:14:33 AM EDT

[#2]

I was thinking what a good thing it would be to focus on Shotgun and Rifle only for a couple of matches.

Posted: 6/10/2010 9:37:25 AM EDT

[#3]

So the match is still on, its just rifle and shotgun???
Ill still be there if so.

Posted: 6/10/2010 9:58:16 AM EDT

[#4]

Randy told me that he hoped the shooters that normally would come to the mini 3-gun would still want to come to a mini 2-gun match instead. Should be very interesting and a lot of fun.

Posted: 6/10/2010 11:41:23 AM EDT

[#5]

I hope it's settled by Z Day next year. Being a rookie, I'll still be there to help setup. Picked up my Unclecooter carbine last night, and can't wait to heat it up.

Of course I just spent my allowance on 9mm bullets.

Posted: 6/10/2010 11:55:26 AM EDT

[#6]

Will there still be five stages does anyone know? Eliminate the pistol only stage and do another shotgun stage or some such?

Posted: 6/10/2010 11:58:58 AM EDT

[#7]

Eric I am making that assumption but please don't hold me to that. I am not in charge, just trying to help keep these shoots going.

Posted: 6/10/2010 12:21:36 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Eric I am making that assumption but please don't hold me to that. I am not in charge, just trying to help keep these shoots going.

Payne I wont hold you too anything, just was not sure if you had talked to the people in charge to see what they might be modifying.

Either way I'm still going for practice and to show support. Five is better then four, but four is much better then none. I'd still shoot Tri Gun up there even if they had to change the name to Duce Gun.

Posted: 6/10/2010 12:38:01 PM EDT

[#9]

"Duce Gun" - good one

Posted: 6/13/2010 3:31:28 PM EDT

[#10]

The two gun match was great. I didn't even miss the pistol.

I thought I wasn't going to like stage three, but after I shot it it ended up as my favorite!

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Posted: 6/13/2010 7:36:59 PM EDT

[#11]

great match. lots of fun.

It was kind of nice getting some more time in on the rifle and shotgun since thats what I need the most practice with.

Posted: 6/14/2010 2:45:57 AM EDT

[#12]

Excellent shoot. It was nice to concentrate ont just the rifle and shotgun. Good stages, nice weather, and around 35 shooters made for a great day.

Posted: 6/14/2010 3:43:59 AM EDT

[#13]

It was a great time. I'd like to thank the guys in my squad for being so helpful and patient with the noob. I learned a lot from some very skilled and competitive shooters.

Posted: 6/14/2010 6:18:05 AM EDT

[#14]

I am curious how many people tried, or saw someone in their squad try, the 30 yrd. partial headshots instead of running up to the barricade on Stage #3. Just curious.

I really like stages that allow you to make choices as to how you will run it based on your known abilities.

Posted: 6/14/2010 6:30:29 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
I am curious how many people tried, or saw someone in their squad try, the 30 yrd. partial headshots instead of running up to the barricade on Stage #3. Just curious.

I really like stages that allow you to make choices as to how you will run it based on your known abilities.

One shooter (our first shooter) on our squad shot them from 30 yards and got his hits.
It just seemed faster to charge them, to me. If my JP upper would have had a bayonet lug, they might have been stuck a few times, too.

I didn't think the 200 yard bay was going to be that hard but at almost every position I started with the barrel or gas block touching the obstacle.

Posted: 6/14/2010 8:47:17 AM EDT

[#16]

Keith

I am ordering the new JP extra length handguard as soon as they are available for just that reason. I hope to make it to SCAPSA on Sat., I will be at Fort Benning on Friday for Tyler's graduation.

Posted: 6/14/2010 9:23:51 AM EDT

[#17]

It was a fun shoot. Glad the weather cooperated and we had a good turn out. In our squad we had one guy make the head shoots.

Posted: 6/14/2010 9:44:16 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Keith

I am ordering the new JP extra length handguard as soon as they are available for just that reason. I hope to make it to SCAPSA on Sat., I will be at Fort Benning on Friday for Tyler's graduation.

Can't wait for the new handguard!

Say hi to Tyler.

Posted: 6/14/2010 9:58:06 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Keith

I am ordering the new JP extra length handguard as soon as they are available for just that reason. I hope to make it to SCAPSA on Sat., I will be at Fort Benning on Friday for Tyler's graduation.

Can't wait for the new handguard!

Say hi to Tyler.

I hear there is a rumor going that the prototype handguard might be at the SCAPSA match.

Congrats to Tyler!

Posted: 6/14/2010 10:59:22 AM EDT

[#20]

Eric

If you want to demo that handguard on an actual rifle, I know of one that you could use.

Posted: 6/15/2010 6:31:09 AM EDT

[#21]

That was my second shoot at DPMS. Had a great time.

Posted: 6/16/2010 4:41:09 AM EDT

[#22]

I had two shooters from South Dakota on my squad for this shoot. Man they could shoot, it is nice to see the far reaching effects these shoots have.

Scores are up at www.del-tone-luth.com in the "shooting results" section.

Posted: 6/16/2010 6:05:41 AM EDT

[#23]

The results are kind of a pain to read, I liked the "old style" where they break it down more and put in it in finishing order rather then alphabetized. Oh well, something is better then nothing though that's for sure!

Posted: 6/16/2010 7:42:08 AM EDT

[#24]

I was told the results would be re-posted in the near future breaking the divisions down and the placings would then be in order. I don't know if they will break it down per stage or not.

Posted: 6/16/2010 8:24:45 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

I was told the results would be re-posted in the near future breaking the divisions down and the placings would then be in order. I don't know if they will break it down per stage or not.

That'd be cool. The stage break down would be nice so I can easily see how bad you whooped me.

Posted: 6/16/2010 9:42:46 AM EDT

[#26]

Wasn't a lot of "whoopin" going on. We sure had a squad of good shooters to push each other.

I am headed to Ft. Benning tomorrow and hope to be back for the SCAPSA 3-gun on Sat. See you (and the XL handguard) there.

Posted: 6/16/2010 7:45:55 PM EDT

[#27]

My buddy put it on a spread sheet somehow so it was setup how it used to be.
Sorry I cant seem to post it legibly with the spaces

FirstLastShotgun / OneShotgun / TwoShotgun/Rifle OneShotgun/Rifle TwoShotgun/Rifle ThreeTOTALClass
BrianPayne 3.0217.41121.143.0543.78228.36TO
TomDalton 0.019.28153.0257.0930.95250.35O
SethBauder 1521.73125.4950.944.47257.59TO
BobMills 0.689.52182.3154.2944.06290.86O
KenAnderson 8.7222.76183.8942.1938.09295.65TO
KurtNelson 18.7321.51126.1672.4359.96298.79TO
KeithUlfers 4.5613.8181.926138.03299.31TO
JaySchmidt 1.217.65188.5654.4946.9308.8TI
StewartThompson 18.6920.48152.7677.6854.64324.25TO
EricBrown 14.8623.24184.9457.4946.12326.65TO
DallasSmid -1.0914.79232.446.8547.74340.69O
ChrisCazin 9.8430.97172.3565.0572.08350.29TO
MarkPeters 9.926.98205.6370.950.23363.64TO
MikeVenMeeteren 19.7938.18189.5766.9356.22370.69TO
BillHartman 15.6620.75171.1699.0864.66371.31TO
ShaneZeppelin 21.9635.69165.9569.5285.94379.06TO
KevinRuesner 29.930.25207.3870.9961.37399.89TI
BradJolivette 12.4826.51245.4872.3649.78406.61TO
RyanZelinka 40.7424.82214.972.8553.84407.15TO
TravisWipf 30.743.2717972.4390.55415.95TO
KeithUlrick 19.7327.53223.1578.8871.41420.7TO
ChadOchsner 9.0240.36234.9874.9764.06423.39TO
RobertPolster 30.8730.45231.790.3683.71467.09TO
LeeW 10.1424.85278.697.9361.72473.24TO-H
TomLoberg 43.6237.98224.61105.32105.5517.03TO
JohnCedarberg 12.4916.31360.877.9885.58553.16O
DennisFalaas 34.5150.3275.1113.2398.31571.45TO
JeffAshland 42.0566.43278.49112.1975.08574.24TO
KentHicks 45.1957.02300.32143.1961.05606.77TO
KenSchwebach 66.5274.23249.21136.94106.25633.15TO
SteveCarter 68.3357.22237.55168.83108.52640.45TO
JimPolster 64.1849.75356.788.6101.32660.55TO
JamesBartolk 51.1946.97334.7141.2112.51686.57TO
ChrisLemotte 67.7848.29411.396.0792.14715.58TO
TerrySchopfer 46.377.77482.9180.752241,011.72TO

Posted: 6/17/2010 5:44:14 AM EDT

[#28]

I was going to attempt to put the info in a spreadsheet as well, just havn't had the time. Thanks to your buddy and thanks for posting it.

APD, you going to the SCAPSA match Saturday?

Posted: 6/17/2010 6:01:51 AM EDT

[#29]

FYI, the round count for Saturday is 64 rifle, 56 pistol, and 49 shotgun. Shotgun is all bird shot.

Posted: 6/17/2010 9:40:58 AM EDT

[#30]

No I wont, maybe someday though

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