Posted: 10/20/2007 6:38:58 PM EDT
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2nd grader suspended for drawing stick figure with gun Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/20/07 THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Story Chat Post Comment DENNIS TOWNSHIP — A second-grader's artistic effort has got him in trouble. Seven-year-old Kyle Walker was suspended for one day last week by school officials in Cape May County for drawing a stick figure shooting a gun. His mother told The Press of Atlantic City that officials at Dennis Township Primary School told her the drawing violated a zero-tolerance policy for guns. Shirley McDevitt said the boy told her the drawing showed a water gun and not a firearm. The case is not the first in New Jersey in which students were suspended for depictions of weapons. Four kindergarten boys were suspended in 2000 for playing cops and robbers, even though they were using their fingers as guns. |
I already have one, but my three year old ain't in schools yet. I hat to think how bad I would go off on those damn "school officials" who in all actuality are nothing more than PUBLIC SERVANTS, if they did this to my boy. I would find any way possible to take their jobs and pensions and health care and benefits away from them beyond pronto. Heaven forbid they should find out that he goes to the range with me, they'll probably call dyfs on me for raising my child the way I see fit.(can't have that now, can we?) |
| Kindergarteners for playing cops and robbers? KINDERGARTEN!?!?! Insanity, they wouldn't even understand that what they were doing was "wrong" according to the school. What ever happened to explaining to a child how their actions were wrong? Just suspend them and that's how they'll learn? Rediculous. |
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Are there any good weeks for us here in hell whenever the legislature is in session, at any time????? I didn't think so. |
| I would have filed a complaint against the school board, the principal, the teacher and any other individual who was involved in the decision to suspend the child claiming a violation of 1st Amendment rights as part of a civil rights section 1983 suit. I would also contact the NRA and see if they would help with the fight. This state sucks. |
What makes you think there's a 1st Amendment here in the PRNJ? In 1947, when they rewrote the state constitution, they eliminated the 2nd Amendment from the new document. And I agree. This state sucks. |
I agree, they have violated that child's First Amendment Rights. It would be different if the drawing was threatening in nature, but it wasn't. While the district may have a Zero Tolerance Policy in place regarding guns and/or violence, this was a young child's imaginative drawing, not an artistically drawn threat. What if a child said "Gun" in school? Is that actionable? What about books with guns in them? Would having and/or reading said books in that district also get a child suspended? What if a child brought a typical superhero comic book to school (as might be considered common)? Comic books have guns in them, sometimes, so would that now be a violation of the Zero Tolerance Policy? |
| I think you're all missing the picture here. All they're doing is indoctrinating and brainwashing these children, at the earliest possible age, into thinking anything and everything having anything at all whatsoever to do with any type of firearm, including revolutionary era flintlocks, is bad. Parental ideals and values be damned. Thought control people, that's all it is. AS I said earlier, it's all tied into their desire to enslave america. Why is it that over the last 60 or so years, as more and more restrictive laws have been passed, the situation(crime, violence, public shootings, etc.) has gotten worse, and more restrictive laws are written and passed, making the situation even worse, to the point when they eventually get enough popular support for the institution of martial law. Russia. Germany. Korea. Turkey. etc. |
I think everyone here gets it, that's why we're so pissed off about it. Unfortunately, it's a given as to why this type of shit continues to go on, and until we actually do something about it(I don't know exactly what that is) we're doomed to failure. |
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My kids have been told since day one of school to talk about nothing dealing with guns, knives, bombs, etc. while in school and to only talk about that stuff at home or amongst family. Does it suck? Yea but I think of it a societal camoflauge so that I do not have to deal with the "system" coming down on my kids. especially in THIS state. RW3 |
I understand your reasoning, however the way I see it, and this is only my useless opinion, is that it simply helps feed into their agenda of itemizing anything that has anything to do with any kind of weaponry as taboo. In you case, as I said I understand your reasons, but they have already gotten what they were after. Specifically the stifling of freedom of speech, and independent thought prosesses. You are merely helping them along and I fear your own child will end up unintentionally considering firearms, and their ownership, as something to conceal, making it feel like you ARE doing something wrong, because he will be constantly brainwashed with the old adage...."if you are not doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide." By keeping it hidden from the outside world, he may come out thinking you were doing something wrong for having to keep this facet of your lives hidden. And yes I know, it is a sad state of affairs, but I will NOT have my child think he cannot or should not speak of anything which he desires simply because of where he may happen to be geographically located at the time. |
