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8/10/2007 10:10:56 PM EDT
New laptop, and WiFi, guess where I am posting from.........
8/10/2007 10:15:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Somewhere anal spelunking is allowed?
8/10/2007 10:21:05 PM EDT
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From your home on a unsecured local Wi-Fi access point...
8/10/2007 10:24:14 PM EDT
[#3]
At the bottom of a pit with some creepy guy lowering a bottle of lotion in a basket to you?
8/10/2007 10:28:22 PM EDT
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From your home on a unsecured local Wi-Fi access point...



I set up a WEP
8/10/2007 10:38:20 PM EDT
[#5]

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From your home on a unsecured local Wi-Fi access point...



I set up a WEP


So it's almost completely unsecured.  WEP will keep out nosy people, much like the lock on your bathroom only keeps people from accidentally walking in on you.  Anyone determined will most likely get in.  
8/10/2007 10:40:26 PM EDT
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From your home on a unsecured local Wi-Fi access point...



I set up a WEP


So it's almost completely unsecured.  WEP will keep out nosy people, much like the lock on your bathroom only keeps people from accidentally walking in on you.  Anyone determined will most likely get in.  



ok, so educate me...................
8/10/2007 10:47:03 PM EDT
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From your home on a unsecured local Wi-Fi access point...



I set up a WEP


So it's almost completely unsecured.  WEP will keep out nosy people, much like the lock on your bathroom only keeps people from accidentally walking in on you.  Anyone determined will most likely get in.  



ok, so educate me...................


WEP < WPA < WPA2

If your router has the ability to use WPA2, that's the way you want to go.  AFAIK it's the most secure form of wireless currently available to the public.

ETA:  Also, most peoples weakest link to their security lies in the password.  A password like "doggy" is pretty weak and easily broken.  Something like "AkdIS9318SkdjfaSjf38S" might take a few years to crack.  

Of course, they could just break into your house and see the password on a sticker on your monitor.  
8/11/2007 6:24:31 AM EDT
[#8]

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From your home on a unsecured local Wi-Fi access point...



I set up a WEP


So it's almost completely unsecured.  WEP will keep out nosy people, much like the lock on your bathroom only keeps people from accidentally walking in on you.  Anyone determined will most likely get in.  



ok, so educate me...................


WEP < WPA < WPA2

If your router has the ability to use WPA2, that's the way you want to go.  AFAIK it's the most secure form of wireless currently available to the public.

ETA:  Also, most peoples weakest link to their security lies in the password.  A password like "doggy" is pretty weak and easily broken.  Something like "AkdIS9318SkdjfaSjf38S" might take a few years to crack.  

Of course, they could just break into your house and see the password on a sticker on your monitor.  

Nah, a good pair of binoculars can read that through the window from the car they are war-driving in
8/11/2007 6:54:21 AM EDT
[#9]
so the password:  stopsuckinghiscockhewasatrollanyways    is not a good one?
8/11/2007 6:56:53 AM EDT
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so the password:  stopsuckinghiscockhewasatrollanyways    is not a good one?


I hear that's what w2p uses on his computer....

ETA: The debbil made me say it!
8/11/2007 6:59:26 AM EDT
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I agree about the password thing, I always use at least 1 uppercase and one number in passwords. The hard part is writing them down in a notebook so I don't forget them. The notebook is in my pistol safe on the desk.
8/11/2007 7:04:11 AM EDT
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so the password:  stopsuckinghiscockhewasatrollanyways    is not a good one?




I find sentances are perfect passwords.  Then the hacker isn't trying to just guess your favorite word, he has to figure out the whole sentance.  Throw some Caps in there and an exclamation point and you're GOLD!
8/11/2007 7:14:35 AM EDT
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so the password:  stopsuckinghiscockhewasatrollanyways    is not a good one?




I find sentances are perfect passwords.  Then the hacker isn't trying to just guess your favorite word, he has to figure out the whole sentance.  Throw some Caps in there and an exclamation point and you're GOLD!


I just use and Identifier the .gov gave me about 30 years ago that isn't on the books anywhere anymore.  It has letters and numbers in it - some times I combine it with other ID's they gave me - then the difficulty is in figuring out which order they are in.  Sometimes I put a city name with it - again, what order, or capitolize certain letters in it.  These are all combinations that are easy for me to remember, difficult for someone to figure out what they are and what order they are in, etc..., and I don't have to write them down.
8/11/2007 7:29:26 AM EDT
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From your home on a unsecured local Wi-Fi access point...



I set up a WEP


So it's almost completely unsecured.  WEP will keep out nosy people, much like the lock on your bathroom only keeps people from accidentally walking in on you.  Anyone determined will most likely get in.  



ok, so educate me...................


WEP < WPA < WPA2

If your router has the ability to use WPA2, that's the way you want to go.  AFAIK it's the most secure form of wireless currently available to the public.

ETA:  Also, most peoples weakest link to their security lies in the password.  A password like "doggy" is pretty weak and easily broken.  Something like "AkdIS9318SkdjfaSjf38S" might take a few years to crack.  

Of course, they could just break into your house and see the password on a sticker on your monitor.  




Ehhh in all honesty... For your home connection, Not broadcasting the SID and using WEP is good enough.

There are more then enough stupid people that leave their wireless wide open so anyone looking to piggyback your connection can just drive down the street 200 yards and find one rather then trying to bust your connection.

If you REALLY want the best security, use the "access list" feature, you have to typen in the MAC address of each connecting device and ONLY those on the list will be allowed to connect.

8/11/2007 3:23:43 PM EDT
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I've seen as many as 3 cars at once in our parking lot at work, with someone using their laptop on my dime.

In three years, it hasn't caused me any grief yet, .....though it is fun to walk up and ask them for their name and room number.


You could always install a packet sniffer and watch what they're doing. It might be entertaining
8/11/2007 4:41:09 PM EDT
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No one single security feature is going to be 100% effective.  However, if you use multiple layers of security, it will be greater than 50% effective.

Use WEP / WPA / WPA2 in conjunction with MAC filtering, a disabled SSID broadcast and the use of strong passwords.  This week, a "strong password" is defined as having a minimum of eight characters and uses all of the following:  upper-case letters, lower-case letters, numbers and special characters / symbols.

"asshole" is not a good password.  "@5Sh0Le_69" is a better one.

As to the OP, I'm sure Bigscrun is surfing ARFCOM from the comfort of his shitter.
8/11/2007 4:50:33 PM EDT
[#17]
It is amazing how much free bandwidth there is to loot, I mean borrow.
8/11/2007 5:19:27 PM EDT
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It is amazing how much free bandwidth there is to loot, I mean borrow.


www.netstumbler.com/  
8/11/2007 9:38:30 PM EDT
[#19]
I'm curious how many ARFCOMMER's use "ilikepie".  
8/12/2007 12:15:01 AM EDT
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I'm curious how many ARFCOMMER's use "ilikepie".  


I like "M0R3P1E!"