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I have a few things for you to chew on...


I transplanted here from PA last Summer.

MANY things in NC are different to an "out of stater"

In NC, you can shoot an unidentified and unarmed home invader ONLY if you shoot him THROUGH the door during the process of breaking-in. Once he gets inside, if he is unarmed, you can't legally shoot him.

In PA, it's just the opposite. Unarmed or not, once they cross the threshold of the doorway...  you can blast 'em. Shooting through the door is a no-no.

Conceal Carry permits are a PITA and expensive...  without one, you can't buy a handgun... unless you get a pistol "purchase permit"... another PITA.
I took the required course...  which amounted to a waste of $50 and 4hrs of my time. The instructer was a joke, and I was embarrassed for him. He looked and sounded like a complete fool to anyone half familiar with a firearm.

In PA, I can walk in to any gun dealer in the state, buy a handgun and leave in 20 minutes... with nothing more than my PA drivers license.


Full Auto is apparently a big tadooda down here also...  

I brought a couple SBR's and suppressors with me... and all it took was a BATF change of address form (5320.20 I think??) and I was good to go. Paperwork/signoffs were all done in PA, so no NC Sheriff needed for my stuff to be here.

After learning of the CCW/DL "database" available to LEO's when they pull you over...  I chose NOT to get my carry permit. I still have a valid PA carry permit and plan to keep it... since I will likely be leaving this godforsaken state to return to my home state of PA...

Pretty much everything down here in NC is backwards.

You want a NC drivers license ?  You 'gotta take a 25 question test first. Doesn't matter if you are Mario Andretti or if you have a DL from another state....  You 'gotta pass the sign/eye exam and answer 25 questions. The questions are pathetic and have little to due with traffic safety. They are silly questions about statistics...  questions you will NEVER answer correctly unless you've read the drivers manual and memorized the stupidity. For example: "What is the most common type of highway accident in NC ??
What is the minimum penalty for underage drinking and driving in NC ?
What is the legal alcohol % DUI limit in NC ?

Oh, and be sure to have valid NC auto insurance before going for your drivers license. Without a valid NC auto insurance policy, they won't give you a license.

Funny thing is, the insurance company wants a valid NC drivers license before they give you a policy.

How screwed up is that ?

The driver licensing center also looked like it fell out of 1972. Cheap, dirty, dingy and just plain trailer-trashy. (Concord area)
The NC DOT center in Mooresville is just as pathetic, only with rude old hags behind the counter.  
And...  no NC title OR NC tags until you have your vehicle inspected at an authorized NC inspection station.
I chose to leave my PA tags on one of my trucks... due to the cost of swapping over. After inspection, tags,tax, etc... it was over $250+ to make the change.
In hindsight, I'm glad I did...  since I will be back in PA soon anyway.

Oh... and GOOD LUCK finding a place to shoot full auto down here.

I can't find a respectable/affordable range, or even a piece of land for that matter... just to shoot ANY of my firearms.
Back in PA, there were gun clubs everywhere...  probably 20+ of them in every county.

I'm sure in NV you are spoiled, having all the desert space to shoot...  You can forget about that kind of shooting freedom down here.

Being a weekly/monthly shooter... I'm looking forward to returning to PA where I can actually SHOOT the guns I own without having to give a testicle or $500 membership fee.

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Don't hold back, what do you really feel about NC???

Sorry we weren't up to par, if you had let us know ahead of time you were heading this way we would have spruced up the DMV offices and changed a few laws for ya. I bet PA is tickled to hear that it's getting a lost son back.

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I have a few things for you to chew on...


In NC, you can shoot an unidentified and unarmed home invader ONLY if you shoot him THROUGH the door during the process of breaking-in. Once he gets inside, if he is unarmed, you can't legally shoot him.

In PA, it's just the opposite. Unarmed or not, once they cross the threshold of the doorway...  you can blast 'em. Shooting through the door is a no-no.

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§ 14‑51.1.  Use of deadly physical force against an intruder.

(a)       A lawful occupant within a home or other place of residence is justified in using any degree of force that the occupant reasonably believes is necessary, including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry (i) if the occupant reasonably apprehends that the intruder may kill or inflict serious bodily harm to the occupant or others in the home or residence, or (ii) if the occupant reasonably believes that the intruder intends to commit a felony in the home or residence.

(b)       A lawful occupant within a home or other place of residence does not have a duty to retreat from an intruder in the circumstances described in this section.

(c)       This section is not intended to repeal, expand, or limit any other defense that may exist under the common law. (1993 (Reg. Sess., 1994), c. 673, s. 1.)

Source

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This. ^

You can shoot an unarmed attacker after they're in your house. It seems "reasonable" to me that anyone who is brazen enough to break into an occupied house obviously wouldn't hesitate to harm you or your family. Not to mention they're commiting a felony by breaking into your house. Stealing a TV (or anything else) after breaking in is also a felony. So, the way the law reads (and the way it was explained to me in a CCW class), is that t's ok to shoot an unarmed housebreaker. Legal issues aside, whether or not it's morally ok for someone to kill someone else for stealing is a matter for each individual to decide. I know what I'd do to protect me and mine. If I'm wrong, someone feel free to correct me.

And while it may be legal to shoot through a closed door, I sure wouldn't recommend it. Being unsure of your target and all isn't a good idea. You have no idea what's on the other side of a closed door regardless of how loud someone's banging on it. What if it's your neighbor trying to tell you your house is on fire? What if it's some deaf person who needs assistance and can't hear you yelling "Stop or I'll shoot!"?



As for NFA items, this will vary from county to county depending on the Sheriff. But, you can always do the trust/llc route. As far as I know, Mecklenburg and Cabarrus are definately out as far as the Sheriff signing off any forms. I was treated like a criminal for asking to speak with the Sheriff about signing off on an SBR and told in front of about 20 people that "there was no way in HELL" he'd sign off on a "weapon of mass death and destruction". I've known others who have successfully used the trust/llc route successfully in my county though.

Move where you want, skip the CLEO issue with a trust/llc, keep your mouth shut and get what you want. Just make sure everything's in order. North Carolina is a great place to live. I've been around the world three times and love calling North Carolina home.

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Conceal Carry permits are a PITA and expensive...  without one, you can't buy a handgun... unless you get a pistol "purchase permit"... another PITA.
I took the required course...  which amounted to a waste of $50 and 4hrs of my time. The instructer was a joke, and I was embarrassed for him. He looked and sounded like a complete fool to anyone half familiar with a firearm.