Posted: 9/2/2006 5:31:01 PM EDT
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I was relaxing by my pool doing a little BBQ'n. I hear a noise, turn around and see a big ass Pit Bull staring at me. Then the mother fucker starts barking and snarling at me. I know those ribs smelled good, but that fucker wasn't getting them!! My gun was about 10 ft. away. I thought for sure that fucker was going to attack before I got to it. I slowly made my way over to the table and picked it up. Now lets see how tuff he is! As soon as I got a bead on him he seemed to sense he'd better retreat. He barked and growled at me a few more times, but finally left. I'm really glad because I would have hated to have to kill him. What really pisses me off is that people let dogs like that roam around terrorizing people and other pets. I live in the country and you get dogs running free all the time. But FUCK! If your going to have nasty dogs, you have to be responsible and keep them confined. I know where the dog lives and will be talking to the owner tomorrow. Not sure how that will go. They are the only "Bro's" in the area (of course) and probably won't like having the "Redneck" neighbor telling them to fix the problem or I will. They have at least three Pit's that I have seen running around my property. This is the first time we have come face to face. One more reason I don't like Pit Bulls, and most Pit Bull owners.  ETA: Suggestions on how to handle this welcome |
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Okay, I'm a dog lover and owner and I know how I would feel if someone dropped the hammer on my pet. Pit bulls who have been trained to be aggressive towards people are a different story. We're taling about the safety of you and your neighbors (and possibly your neighbors kids). If he comes around again and behaves like that I would drop his ass - period. BWT - Keeping a gun 10 feet from your grill? Do you guys have a problem with meat robbers in your neighborhood? 
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I have 3 pits living next door. My property is fenced, theirs isn't. They run loose. I don't want to get into a dog killin contest with the neighbors unless one of their dogs is caught in the act of attacking me or mine. So my weapom of choice is a wrist rocket style sling shot. As I am an avid bow hunter, using a slingshot is a snap. I can harass at 100 yds, and really make the pits want to unass the area at anything under 60 yds. This works very well for me, and I don't mind cutting loose anytime I see the dogs. But I will kill them before they draw blood from my animals or family. So far, they have a real good idea where my property line is, and they stay away. |
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I hunt on my buddy's place in the middle-east (Middle East Georgia), and I have been instucted to kill any canine without a collar. The last thing they want there is to have feral dogs running around and making more feral dogs, they are a threat to the safety of any people they come in contact with. Now keep in mind that I am an avid bird hunter and love all canine hunting companions, however any animal wild or domesticated animal that poses a threat to a human should be put down by any means necessary. As for meat bandits, the last one that got meat from me was taken out and chained to a tree. The bandit barked for about an hour and was later relased back the yard. |
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We kill more frigging Pitt's than just about any other dog. As a matter of fact, I can't think of the last time someone killed one that wasn't a Pitt. A buddy of mine about 4 months ago went to a domestic and had one latch onto his wrist-broke his wrist in 3 places before he managed to kill it. I spoke with him just today and he told me that he put down another one last night-made a canoe out of his head with some 00 Buck from about 3 feet. Another buddy of mine killed one last week attacking a horse. I've been fortunate, I've come across 3 Pitt's in the past week and they have all been friendly to me. As long as they aren't growling or are overly aggressive at me, I'll hold the back of my hand out-with my forearm 90 degrees to the ground, while I have my gun in my other hand. I figure if they do become aggressive, they'll latch onto my non-gun arm while I get to shoot it. Fortunately, the last 3 have been real friendly, I'll open the back door to the Patrol Car and they jumped right in so I could meet with animal control somewhere. The one thing I have noticed is that I have yet to come across a Pitt Bull owner who wasn't a shitbag-which is why you see so many just running around unleashed and unsupervised, the owners could give a rat's ass about being a responsible pet owner. My buddy doesn't even give Pitt's the chance to do anything anymore-as soon as they stare him down and start growling he just kills it-which due to his past experience I can't say I'd blame him. ETA: Since you asked how to handle them-if they become aggressive as in wander onto YOUR turf and start growling at you. I'd say that they are definetely a safety hazard to you and the public at large. As long as you have a safe backstop you'd be perfectly justified in doing it in. |
Waiting for Bill to comment.  Or, me to be sober. (I had a few beers tonight after a nice day at the range with good friends ).Will say this - it is the dog, not the TYPE of dog. I've seen Snoopy dogs (i.e. beagles) be mean. But will admit certain breeds are more prone to violence. My opinion. Allen, your thoughts welcome here, my good friend! |
I agree completely. I'm a dog owner, but how bad would you feel if that dog went down the street afterwards and grabbed some little 5 year old who was swinging in their back yard? I hate when big dogs are allowed to roam the neighborhood. They are dangerous to other people I don't give a DAMN what their owner says. Big dogs like that can kill little kids and think they're just playing chase! I keep a paintball gun loaded by the back door. When I see big dogs running loose in my yard, I shoot them. I figure they'll go home, the owner will find the lime green goo on their dog and realize it's been a nuisance somewhere, and that somebody's taking aim at Kujo.  Of course when I actually GO outside, I always have a Glock 21/23/27 on my hip. |
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I'm a cat owner and animal lover in general here but if an animal that's capable of doing that type of damage threatens me or somebody I love when I'm not on its turf then it will get dealt with before I have to bleed because of it...or wind up having my wrist snapped (ouch!!!) It sounds like having a talk with the dogs owner is a good idea and if he's a decent person that will be the last time it happens. Hope it goes well for all involved. |
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IBG - In before Graziani... <graziani> You shoulda Fox sprayed it.</graziani>
+1 -- or the property owner if they're renters. A guy staying with my next door neighbors had a couple of crazy mid-sized mutts. I almost shot 'em in my front yard last year. They were attacking a lady pushing a baby carriage. I started yelling at them and they charged me. They pulled up a little short, and I was in my front yard, so I didn't pull the trigger, but I did draw down on them. The lady w/ the baby hauled ass, so I don't know if she was actually bitten. We called animal control, but they were useless since I didn't actually have the dogs, and couldn't prove they attacked somebody. I talked to my neighbor about liability and the possiblitity of losing his house to a lawsuit. The dogs were gone a couple of weeks later. I need to get some fox spray still. |
AT a minimum, brand his ass with one of these and send him home:  BBQ Branding tool |
Thats a bad situation. Shooting someones dog for doing what they raised it to do could cause some bad feelings...But in my opinion, I would have blasted it if it came any closer. People who brag about how mean thier dogs are are usually just trash anyways, Now if they have a dog that is tough when it needs to be is a different story. But Just plain mean and wants to kill everything that it sees....Needs to be put down And I have to say that, Because I love animals...I had a 100 pound American bulldog, that looked mean...But he was a big stupid puppy. And for the record I have been bitten by more small dogs than Medium/large dogs...To me they are no different. They may not hurt me or you but what about our kids? If a Chuihuahua but my daughter, It would get the same treatment. If it came into my yard and acted erratic, Well, I am sure I could punt a chuihuahua all the way out of my yard.....And I generally am "Strapped" outside, For the bigger ones. But thankfully most of the people in my neighborhood Have common sense and children....But the next road over is a bunch of goons....
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| I defend dogs and especially Pitts to the end. I own a pitt. I hate to hear of one being shot. All that being said, if he is in your yard, growling at you, he needed to die. And the owner of the dog should be warned about letting his dog run loose unsupervised. I have defended the dogs many times in the past, but it has always been when the dog was where he was supposed to be, ie, in his own yard, truck, house, wherever. In this case, you had every right to shoot him before he hurt you or someone else. |
Well, I spoke with the neighbor this morning. It went about as expected.  He said it couldn't possibly be his dogs, "their friendly and never leave the yard". Funny, he had to put them in the house when I drove up and they were barking and growling the whole time I was there. Even when he hollered at them to shut up.  I told him about the situation and said if it happened again I would shoot the dog. He and his wife then started yelling at me. Telling me, ''you better not shoot my dog's''!! At that point I told them they had nothing to worry about since "they couldn't possibly be your friendly dogs" Hopefully he will take my warning seriously and do something about it. I like the paintball idea. Kinda hard to deny it was your dog when he has a big neon green dot on him.
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About the paintballs, if your neighbors take their innocent painted pup to the vet to be treated and have proof you did it, guess who's going to be paying the vet bill? You are 100% liable. Well, it is your yard, and since the neighbors dogs never leaves their property, why not leave a hamburger packed full of rat poison in your backyard where nobody elses dog should ever be? It's not like you have someplayful pups running around, hope to God those pits don't corner any kids. When the pits get sick your neighbors won't have any proof how they got sick. I fenced my yard to keep my black lab in, not to keep other dogs out. A buddy at work related a similar story, he called the cops, the arriving officer said next time just shoot the pit. I love dogs too, so when a young lab kept terrorizing my garbage can I mentioned at work how I wrapped wire around the can and plugged it in to just to scare the dog away. A guy went ballistic, after his rant I asked, "you have a big dog to don't you?" well he said yes, I asked "you let it run loose all the time don't you" he said yea why? I said why don't you shut the F up and come pick up my garbage next time #sshole. He didn't say anything to that. |
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Well, imaging yourself in small claims court, can you prove it was their dog that was in your yard 10 other times? Its their word against yours and there are two of them swearing that this was the first time their dog ever got out. So the judge will ask what gives you the right to paintball their dog, you probably won't hurt it but they may still take it to the vet, and they wouldn't have had to shell out $300 if it wasn't for some nut with a paintball gun. If its an animal sympathetic judge, your screwed. As far as what else might eat a poison burger in your yard, well you could loose a possum, a racoon, a coyote, another stray dog, (any of which could be rabid) yea gee, I guess I'd reconsider. Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned something that doesn't belong in my yard is the same as someone who breaks into my house, their life is forfeit. This is your problem however and your free to do as you wish. The first thing you should do is call the Police and animal control to establish that there is a problem. |
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I live in the central downtown historical neighborhood in my town & houses are very close together. There was a problem lab mix that would run free, could climb over my fence and get my dogs stirred up, eat the food off the back porch, turn garbage over etc. He was actually pretty friendly, just a dumbass undisciplined pooch. He started coming regularly very night when my dogs were in right after we went to bed. Wife was concerned about pissing neighbors off by talking to them about it, didn't like my suggestion of calling them at midnight to come get their f-in dog, didn't want me to go vigilante about it. Finally I waited up for it one evening with a Gamo BB pistol when the family was visiting in laws. When he arrived I went arround and ambushed him on my back porch, chased him around the yard stinging his ass until he climbed back out. I landed about 5 on him and each one got a good yelp. After that he never came back in the yard, and if he saw me during the day he would turn and run the other direction. I'd handle this differently if it was a more threatening dog. How, I don't know. |
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Animal cruelty can be prosecuted as a felony. I suspect that leaving poisoned hamburger might fall into this category since you are not being directly threatened at the time the animal is poisoned. Since you've already warned them that you're gonna shoot their dog the next time, you'd be a likely suspect if they suspect their dog was poisoned. I'd give a +1 to the person who suggested contacting animal control and starting a history of complaints. I'd log the person's name who took the complaint as well as the time and date you made the complaint. I'd log the date and time you talked to the owners too. Make sure you mention this to the animal control officer and what they said and their attitude. Tell them you were in fear for your safety as well as the safety of your family and the kids in the neighborhood since the animal was very aggressive. So far you've acted more or less like a reasonable person. You warned the dog off and talked to the owners. Next step make a complaint. If they are renters, you might be able to talk to the owner of the house and get them evicted. http://www.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/pub/ocode/ocgsearch?docname=OCode/G/16/12/4 The Statutes posted are current through the 2001 Regular Session of the General Assembly. However, the Statutes posted from the 2001 Regular Session may not yet be in effect. Users of this service should note that the effective date of the Statutes are not listed on this service and are advised to verify the effective date of any Statutes posted on this Web Site. Any person or entity who relies on information obtained solely from this Site does so at his or her own risk. Previous Section Next Section 16-12-4 G *** CODE SECTION *** 12/03/01 16-12-4. (a) As used in this Code section, the term: (1) "Animal" shall not include any fish nor shall such term include any pest that might be exterminated or removed from a business, residence, or other structure. 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Do you have a camera on your cell phone? if so take a picture of the dog next time he is in your yard...A picture is worth a thousand words...They wont be able to deny it. Then take it to them and animal control....Shooting a dog in self defense is like shooting a person in self defense. You have to be "In fear for your life or the lives of others" Sorry to say, But It wouldnt happen again if it was my house. I have 2 small children as well as many other people in my neighborhood, There are probably 10 or 12 kids ender the age of 12. I would have shot the dog and burried it in the back yard....No victim no crime right..... |
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If anything legal were 100%, we wouldn't need lawyers, internet or otherwise. "Paintball gun? No sir officer, not my paintball gun. It never leaves the house!" I do it in my BACK yard, and I don't tell the dog's owner it was me. I also don't go over to their house to tell them their stupid dog has been in my fenced in back yard again and that I'm going to shoot it. They'll either figure it out or they won't. Even if I did have to answer for it, it's "less than lethal force" on the dog, deterring it from trying to harm my daughter's stupid little PekaPooh. |
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Good stuff has been posted here-AcMech's was priceless in that he says not to go with a less lethal route by shooting the dog with paintballs but telling you to commit a Felony by poisoning it after you've already confronted the owners and making yourself the most likely suspect. That's fricking brilliant! I'd be wary of taking a picture of it also (at least with a flash) of a dog in an attack posture as it may set it off. A dog will cover a lot of ground very quickly, which may not be enough time to get to a gun. To say shooting a dog in self defense is like shooting a person in self defense is pushing it. As much as we like to call dogs "man's best friend" it is essentially property here in Georgia so the escalation of force is nowhere near as strict for an animal compared to a human. If you shoot the damned Pitt Bull for coming on your property and growling at you, call the Police and tell them what you did. I don't know a Police Officer anywhere that is going to do anything to you for protecting yourself-especially when dealing with a Pitt Bull, the same goes for a jury if the numbnut owner takes you to court. The Police Officer makes a report of the incident and Animal Control comes to get the carcass. Just make sure that you hit what you are aiming at or at the very least have a safe backstop. Things can get very bad for you if a stray round goes through little Sally's bedroom window and wounds her or worse. If you put down a vicious animal there's nothing to hide about it. I'd say you'd be much better off being proactive and getting the truth of the matter out there rather than your neighbors dog dissapearing and them making a complaint that you've threatened to shoot the dog before and now it's gone. Google search "Pitt Bull attacks" and you'll get 3.5 million responses in .4 seconds, so it's not like it's alien for a Pitt Bull to be vicious. It would be a different story if Grandma's Shih Tzu got away from her and barked at you. The above advice only applies to a dog acting aggressive or menacingly towards you or another-not a large dog just wandering aimlessly around a neighborhood, in which case you'd want to call animal control and establish a history of complaints. |
Shit, I would have been grilling with one in my holser on my hip. No problems, just can never tell. Back on topic, when I lived in Savannah, a neighbor's Rotty approached me in a menacing manner on 3 occassions when I would get home from work at about 2330 at night. Each time I just backed towards my stairs and went in the house. I tried at first to be friendly to it, but it would have no part of it. The third time, I had pulled my pistol and was prepared to shoot if necessary. I was not gonna retreat again at my own homestead. Apparently, the owner saw that and called his dog. I politely told him that it should not happen again if he valued his dog and told him that the dog should not be running loose. I never saw that dog again. |
I think whatever you hit it with if its in the head it will die, but you might miss it. If you only wound it, your in bigger trouble, with the law and the owner. One Sunday afternoon, my Dad sent my brother outside to sting a mutt that was barking at our chickens with our old ten-pump. Dad only wanted it scared away. Well, my brother said he aimed for the side, stung him with the BB gun and the dog yelped, ran 100ft to the property line where it collapsed and died. It was real quick with an old 10 pump. Luckly no one saw, a few years later dad just stung another dog that was in the yard doing the same thing and had to pay a $100 fine. Thats why if I ever have a problem dog, I will take care of it differently.... as previoulsy mentioned. If you've got 10 neighbors pissed about one guys dog menacing people thats a lot of suspects as to where it ate something bad. Shoot the dog and they will all be pointing the finger at you. Even better, repeatedly call animal control and in 6 months or so they will get the dog gone. The owner will also be fined. |
I've used .223, 00 Buck and 147grn 9mm Rangers to take out dogs and all have been 1 shot kills. If it's facing towards you the center of the chest or the head works good. For everybodies purposes that would be the best shot to take as it provides physical evidence in your favor that you were indeed in fear of your safety bacause it shows the dog was facing you and backs up your story that you were in fear for you safety. If a side shot is all you have because say it's barking at you and trying to circle you for it's own attack position, then just behind the shoulders works good.
Once again, I'm failing to see where you are in trouble from a legal standpoint if you are defending yourself from a vicious animal? Thats like saying if a bad guy confronts you with a knife and you only wound him, instead of killing him then you are in trouble. Once you discharge your firearm at the fucking thing, call the police and tell them what you did. It's no frigging different than if it were a bear or a mountain lion trying to do the same thing. I understand everybody wants to err on the side of caution, but this is your (or your kids) safety we are talking about. If you are up front about things as opposed to trying to cover every thing up, then you are fine. It's much different if you shoot it and then the neighbor discovers it in your trash the next day as he is driving by-then you'll have a lot of explaining to do. |
| I think your absolutly right Lawman734, if your going to shoot it, you better call the police. If its not letting you be, you will have to, but what if it doesn't attack this time, do you shoot? What if it corners your wife next time? I'm just thinking out loud, but what if the owners produce pictures of the dog playing with kids and claim you were just mad it crapped on your yard? Personaly, I'd shoot it and take my chances that the owner will sue me. |
The way I see it (L.E.O.'s correct me if I'm wrong) is that having a dog or other animal stray on to your property is not grounds to shoot it (or poison it). However, if the animal approaches you or another person, pet or livestock in an aggressive manor, do what you have to do to eliminate the threat. That being said, I have been holstered up all weekend while I have been working in the yard. So far I have not seen any Pit Bulls. I did see about eight deer last evening in the field behind my house, but they weren't being very aggressive so I didn't drop the hammer on them  Seriously though, I could have killed the little fucker the other night, but I don't like the idea of killing someone else's pet. I just hope the owner is a little more responsible from now on. Next time the dog probably won't be so lucky.
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Correct, at that point you'd want to call Animal Control and start accumulating a history of complaints.
ACMech, you can "what if" a situation to death-but the fact of the matter is, if you do something to kill or maim that animal while it isn't acting in a threatening manner you most certainly will be investigated and probably go to jail for Felony animal cruelty-at that point, being sued would be the least of your worries. |
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Your right Lawman, but even if it does come at you and you think is about to attack, if you shoot it without a witness, your in the same boat right? Who saw the dog try to attack you, no one. Its still your word against a dog owners who says the dog never hurt anyone and you were just mad it crapped in your yard. Thats when they show pic. of the dog playing with kids. I love playing devils advocate, my wife just says I'm a butthole. Seriously though if you call the Police, let them know you were nearly mauled, when you do have to pop it I doubt they will question it. |
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The dogs owner can say whatever they want and show as many pics as they want they still need to get around the fact that they were the owners of a dog type that are known to be problematic (in this case, a pitt bull) and that they had it running around loose and unsupervised. As stupid as most juries are, most all of them have seen the all too frequent news of a pitt bull attacking someone. Us in Law Enforcement aren't stupid and can figure things out pretty well. Most likely, if someone shoots a pit bull in there yard-and as mentioned earlier-it's a frontal chest or head shot-we can figure it out and the owners can say what they want-we won't be buying it.In any case, hopefully you will have a witness-but we know circumstanses aren't perfect. If you are out jogging and you have to put down a dog, then good luck finding the owner. I've yet to come across a dogs owner when we are about to impound it for running loose or for whatever other reason. You are right though in that if you say the dog attempted to maul you, we won't do much of anything beyond writing a report. However, the problem you run into is the nosey neighbor who just happened to be looking over as you killed it for simply "crapping in the yard" or the group of neighbors who have seen the dog running around before, but say the dog was harmless and was more of a nuisance that knocked over thier trash on monday mornings. ACMech, I'll go as far as saying that you aren't wrong for wanting to err on the side of caution. The issue that I argue with is the backhanded way of doing things that can get you in serious trouble. Or shooting it and disposing of it quietly in the unfortunate circumstance where you're discovered, etc.Poisoning a piece of crap dog isn't worth me losing my gun rights when all I needed to do was be up front, shoot it and report it to LE. In that case you'll avoid any criminal hassle (as long as the story is consistent) as well as possible civil hassles because then you'll have LE Documentation (an incident report) compounded with the vicious dog species running around loose. |
Our K9 unit did a test with various OC/Pepper sprays not too long ago and found that they don't always work on particularly aggressive animals. |
How do they work on their owners? 
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My biggest worry would be the civil case, after I already notified the law. My wife sued here employer based on overtime the the State of Ga said she was owed. Clear and dry, my wife was owed the money, her employer lied, said my wife stole from work and the Jugde accepted part of her estimate of her loss and awarded my wife partial payment for overtime. You can be completely right and if someone lies you have to prove they are lying. If you persist in calling animal control they will eventually take take of it. These guys took care of their dog problem......................LOL http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m-18-dvic585.jpg |
I was thinking along those lines and was glad to see that nobody used the three letter footwear moniker. |
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choppahead, for G-d sakes don't be such a cheap bastard! Give the dog a rib next time, ok? Whatsamatter, weren't they done cooking yet? Just kidding  . A snapping, barking Pitt is a stupid Pitt. If they're the real serious type, you will be bitten and you won't hear it coming. Yes, this is personal experience working with dangerous aggressive dogs. You guys really need to watch the Dog Whisperer. Calm dominant behavior beats the dog's aggressive behavior. I view this like learning how to swim: there's lots of water out there, and even if you don't like to swim, you better know how. And teach your kids. As Lawman said, call Animal Control. If it charges you on an attack, GA law is on your side to blast it. Poisoning, shooting a dog for only trespassing, irrationally fearing big dogs when little dogs bite more frequently out of fear (personal experience); all I can say is you're in the wrong, and I won't feel sorry for you when the consequences find you. Beating a lone dog that is attacking is ridiculously easy. Dogs only have one weapon. When an untrained dog attacks, it latches onto whatever it can grab first, and doesn't let go. Don't offer it anything of value! Untrained dogs frequently charge then launch into the air to finish the last distance to the attack. While they're in the air, step aside and strike, or alter the distance to the 'target'. Again, a dog that doesn't launch is a trained, successful attacker. Be twice as wary. If you wind up having to sacrifice an arm, and you don't have a weapon, use your free hand to quickly strike or grab the loose skin on the dog's neck and drive it into the ground. You want the dog off its feet. Absolutely, positively do not back up, or pull back against the dog bite. Use the bitten arm like a ram to push the dog backward to get it off its feet. If not, it will start shaking its head, causing much more damage to your arm and taking you off your feet. YMMV ! |
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Lawman734 thanks again for great input. sidebar, a few years we had a string of rabid foxes loose in our area (i live downtown in a medium sized "town" with a couple of rivers running through the middle). Saturday afternoon i spotted one near my house, called 911. When the patrolman arrived, we tried to corner it so he had the angle to safely pop it with his pistol and be done with it. All it had done was sit there and foam, but all of a sudden it decided to escape by running right at then past him. Earlier when he arrived i told him i had a ccw permit and was carrying, he said thanks for telling but let him do the shooting. Aftrer the fox escaped i asked him what i should do if i saw it again and before i could finish the sentance, he said "shoot the m-f". He laughed and qualified it some by adding for me "not to run get out my asault rifle or anything". (it got run over by a car later that evening) |
That is utter BS about your wife you folks are fine and upstanding!!! That being said I believe that the pic above might be the best way to handle all property intrusions.... They have those in the wal-mart sporting goods section right next to my deer cologne right  
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