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Posted: 9/20/2018 12:19:16 PM EDT
Not sure if this has been covered in here, so I thought I'd throw it up if anyone was interested.

This is a breakdown on all 13 Amendments we Floridians will be asked to vote on in November. This document was put together by the James Madison Institute. I've never heard of them but according to Wikipedia:

The James Madison Institute is a free-market American think tank headquartered in Tallahassee, Florida in the United States. It is a member of the State Policy Network.
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So for anyone interested, here is the James Madison Institute 2018 Amendment Guide
Link Posted: 9/20/2018 12:31:40 PM EDT
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This Ballot crap is getting out of hand!!!

Thanks for the link.
Link Posted: 9/25/2018 9:51:16 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link- it was way more helpful than other searches I've done about the amendments.
Link Posted: 9/26/2018 10:54:46 AM EDT
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I almost always vote no on all of them as inappropriate to be Constitutional Amendments. The link was helpful, thanks.
Link Posted: 9/26/2018 11:03:33 AM EDT
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I need to remember to read this after work.

Thanks for the link
Link Posted: 9/26/2018 1:31:19 PM EDT
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My pleasure.

Amendment 9 makes me laugh at how many people on opposite sides will be pissed at the piggy-backing: they stacked "prohibit off-shore drilling" with "prohibit vaping indoors".

Link Posted: 9/26/2018 3:47:12 PM EDT
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Can we get an Arfcom guide on how to vote for each? I generally vote "No" for everything unless I'm damn sure I understand it.
Link Posted: 9/26/2018 4:35:22 PM EDT
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Thx
Link Posted: 9/26/2018 5:39:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/27/2018 10:10:08 AM EDT
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Thanks for the link, that sure beats the one-sided brief explanations that I am used to.
And yea their reasoning for piggy-backing on #9 is another joke in itself.
Anyhow I am ready to fill out my ballot now. I sure would like to see a governor debate just for shits n grins.
Link Posted: 9/29/2018 8:18:01 PM EDT
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My pleasure.

Amendment 9 makes me laugh at how many people on opposite sides will be pissed at the piggy-backing: they stacked "prohibit off-shore drilling" with "prohibit vaping indoors".

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I saw that and went... .

I typically just vote no on all ammendments.
Link Posted: 9/30/2018 9:40:33 AM EDT
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Constitution Revision Commission strikes again!
Link Posted: 9/30/2018 10:19:01 PM EDT
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no
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Link Posted: 9/30/2018 10:52:21 PM EDT
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Same, I’ll be default no on everything.

Girlfriend is busy with the no on 13 stuff now (greyhound family). PETA types backed by casinos pushing that
Link Posted: 10/1/2018 3:20:14 PM EDT
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Going to vote yes on number nine, no cool vape smoking while sitting next to me indoors.
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 11:12:04 AM EDT
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Bump.  I just got my sample ballet and went cross-eyed at all the amendments.

Came here to find some discussion and was not disappointed.

Thanks for the link.
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 1:27:36 PM EDT
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Bump.  I just got my sample ballet and went cross-eyed at all the amendments.

Came here to find some discussion and was not disappointed.

Thanks for the link.
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Happy to help
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 6:35:12 PM EDT
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Going to vote yes on number nine, no cool vape smoking while sitting next to me indoors.
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Allow offshore drilling, you bring income steady income and careers for this states future and push the commies back to the north east.
I'll deal with vaping if the oil rigs on the horizon scare the commies out.
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 6:45:04 PM EDT
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No wonder Florida is in the shape its in...
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 7:15:42 PM EDT
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Amendment 1
This amendment raises the homestead property tax exemption by $25,000 for homes worth more than $100,000. That would exempt the value between $100,000 and $125,000 of a home that serves as the owner's primary residence.

Currently, there are two other homestead exemptions: for the first $25,000 of the assessed property value and for the value between $50,000 and $75,000.

Who supports it: Republicans in the state Legislature, who put the measure on the ballot because it would lower taxes for almost 60 percent of homesteaded properties.

Who opposes it: Groups that advocate for local governments such as the Florida Association of Counties. Cities, counties and special districts across the state would lose an estimated $752.7 million in their budgets in the first year (school districts would not be impacted). The association claims the measure could force local governments to increase tax rates and commercial and non-homesteaded properties might pay more. Government watchdog group Florida Tax Watch also opposes the measure for similar reasons and estimates 76 percent of all property owners in Florida would not benefit from it.

VOTE YES ON 1! HELP KEEP YOUR PROPERTY TAXES LOW!

Amendment 2
This proposal permanently places a 10-percent cap on the annual increase of non-homestead property tax assessments. This amendment wouldn't change current law, but it puts protections in place so exorbitant increases don't impact renters, business owners and consumers
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What owners of non-homestead properties face, should the amendment fail, is paying taxes on the full value of properties, beginning in January 2019. This could translate into higher costs for renters, financial burdens for those on fixed incomes, increased costs for consumers who shop at businesses and more costs for those who own undeveloped land. Projections show a potential tax increase of about $700 million each year.

Who supports it: Florida Tax Watch, small businesses and the Florida Association of Realtors.

Who opposes it: The League of Women Voters of Florida because of the group's position that no tax revenue should be prohibited in the Constitution.

VOTE YES ON 2! OR HAVE NY STATE STYLE PROPERTY TAXES!

Amendment 3
This amendment gives voters the exclusive right to decide whether a new casino can open in the state. It takes that right away from the Florida Legislature, which has failed in recent years to reach an agreement on the issue.

The amendment would categorize card games, casino games and slot machines as casino gambling, and require anyone who wanted to build a casino to get hundreds of thousands of signatures to get it on the ballot and then hope for voter approval. This would make it more difficult for any dog track or horse track wishing to expand its gaming to do so.

Currently, the Seminole tribal compact, agreed to in 2015 with the state, gives casinos exclusive rights to operate craps, roulette, black jack at its five properties.

The amendment was placed on the ballot after the anti-gambling expansion group Voters in Charge collected more than 766,000 validated voters' signatures.

Who supports it: Seminole Tribe of Florida and Disney because the amendment would make it harder to expand gambling. The two groups have spent nearly $40 million campaigning for Amendment 3.

Who opposes it: Owners of dog and horse tracks because they would need statewide voter approval to add casino gambling at each track.

This one was tricky! VOTE NO ON 3!!! MORE CASINOS=MORE BOOMER RETIREES THAT WANT TO TELL YOU HOW THINGS ARE DONE BACK IN NY GO BROKE AND GTFO SOONER!

Amendment 4
The amendment restores voting rights to former felons who served their sentence, including parole and probation, with the exception of those convicted of murder and sexual offenses. Currently, former felons must wait at least 5 years after completing their sentences to ask the Florida Clemency Board, made up by the governor and the Cabinet, to restore their rights.

A U.S. district judge found Florida's current system arbitrary and unconstitutional in March, and the case is under appeal. If passed, Amendment 4 would impact 1.5 million Floridians. Florida is one of four states that disenfranchises former felons permanently.

Who supports it: The more than 799,000 voters whose signatures were certified on a petition by the group Floridians for Fair Democracy to place Amendment 4 on the ballot; the conservative group Koch Brothers and ice cream company Ben & Jerry's.

Who opposes it: The group Floridians For A Sensible Voting Rights Policy because, while Amendment 4 excludes felons convicted of murder and sex crimes, it doesn't differentiate between people who committed other violent crimes and those who committed non-violent crimes.

VOTE NO! THEY DO NOT RESTORE ALL RIGHTS JUST VOTING RIGHTS! CARE TO GUESS WHY?!

Amendment 5
This amendment would require a two-thirds vote in the Florida House and Senate — instead of a simple majority — to raise taxes. It was placed on the ballot by the Legislature with the intent to make it more difficult for lawmakers to raise taxes.

This amendment does not apply to local taxes that might be raised in specific counties, cities or other taxing districts, such as school or fire districts. The amendment also stops a typical legislative technique of adding tax and fee increases onto other legislative bills.

Who supports it: The Florida Chamber of Commerce and Florida Tax Watch.

Who opposes it: The Florida Policy Institute, Progress Florida, League of Women Voters of Florida and Florida Education Association.

VOTE YES ON 5! KEEP YOUR COSTS OF LIVING LOW OR GO THE WAY OF THE NORTHEAST!

Amendment 6
The Constitution Revision Commission bundled together three separate issues in Amendment 6. It would:


Expand the scope of victims' rights under the Florida Constitution. While many of these rights already are enumerated in state statutes, Amendment 6 would significantly expand, and delineate, an array of victims' rights, including: victims' rights to due process; freedom from intimidation and abuse protection from the accused and protections for victims if bail is granted. The proposal, modeled after Marsy's Law in California, also would set deadlines to complete state appeals, allow victims to request additional rights and provide victims with access to sentencing reports.
Raise the mandatory retirement age of Florida judges, including Supreme Court justices, from 70 to 75.
Prohibit state courts from deferring to an administrative agency's interpretation of a state statute or rule.
Who supports it: Many Florida sheriffs and victim advocacy groups that believe courts have gone too far defending the rights of the accused.

Who opposes it: Criminal defense attorneys, who fear giving victims a role in court proceedings would create an emotional rather than a legal process, and the League of Women Voters of Florida because the amendment would remove a provision that victims’ rights do not interfere with the constitutional rights of the accused.

Toss up. On one hand, NO because supreme court justices are allowed to retire at 75 instead of 70. The other hand it prohibits state courts from deferring to an administrative agencies interpretation of a statute or law.

Amendment 7
The Constitution Revision Commission bundled together three separate issues in Amendment 7.
It would:

Enshrine in the state Constitution the mandatory payment of death benefits and waiver of certain educational expenses to qualifying survivors of certain first responders and military members who die performing official duties. Currently, law enforcement officers, corrections officers, firefighters and members of the National Guard are provided death benefits under Florida law. This proposal would add paramedics, emergency medical technicians and U.S. military members residing in Florida to the list.
Require supermajority votes by university trustees and state university system board of governors to raise or impose legislatively authorized fees if law requires approval by those bodies.
Establish the existing state college system as a constitutional entity and provide governance structure for such.
Who supports it: The Association of Florida Colleges because it recognizes state colleges, formerly called community colleges, in the state Constitution.

Who opposes it: The Florida League of Women Voters of Florida because the group opposes a supermajority vote to raise fees and taxes, and because members of the military who die in the line of service are already compensated through the federal government.
VOTE YES It may be the back door to campus carry.

Amendment 9
This is a Florida Constitution Revision Commission proposal that bundles two measures under the auspices of clean water and clean air.


The waters most immediately adjacent to Florida’s coastline are in state control, then become federal jurisdiction farther offshore. This amendment pertains just to state-controlled water, prohibiting oil and gas drilling for exploration or extraction in offshore areas. It doesn’t block transport of oil or gas from federal territorial waters through state waters to Florida’s ports.
The second part of the amendment prohibits the indoor use of e-cigarettes and vaping devices. The amendment doesn’t restrict use of these devices inside private residences (unless they’re used for child or health care) nor in standalone bars or hotel rooms where smoking is allowed.
Who supports it: Many Florida environmental groups and The League of Women Voters support the amendment based on the offshore drilling protections.

Who opposes it: Among opponents is the Florida Chamber of Commerce, which suggests these issues can be addressed by the Legislature. A former Florida Supreme Court justice is among those legally challenging the bundling of this and other amendments. The case is on appeal.

VOTE NO! YOU WANT OFFSHORE DRILLING! SCARES THE COMMIES BACK TO THE NORTH EAST! OIL RIGS=MONEY! Deal with the vape, Get More Money so you are not reliant on Disney Tropicana and Tourism with piss poor paying remedial jobs catering to ungrateful snide uppity north east transplants!

Amendment 10
This is a Constitution Revision Commission proposal that rolls four separate government regulatory proposals into one amendment that would:

Require the Legislature to start its annual session in January instead of March during even-numbered years. That’s because these are election years; an earlier start means lawmakers can finish before May.
Create a counter-terrorism and security office within the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
Require the state to have a Department of Veterans Affairs, which already exists.
Require that all 67 counties must elect their sheriff, tax collector, elections supervisor and clerk of courts. Several Florida counties now have at least one of these positions appointed based on home-rule charters, such as Miami-Dade County, whose top law enforcer is appointed, not elected.
This amendment was legally challenged but the Florida Supreme Court left it on the ballot in an early September ruling.

Who supports it: The primary supporters are the constitution commission members who proposed it and several Central Florida public officials.

Who opposes it: The League of Women Voters, which says most provisions already are current practices, so it’s a veiled attack on home rule based on the election requirement.
TOSS UP. Yes because Tax Collector, Sheriff, Clerk of Court, Election supervisor have to be elected. NO because it creates a New Bureaucracy-Counter Terrorism which requires Tax $$$ to operate.

Amendment 11
This amendment has three parts:


Florida’s Constitution currently has language that allows the Legislature to prevent non-citizens from buying, selling, owning or inheriting property. Amendment 11 would delete this language.
Florida’s Constitution added the “Savings Clause” in 1885 and is one of only three states that enforces one. This clause forbids making changes to criminal sentencing laws retroactive. For example, if the Legislature changes a mandatory minimum sentence for an offense from 20 years to five years, anyone still being prosecuted for or already convicted of that offense would still have to serve 20 years. Amendment 11 repeals the Savings Clause.
Deletes language approving a high-speed rail. Floridians voted down the high-speed rail project in 2004, but the language was never removed.

Who supports it: The Florida Chamber of Commerce and Asian-American groups, which have pushed to repeal alien land laws enacted in the 1910s and 1920s to prevent Asian immigrants from owning property. Gun rights groups support repealing the Savings Clause in hopes that will make retroactive a change to the "stand your ground" law that put the burden of proof on the prosecution instead of defendants in pre-trial hearings.

Who opposes it: A lawsuit filed by former Supreme Court Justice Harry Anstead claims Amendment 11 violates voters’ First Amendment rights by bundling three unrelated issues and that the measure is misleading. A Leon County judge ruled in September the measure be struck from the ballot, and the state has appealed it.  
ITS DEAD JIM IF NOT, VOTE NO!!!! BAD ENOUGH YOU HAVE NORTHEAST TRANSPLANTS DO YOU WANT FOREIGN BODIES BUYING UP THE COASTS?!

Amendment 12
It expands ethics rules for public officials — both elected officials and government employees, including judges. The new rules are complex, but essentially they ban officials/employees from lobbying the state and federal government during their terms of office/employment and for 6 years after (currently the rule is 2 years). Amendment 12 also prohibits these officials from using their position for private gain.

Who supports it: Government watchdog group Integrity Florida and other ethics organizations.

Who opposes it: The Florida Chamber, which claims these issues should be addressed through the legislative process.

VOTE YES. It may fuck us losing NRA support for politicians, but with politicians like Galvano, Mast, Harrell, who needs NRA money? Big picture-It will keep Soros and Bloomberg money out!!!!!!!!!!

Amendment 13
The proposal ends commercial greyhound and other dog racing by 2020, but people in Florida would continue to wager on races occurring in other states. Forty states ban the activity and Florida, West Virginia, Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa and Texas are the only ones where dog racing is legal and operational. Racing has been dying, but Florida law requires tracks to race dogs in order to keep their license to offer more profitable card games and slot machines, which they still would be able to offer if Amendment 13 is approved.


Who supports it: GREY2K USA Worldwide, a greyhound welfare group that helped push the Constitution Revision Commission to add Amendment 13 to the ballot. The group says racing causes a high number of dog injuries and deaths and points to dogs that have tested positive for drugs such as cocaine.

Who opposes it: The Florida Greyhound Association, which represents the state's 12 track owners. The group filed a lawsuit attempting to remove the amendment from the ballot, saying the ballot language is misleading because it hides the fact the amendment would allow tracks to continue to offer the other types of gaming. The Florida Supreme Court, however, ruled the measure must remain on the ballot. Breeders and people who depend on the industry also oppose it.
VOTE NO!!!
VOTE NO on Amendment 13

Amendment 13, while claiming to stop betting on greyhound racing, has a hidden agenda that could lead to a ban on hunting and fishing.

Animal rights extremists are pushing this amendment to establish a legal foothold in the Florida Constitution that can be used to ban legitimate activities involving all animals -- including pet ownership.

Amendment 13 includes the phrase:  “The humane treatment of animals is a fundamental value of the people of the State of Florida.”
Link Posted: 10/3/2018 7:35:35 AM EDT
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yes the problem with no 1 - yes you can raise the exempton.....then they will raise the rates....it will all wash out in the end.

Red
Link Posted: 10/3/2018 2:03:36 PM EDT
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If you'd like to know how all the Gillum supporters are being told how to vote, here is what they are putting out......

(Taken from my batshit crazy neighbors FB........)

Link Posted: 10/11/2018 6:21:53 PM EDT
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Btt.
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 2:03:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2018 5:07:54 PM EDT
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Good idea
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 5:25:45 PM EDT
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So which judges do we like and who do we hate?
Judges;
Alan Lawson
Anthony k black
Darryl c Casanueva
Edward c LaRose
Susan h rothstein-youakim ( hyphenated last name, hell no)

Manatee county school board if anyone cares...
Hopes vs. Stokes

Sorry guys, just not enough time to research everything myself and I trust y'all
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 5:30:43 PM EDT
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If you'd like to know how all the Gillum supporters are being told how to vote, here is what they are putting out......

(Taken from my batshit crazy neighbors FB........)

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I'll pretty much vote just the opposite
Link Posted: 10/13/2018 5:22:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2018 2:52:23 PM EDT
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Just went through this with the wife.  Need beer.
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Damn Brutha, I opened one before I even opened the link
Link Posted: 10/14/2018 10:07:33 AM EDT
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Not a bad idea.
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Hand raised, that will help lot,s of folks.
Link Posted: 10/14/2018 4:00:34 PM EDT
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Can I vote twicw? Both hands raised.

My loyal conservative dog raises all four paws for a tack too...
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Broke yer tack hammer?    
Link Posted: 10/14/2018 4:52:50 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting this OP
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So you want increased property taxes? Oh wait let me guess you didn't read any of them.

Fuck guys, you really need to read them instead of just voting no.
Link Posted: 10/15/2018 3:50:29 PM EDT
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If you'd like to know how all the Gillum supporters are being told how to vote, here is what they are putting out......

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My vote is exactly the opposite for all of these.  funny.
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Please do.
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My vote is exactly the opposite for all of these.  funny.
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I voted No on #6 and 7
Link Posted: 10/16/2018 1:54:27 PM EDT
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so I have:

1: Yes - prevents commie fucktard assholes from getting more of our money through excessive taxation

2: Yes - prevents commie fucktard assholes from getting more of our money through excessive taxation

3: Yes - regulation of gambling is not a power the State should have, it should lie with the People through free markets IMHO.

4: No, Hell No - Nothing more than a leftist attempt to get more D votes from the PoS felons.  There is already a process in place to get their right to vote back if they weren't so lazy as to not bother with it.

5: Yes - prevents commie fucktard assholes from getting more of our money through excessive taxation

6: Yes - helps reverse the garbage "protect the criminal" legal system we have.  Also puts more power in the judges' hands, not unelected bureaucrats.

7: No, unfortunately. The higher ed system basically works like this:  Everyone gets to go to college because rights, and federal government makes the loans.  All the sudden, billions flow into the university system over the past decade or three.  Administrators and faculty line their pockets with money they could never earn without government sending everyone their way for more school.

Voting yes on this would help stop those people from lining their pockets, which sounds good on its face.  The problem is that every other state does it too.  So, even though higher ed is overpriced everywhere, the good faculty in FL would relocate elsewhere in the country for higher pay.  Voting yes would drive down the product quality higher ed provides, even though it already sucks.  Quite the jacked up system

8: Not on ballot anymore

9: No.  Oil is nice to have and use

10: No.  Even though Miami is probably corrupt as hell due to things like unelected police peoples, I'm not ready to let the state tell the county how to do things.

11: No. Even though it looks like it might be repealing a bunch of Jim Crow'y-type laws, I'm not getting involved with anything having to do with non-citizens, and they wont say who exactly falls into this group.

12: Yes.  Bribery works like this these days: Hold public office, send public projects/funds/attention/interest to XZY Corp or lobbying firm representing it.  Retire from office, get hired by XYZ lobbying firm, and get more $$ in that job than could otherwise be earned, due to the unethical and corrupt actions taken while in office.  There are plenty of other jobs in the world, most of which actually require work, that our retired "leaders" can work.

13: No. Government should not have the power to tell people not to race their dags against each other.

IMHO, correct me where I'm off, FBHO, etc.
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6: Yes - helps reverse the garbage "protect the criminal" legal system we have.  Also puts more power in the judges' hands, not unelected bureaucrats.
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We've already learned that accusers of sexual assault must be believed, even with absolutely no evidence. I could see Democrats attempting to use this to permit people to go on television and slander people's reputations with no fear of any consequences if their stories are shown to be false.

Because now it's their constitutional right to do so.
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Mine too.  I was undecided on No 11, but if the commies want me to vote "no", I'm voting "yes"!
Link Posted: 10/16/2018 11:14:21 PM EDT
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Looks like I'll be

1  Y
2  Y
3  N
4  N
5  Y
6  N
7  Y
9  N
10 N
11 N
12 Y
13 N
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So which judges do we like and who do we hate?
Judges;
Alan Lawson
Anthony k black
Darryl c Casanueva
Edward c LaRose
Susan h rothstein-youakim ( hyphenated last name, hell no)

Manatee county school board if anyone cares...
Hopes vs. Stokes

Sorry guys, just not enough time to research everything myself and I trust y'all
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Yeah what is the deal with these folks?
Link Posted: 10/17/2018 1:22:48 PM EDT
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What’s the hive mind on voting yes for 1 but no on 2. Lowering homestead taxes (locals) but raising non homestead taxes (out of staters)?
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Looks like I'll be

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7  Y
9  N
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11 N
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Same here
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We've already learned that accusers of sexual assault must be believed, even with absolutely no evidence. I could see Democrats attempting to use this to permit people to go on television and slander people's reputations with no fear of any consequences if their stories are shown to be false.

Because now it's their constitutional right to do so.
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6: Yes - helps reverse the garbage "protect the criminal" legal system we have.  Also puts more power in the judges' hands, not unelected bureaucrats.
We've already learned that accusers of sexual assault must be believed, even with absolutely no evidence. I could see Democrats attempting to use this to permit people to go on television and slander people's reputations with no fear of any consequences if their stories are shown to be false.

Because now it's their constitutional right to do so.
It seems like the opposite of that.

Here is the origination of Marsy's Law:

Marsy’s Law was named after Dr. Nicholas’ sister, Marsalee (Marsy) Nicholas, a beautiful, vibrant University of California Santa Barbara student, who was stalked and killed by her ex-boyfriend in 1983. Only a week after Marsy was murdered, Dr. Nicholas and Marsy’s mother, Mrs. Marcella Leach, walked into a grocery store after visiting her daughter’s grave and was confronted by the accused murderer. She had no idea that he had been released on bail.

Mrs. Leach’s story is typical of the pain and suffering the family members of murder victims have endured. She was not informed because the courts and law enforcement, though well-meaning, had no obligation to keep her informed. While criminals have more than 20 individuals rights spelled out in the U.S. Constitution, the surviving family members of murder victims have none.

But the passage of Marsy’s Law changed all that in California, and now in Illinois, North Dakota, South Dakota and Ohio. Victims of crime in all of these states must, by law, be treated with respect and dignity by the criminal justice system. Courts must consider the safety of victims and families when setting bail and release conditions. Family members have legal standing in bail hearings, pleas, sentencing and parole hearings.

“If any good can come of something this horrible – the loss of my sister and the losses of other families of crime victims – it is that these violent acts served as a catalyst for change,” Dr. Nicholas said. “Marsy’s Law will provide for a more compassionate justice system for crime victims in California and make that a constitutional guarantee. Now the momentum can be put behind a U.S. Constitutional Amendment so that the rights of all crime victims, anywhere in America, can be protected.”
North Dakota and South Dakota have passed this, so unless they got hoodwinked, it's probably good stuff.

In your example, the accuser who fabricated sexual assault charges would be the perpetrator, and the falsely accused would be the victim.  In that case, this amendment would guarantee that the victim could show up in court and explain how his life was ruined from the PoS accuser, instead of being silenced and having the thing be "no big deal white lie etc."
Link Posted: 10/17/2018 4:02:39 PM EDT
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Thanks OP, that helps
Link Posted: 10/17/2018 4:31:42 PM EDT
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Thanks and tag for at home talks.
Link Posted: 10/17/2018 8:42:55 PM EDT
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Not sure if this has been covered in here, so I thought I'd throw it up if anyone was interested.

This is a breakdown on all 13 Amendments we Floridians will be asked to vote on in November. This document was put together by the James Madison Institute. I've never heard of them but according to Wikipedia:

The James Madison Institute is a free-market American think tank headquartered in Tallahassee, Florida in the United States. It is a member of the State Policy Network.
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So for anyone interested, here is the James Madison Institute 2018 Amendment Guide
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Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/18/2018 11:13:22 PM EDT
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Anyone know about the judges?
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