Posted: 9/4/2025 9:51:25 AM EDT
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As the CDC is being gutted for authoritarianism Oregon goes full stop. We don't want that. We want herd mentality. Link to article There is a lot of ground work leading up to the reporting of Oregon's new alliance. It is conservative rhetoric but enlightening so read when time permits: Some readers thought I stretched to call this vaccine dispute a new Civil War. But also yesterday, the same day as Florida's announcement, the San Francisco Chronicle ran a story headlined, "As CDC declines, California will join West Coast public health alliance." In short, California, Oregon, and Washington have formally broken with the CDC, forming the "West Coast Health Alliance" to issue their own vaccine guidance. image 2.png This isn't just policy it's two rival moral philosophies, finally colliding in the open. It represents an irresolvable moral binary. Blue states are hewing close to the utilitarian ethos (numbers > rights), while Florida is planting its flag in deontological soil (rights > numbers). This isn't just another red/blue squabble. It's a massive collision of moral universes. It's matter and antimatter. These two world views cannot peacefully be reconciled. They cannot coexist. They ask different questions. The utilitarian West Coast Alliance asks, "what result?" Florida's deontologists ask, "what right?" To the utilitarian, refusing mandates is reckless disregard for public health. To the deontologist, imposing mandates is reckless disregard for freedom. This is the same kind of binary that split America over slavery: can you ever treat people as means rather than ends? One side said yes, the other no. There's simply no middle ground where both can be "a little bit right." There's no halfway position that both camps can live with. You can't "slightly" own a person, and you can't "sort of" force shots into them. Compromise is becoming impossible. |
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Originally Posted By Lead-slinger: This could get very messy |
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| Parents have had to show some proof of vaccinations since my kids were in school. Both my sons had severe reactions to vaccines as infants so they were always behind on vaccinations. With my oldest I went the religious exemption route (fought it every year) with my youngest I just filled the yellow card in myself and they never asked. |
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So RFK, a Democrat, says vaccines are dangerous. So Democrats are outraged and a bunch of non-doctors start their own dystopian clown world CDC were they can continue to tell the residents of their clown world that they should keep getting their fauci ouchy. Sounds legit.
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| In the end, it’s a good thing. The CDC is finished. Next time a Democrat is president and tries to use the CDC to force shit across the country? The Gulf Coast Health Alliance and the Prairie States Health Alliance can just say “nah man.” |
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Originally Posted By AASG: So RFK, a Democrat, says vaccines are dangerous. So Democrats are outraged and a bunch of non-doctors start their own dystopian clown world CDC were they can continue to tell the residents of their clown world that they should keep getting their fauci ouchy. Sounds legit. Originally Posted By Procyon: In the end, it's a good thing. The CDC is finished. Next time a Democrat is president and tries to use the CDC to force shit across the country? The Gulf Coast Health Alliance and the Prairie States Health Alliance can just say "nah man." It goes both ways too. Why aren't employers arrested for employing illegals? There has to be a cash cow there. Why and how much less is it? |
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Originally Posted By Procyon: In the end, it’s a good thing. The CDC is finished. Next time a Democrat is president and tries to use the CDC to force shit across the country? The Gulf Coast Health Alliance and the Prairie States Health Alliance can just say “nah man.” Yes. I've been saying this about everything Democrats have done for the last 8 years. They have set case law and precedent. All of this can be used against them in the future. They have proven that one judge can overturn literally any order from a president. They have opened Pandoras box! |
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Originally Posted By AASG: Yes. I've been saying this about everything Democrats have done for the last 8 years. They have set case law and precedent. All of this can be used against them in the future. They have proven that one judge can overturn literally any order from a president. They have opened Pandoras box! vic Attyah was the last Republican governor in Oregon circa early 80's. It was the 1800 the last time a republican was mayor of Portland. |
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