Posted: 9/25/2012 7:13:29 AM EDT
| Heard an employee tell another customer that it was illegal to open carry if you have a CHL. I'm pretty sure the guy was full of shit and I can't find anything about it online, can anyone help me out? |
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I'm no lawyer but I think you can open carry whether you have a CCW or not. The CCW just allows you to conceal your handgun. See that's what I was thinking but, I specifically heard, "It is against the law to open carry if you have a CHL" Looks like that store won't be patronized by me. |
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Found this after a quick search but it is from 2008....things might have changed since then. I'll wait for those in the know to chime in.
"Nothing in Ohio’s concealed carry law requires a license holder to carry their firearm strictly concealed. Rather, Ohio’s concealed carry law is mostly a series of exceptions to the existing criminal statutes. For instance, see Revised Code § 2923.12(C)(2). The main statute, § 2923.12(A)(2), prohibits carrying a concealed handgun, and section (C)(2) simply states that the main statute does not apply to someone with a Concealed Handgun License. While some states do require strict concealment by their license holders, Ohio has not taken this approach. Further, there is nothing in Ohio’s concealed carry law that requires a license holder to forfeit their constitutional and statutory right to bear arms in order to obtain a Concealed Handgun License. Thus, a person who has been issued a Concealed Handgun License may still openly carry a firearm if they chose to do so, provided all other laws are observed." |
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Open carry is 100% legal in Ohio regardless of whether you have a CHL.
In fact, CHL was pushed through, because people who carried openly were being harassed and charged for disturbing the peace on a regular basis. After our CHL laws were passed, an effort was made to get State law preemption on both concealed and open carry, because many municipalities were trying to go their own direction. In March 2007, the following statue became effective, and in December 2010, it was upheld by the Ohio Supreme Court in a 5-2 decision. 9.68 Right to bear arms - challenge to law. (A) The individual right to keep and bear arms, being a fundamental individual right that predates the United States Constitution and Ohio Constitution, and being a constitutionally protected right in every part of Ohio, the general assembly finds the need to provide uniform laws throughout the state regulating the ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition. Except as specifically provided by the United States Constitution, Ohio Constitution, state law, or federal law, a person, without further license, permission, restriction, delay, or process, may own, possess, purchase, sell, transfer, transport, store, or keep any firearm, part of a firearm, its components, and its ammunition. (B) In addition to any other relief provided, the court shall award costs and reasonable attorney fees to any person, group, or entity that prevails in a challenge to an ordinance, rule, or regulation as being in conflict with this section. (C) As used in this section: (1) The possession, transporting, or carrying of firearms, their components, or their ammunition include, but are not limited to, the possession, transporting, or carrying, openly or concealed on a person’s person or concealed ready at hand, of firearms, their components, or their ammunition. (2) “Firearm” has the same meaning as in section 2923.11 of the Revised Code. (D) This section does not apply to either of the following: (1) A zoning ordinance that regulates or prohibits the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for residential or agricultural uses; (2) A zoning ordinance that specifies the hours of operation or the geographic areas where the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms may occur, provided that the zoning ordinance is consistent with zoning ordinances for other retail establishments in the same geographic area and does not result in a de facto prohibition of the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial uses. 
ETA: Maybe you should print out my post, take it down to the gun shop and staple it to that guy's forehead bulletin board. |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. doesn't sound like the guy is very bright...... |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. Vandalia Tactical? |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. Vandalia Tactical? Negative. |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. Vandalia Tactical? Negative. Is it that little shop in Centerville, or the one behind the Dayton Mall on Kingsridge? |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. Vandalia Tactical? Negative. Is it that little shop in Centerville, or the one behind the Dayton Mall on Kingsridge? Nope, It's in Beavercreek. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. Vandalia Tactical? Negative. Is it that little shop in Centerville, or the one behind the Dayton Mall on Kingsridge? Nope, It's in Beavercreek. just tell us...  |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. Vandalia Tactical? Negative. Is it that little shop in Centerville, or the one behind the Dayton Mall on Kingsridge? Nope, It's in Beavercreek. Dayton Armory |
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That's what I thought. Thanks guys. I'm just not going to go in there anymore, don't need to support a store that gives out false information. If you were to do that, there wouldn't be any place where you could continue to shop. If it's a question of ignorance, educate him or just forget about it. Now, if he's misinforming people on purpose for some unknown reason, well, then we don't need to support those kinds of people. It's not just this. There was another Employee who pretty much told me its ok to use over 30rd magazines then later on was talking about buying a C-Mag because he had a Department Issued rifle, Meaning he was a police officer. I've already found a better place to go. This shop is in the Dayton area. Vandalia Tactical? Negative. Is it that little shop in Centerville, or the one behind the Dayton Mall on Kingsridge? Nope, It's in Beavercreek. Dayton Armory This |
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Buckeyefirearms.org recently had a writeup about how the Cincinnati Chief of Police issued a directive to his officers concerning open carry. Here is the story:
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Nope, It's in Beavercreek. Dayton Armory This That's surprising and disappointing. I go in there on occasion and haven't heard that kinda ignorance coming from them before. Will have to pay more attention when I'm in there. I though you was loyal to one of the other stores.. I still buy there when I need something and actually have the money to pay for it.
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