Posted: 10/25/2005 8:31:07 AM EDT
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We need a FAQ on the PR matches tacked in here. Should contain the usual "What, where and how much" type answers as well as an regular updates containing Randys email just before each match and results posted after. Not a thread to be used for breakfast meeting place announcements or trash talking(NoAim should like that ), just info. Suggestions? Smart ass comments? Anyone want to step up and maintain it? |
We should post a map, basic reqirements ( rifle, non-magnetic ammo, safety equip, ect.)..suggestions for chairs, munchies, demeanor ( ) Maybe a few pics of previous matches to get the excitment level up......stuff like that....I will ponder more on it today and get back to it tonight.Boo |
A link would be good, and even better if Randy would keep up with the site. Needs updating REALLY BAD! CH |
No, what is wrong is the fact that you actually have that saved on your computer 
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I couldn't resist 
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Checky linky..That there is one hundred percent bandwidth theft!
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Per the website:
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ammo deffently needs to be coverd a little better. this line in preticular does not sound right to me. IMPORTANT: NO STEEL CORE, ARMOR PIERCING AMMO IS ALLOWED AND WILL GET YOU THROWN OUT! it almost's sounds like Armor piercing is allowed but will get you thrown out. besides that very good job. might want to throw in knee pads, chairs for the people who dont like standing.. etc. deffently a thread that will grow over time methinks Jess |
At what point do you then put "Wear underware, put on socks before your shoes, wash your hands after you crap....." It's a guide, not a everything manual. I don't use nor find a reason to need knee pads. I also have rarely brought a chair and when I do it's only to hold my stuff off the ground. I tried to make the guide things YOU NEEDED or NEEDED to know. Like ammo, if you don't bring enough your SOL, but what caliber is up to you. |
TANKS BOO!
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Please do.. i've been to 3 matchs 2 real matchs and have shot in two.. and i am hooked this is deffently going to be a regular thing for me now.. the next match is Dec 10th.. its a night match so bring a good light and a way to mount it... also from what i've been hearing expect it to be wet n' cold i beleave we are starting at 6pm but show up at 4 for a good dinner. that Cover it Boo ay la master of da PR n00bs? |
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This is all I could find: This particular "Match" really is more of an opportunity to test your own skills, rather than how well one individual shoots compared to another. Shooting in a limited visibility environment is something very few shooters get to participate in (willingly). I say "willingly" because statisically speaking, most armed confrontations take place in near dark or dark conditions. How many of us train in those conditions? (myself included). Not only did we get that chance, but also the opportunity to shoot in very inclimant conditions as well, and if you don't think that cold and wet will affect your ability to perform, you are mistaken. There are two basic tasks that need to be accomplished during night ops. Task one is to IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET, task two is, of course, to HIT YOUR TARGET. Since human beings do not have very good night vision, we rely on equipment to aid us in these tasks. Equipment used by various individuals ranged from a flashlight zip-tied to the forend, lasers, red dot sights, illuminated reticle scopes, and the latest generation of US night vision equipment (ANPVS 7B's). It is worth noting that all the special equipment in use was subject to some form of failure. Specifically, I saw batterys run out on flashlights, flashlights not powerful enough for the ranges involved, lasers not properly aligned, lasers becoming loose (and therefore not aligned, or "zeroed"), laser beams being interfered with because of some environmental obstruction(s) (in this particular case, some branches from a tree that could not be avoided), water and/or fogging on the lenses of various optical sighting units and red dot sights (as you might imagine, this makes it a bit tough to see, moreso since it is already dark!), NVD's getting fogged up, and plain old weapons malfunctions (seems like the worst operating conditions for firearms are cold and wet (seems to form a sludge if much shooting has been done). Please understand, I am not knocking any equipment, some of the stuff is great, but there are always downsides and the wise operator will learn about the downsides beforehand and either fix them or work around them. In fact, one of the high points for me was using one of the participants 7B's (Night vision device, and they are WAY COOL! Thanks Bud!). Courses of fire were as follows: Stage one- Shooter started fully loaded with safety on next to a barrel. At the start signal the shooter takes ONE shot at each of six targets (placed in pairs next to each other), at ranges of 25 yards to 120 yards. Each hit earns one "point". The shooter is allowed 60 seconds to score as many points as possible. The two pairs of targets nearest the shooter were fairly small (8 inch discs), and the two at 120 were slightly smaller than our standard cardboard qual targets. Stage two- Shooter started fully loaded with safety on, behind a barrel. At the start signal the shooter engages six steel targets placed in a semi-circle 50-70 yards away, with ten yards between each. Once the shooter hits each target they move to a new position (about a 15 yard move), and again engages each of the six targets until hit. Score is the time it takes to complete the task. Stage three- Shooter started fully loaded, safety on, behind a barrel. On the start signal the shooter engages 12 small steel targets placed 50 yards away (8 inch and smaller, placed at varying heights). If the shooter determines they are missing too much, the shooter may do a tactical reload, then move to a barrel that is closer to the targets and hit the targets. If the shooter still is having problems getting hits, then the shooter may do another tactical reload, and move to yet another closer barrel and hit the targets. Score is the time it takes to get the task done. Stage four- Shooter starts fully loaded, safety on, standing on the side of a berm. There are two steel targets that are to be engaged, one at 120 yards and another at 140 yards, with about 70 yards between the two. On the start signal the shooter engages the left target until hit, then shifts to the right target and engages it until hit, then shift to the left target and engages until hit................ Each hit counts as one "point", and the shooter has 60 seconds to accumulate as many hits as possible during that time. The shooters feet must stay on the side of the berm, so laying down on the berm is not allowed, therefore, most of the shooting was done from a standing position, or the shooter could bring the support side foot up higher on the berm and rest the support elbow on that knee. Another issue was a tree that had branches that protruded just enough to interfere with the line of sight to the right target. Finally, the left target was dimly illuminated (very), and the right target had a light flashing on and off of it, creating a "now you see it now you don't" effect. This match provides one of the best training opportunities there is, especially so for the night match. After all, when was the last time you got to run and gun in the dark? Best regards Cpl. Harry |
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Thanks for the info TF, I appreciate it. CH, well, you never dissapoint me  Gack, asked becuase I wasn't sure if there was going to be any strong side to weak side transitions with the pistol. If there was and the possiblity of a reload involved, I was going to bring the XD (ambi mag release) vs my beretta. Thanks again guys, lookin forward to it. Hopefully the weather will calm down some huh? |
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Last year there was a pistol stage. You are changing a flat tire in the dark and are attacked. Engage close targets with pistol, move to trunk of car, remove rifle from case, move to other side of car and blast away at close targets a second time, followed by medium range targets. I didn't hang around that one much because I was tracking down duck tape for sleepyhead WS4lif's uber flashlight to rifle interface. He parked his Jaguar next to that stage and didn't get any bullet holes. 
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I'll get there early and see if I can suggest there are a couple mandatory mag changes. shit... that is a good idea. It is a night match, you should be able to load in the dark if you are a proficient rifleman, right? |
Should be able to I was just trying to be as prepared as I can be, guess I'll bring both and made a decision when I get there. Lookin forward to it! |
