Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
7/30/2008 5:03:51 AM EDT
Any of your buddies gonna take me in for wearing these in the five boroughs?



Just started the paperwork for a ccw, but have to go to nice places pretty often these days.

7/30/2008 6:34:26 AM EDT
[#1]
iF THEY ARE HANGING FROM A STRING AROUND YOUR NECK IN PLAIN SITE MAYBE. KEEP THEM IN YOUR POCKET YOU WILL BE FINE
7/30/2008 6:52:25 AM EDT
[#2]
I believe you should not have them clipped to your pocket an sticking out either. It has to be 100% in your pocket and not visible.
7/30/2008 7:29:01 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I believe you should not have them clipped to your pocket an sticking out either. It has to be 100% in your pocket and not visible.


how about IWB?
7/30/2008 8:15:02 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I believe you should not have them clipped to your pocket an sticking out either. It has to be 100% in your pocket and not visible.


how about IWB?


Same as carrying a concealed handgun. If any part of it is exposed or someone can visually determine that you're carrying it, it's not concealed.
7/30/2008 8:30:05 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I believe you should not have them clipped to your pocket an sticking out either. It has to be 100% in your pocket and not visible.


how about IWB?


Same as carrying a concealed handgun. If any part of it is exposed or someone can visually determine that you're carrying it, it's not concealed.


It's not automatic and blade is only 3 3/8 "... is that considered a ccw ???

IIRC, open carry of any blade (in nyc)  with intent to harm is a crime, open carry of any blade without intent to harm might be a problem, but concealed carry of a folding blade that's not a gravity knife, switchblade, auto, etc. with less than 4" should be ok, right?

just can't let any part be visible.

7/30/2008 9:01:03 AM EDT
[#6]
If you're carrying a knife in NYC it must be less than 4" and be carried concealed.  I'm not sure what the confusion is.
7/30/2008 9:19:05 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
If you're carrying a knife in NYC it must be less than 4" and be carried concealed.  I'm not sure what the confusion is.


that's all I need to know!  thanks
7/30/2008 10:16:51 AM EDT
[#8]
If you get stopped and they ask why the front of your flashlight is shaped liker that, IT'S NOT FOR PROTECTION!!! That would make it a Dangereous instrument.  Tell them the package said it's to keep it from rolling.
7/30/2008 1:51:36 PM EDT
[#9]
Counrty is going to hell in a handbasket when a simple folding knife evokes public handwringing. fuck I was born 40 years too late.
7/30/2008 1:54:30 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Counrty is going to hell in a handbasket when a simple folding knife evokes public handwringing. fuck I was born 40 years too late.


You and me both buddy!  I am firmly convinced I was born both in the wrong century and the  wrong geographical part of the country.
7/30/2008 2:25:06 PM EDT
[#11]
Also, a city guy looking for an easy pinch will look at the "assisted opening" of the Kershaw and that would be seen as a sping activated knife too. I'm not saying this because it is correct. I'm saying it because I ask lots of the former city guys who come through where I teach. Most say they'd lock you up for it and let the DA figure it out.
7/30/2008 6:24:36 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Also, a city guy looking for an easy pinch will look at the "assisted opening" of the Kershaw and that would be seen as a sping activated knife too. I'm not saying this because it is correct. I'm saying it because I ask lots of the former city guys who come through where I teach. Most say they'd lock you up for it and let the DA figure it out.


So nice to know that the NYPD is looking out for the rights of it's citizens.
7/31/2008 4:14:19 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Also, a city guy looking for an easy pinch will look at the "assisted opening" of the Kershaw and that would be seen as a sping activated knife too. I'm not saying this because it is correct. I'm saying it because I ask lots of the former city guys who come through where I teach. Most say they'd lock you up for it and let the DA figure it out.


Assisted openers do not use gravity, centrifugal force or a spring and there is no button in the handle or anywhere else. Assisted openers also do not open automatically. If you're concerned get a CRKT M-16 which can be opened one handed just as easily as an assisted opener. A utility knife that can't be opened easily with one hand is useless for rescue purposes if one of your arms or hands is injured.  

4. "Switchblade knife" means any knife which has a blade  which  opens
 automatically  by  hand  pressure  applied  to a button, spring or other
 device in the handle of the knife.
   5. "Gravity knife" means any knife which has a blade which is released
 from the handle or sheath  thereof  by  the  force  of  gravity  or  the
 application  of  centrifugal  force  which,  when released, is locked in
 place by means of a button, spring, lever or other device.
   5-a. "Pilum ballistic knife" means any knife which has a  blade  which
 can  be  projected from the handle by hand pressure applied to a button,
 lever, spring or other device in the handle of the knife.
7/31/2008 4:30:03 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Any of your buddies gonna take me in for wearing these in the five boroughs?

photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/230/109/689724430/n689724430_557625_4140.jpg

Just started the paperwork for a ccw, but have to go to nice places pretty often these days.



If they were going to take you in for just that, then they aren't my buddies!
7/31/2008 4:37:25 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Also, a city guy looking for an easy pinch will look at the "assisted opening" of the Kershaw and that would be seen as a sping activated knife too. I'm not saying this because it is correct. I'm saying it because I ask lots of the former city guys who come through where I teach. Most say they'd lock you up for it and let the DA figure it out.


Assisted openers do not use gravity, centrifugal force or a spring and there is no button in the handle or anywhere else. Assisted openers also do not open automatically. If you're concerned get a CRKT M-16 which can be opened one handed just as easily as an assisted opener. A utility knife that can't be opened easily with one hand is useless for rescue purposes if one of your arms or hands is injured.  

4. "Switchblade knife" means any knife which has a blade  which  opens
 automatically  by  hand  pressure  applied  to a button, spring or other
 device in the handle of the knife.
   5. "Gravity knife" means any knife which has a blade which is released
 from the handle or sheath  thereof  by  the  force  of  gravity  or  the
 application  of  centrifugal  force  which,  when released, is locked in
 place by means of a button, spring, lever or other device.
   5-a. "Pilum ballistic knife" means any knife which has a  blade  which
 can  be  projected from the handle by hand pressure applied to a button,
 lever, spring or other device in the handle of the knife.



I'm not worried about getting pinched for a so-called semi-auto knife.

but since you brought it up, this guy is always in my car:


very 'tough' knife. a little too bulky too carry.  GREATEST clip in the business imo.

(I used to keep a cold steel recon 1 in my car.  nice big knife, but I wanted only folding knives under 4" when I moved to ny.  the cold steel is 4" exact.)
7/31/2008 10:14:59 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Also, a city guy looking for an easy pinch will look at the "assisted opening" of the Kershaw and that would be seen as a sping activated knife too. I'm not saying this because it is correct. I'm saying it because I ask lots of the former city guys who come through where I teach. Most say they'd lock you up for it and let the DA figure it out.


Assisted openers do not use gravity, centrifugal force or a spring and there is no button in the handle or anywhere else. Assisted openers also do not open automatically. If you're concerned get a CRKT M-16 which can be opened one handed just as easily as an assisted opener. A utility knife that can't be opened easily with one hand is useless for rescue purposes if one of your arms or hands is injured.  

4. "Switchblade knife" means any knife which has a blade  which  opens
 automatically  by  hand  pressure  applied  to a button, spring or other
 device in the handle of the knife.
   5. "Gravity knife" means any knife which has a blade which is released
 from the handle or sheath  thereof  by  the  force  of  gravity  or  the
 application  of  centrifugal  force  which,  when released, is locked in
 place by means of a button, spring, lever or other device.
   5-a. "Pilum ballistic knife" means any knife which has a  blade  which
 can  be  projected from the handle by hand pressure applied to a button,
 lever, spring or other device in the handle of the knife.



The above laws "loosly interpreted" are really what the officerS cited they could arrest for. They stated that if a folder with a loose screw could be made to open with centrifugal force then that met the criteria for a gravity knife. That a knife that, with a bit of hand pressure "sprung open" and locked, again, they could charge it.
7/31/2008 12:28:20 PM EDT
[#17]
I was stopped by NYPD in the subway when they saw a clip from my folding utility knife. It was on the day that I threw out the blade from it as it got dull and didn't put a replacement one in. I told them that it has no blade. The response was: "So it's a knife without a blade. Still a knife, though". It also didn't matter that I had an EMT license and that I work in construction industry. Luckily they saw a PBA card in my wallet and let me go. Idiots! I stopped carrying that knife. I got a Gerber Artifact with a folding exacto blade and have it in my pocket.
Close Join Our Mail List to Stay Up To Date! Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.


By signing up you agree to our User Agreement. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win.