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2/14/2012 1:12:48 PM EDT
Do you instill corporal punishment on your kids when they step out of line?

In other words, do you dish out a spanking when needed?
2/14/2012 1:32:19 PM EDT
[#1]
Saw a guy in court for this today...remember, we all taught your kids how to call 9-1-1, they may use it.
2/14/2012 1:42:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes but I never spank when I am pissed.  If I am pissed I put them on the step and they have time out.  Then after 5 minutes on the step I decide if the misdeed rates a spank.  Spanking is only used when they either put themselves in grave danger or hit/punch/bite/kick someone
2/14/2012 2:10:56 PM EDT
[#3]
You're right. I refrain from the spanking whilst hot.
2/14/2012 2:14:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Yes but I never spank when I am pissed.  If I am pissed I put them on the step and they have time out.  Then after 5 minutes on the step I decide if the misdeed rates a spank.  Spanking is only used when they either put themselves in grave danger or hit/punch/bite/kick someone


Pretty much this. I have a 2-year-old boy and a 4-year-old girl. The boy thinks he is a badass sometimes and the girl is a manipulator. They love each other though. Mutual timeout seems to work well when I only catch one in the act but suspect there was instigation. I try to remain calm. The girl I have rarely spanked and the one time I can really remember is when she tried to play games in a parking lot a few months ago by running away between some cars. She got immediate application of a spanking right there.
2/14/2012 2:48:21 PM EDT
[#5]
It's a tool in my parenting tool box used much less frequently than the others, but generally yielding the desired outcome.
2/14/2012 5:38:21 PM EDT
[#6]



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It's a tool in my parenting tool box used much less frequently than the others, but generally yielding the desired outcome.


Wow well said.



Yes it is necessary if it gets to that point. unfortunately



 
2/14/2012 6:02:09 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Saw a guy in court for this today...remember, we all taught your kids how to call 9-1-1, they may use it.


Must be more to the story than a traditional whack in the ass.
2/15/2012 3:15:10 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Saw a guy in court for this today...remember, we all taught your kids how to call 9-1-1, they may use it.


Let them. NYS law allows the use of corporal punishment by parents. Just don't get carried away and leave bruises
2/15/2012 11:27:57 AM EDT
[#9]
I raised 3 daughters, now aged 22, 20 and 18 years.  I believe spanking is an acceptable form of punishment, but with my daughters, I never found it necessary.  A word or the "look" was always enough.



And they have all turned out pretty well.  No drugs or drinking issues.  Successful in school and at work.  But I understand some kids need some physical correction.


 
2/15/2012 5:56:55 PM EDT
[#10]
I do, worked on my daughter well, only had to do it once, but I've found something better, video tape her being a brat and threaten to send it to her friends, works 1000x better. my little guy enjoys it i think, he taunts me by dropping his pants and says "go ahead, spank me" I swear he's satan's spawn some times. taking away his stuff works way better. My oldest who is now 15 never even needed the threat of spanking.
2/16/2012 3:41:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Never had to, I don't even yell.  I've only raised my voice once or twice, I just have to give a look.  I'll wait till she's in her teens to raise the bar.
2/17/2012 5:16:07 AM EDT
[#12]
they are teaching the kids in school to report stuff going on in their lives

they give them "info" which leads them to rat on their parents

for example:  drinking (or whatever ) is unhealthy...and if your parents are
doing what ever behavior....they are sick and need help...we can get them help
so let us know...and we can help

then cps comes takes the kids and you are screwed

so....be real careful w/ coporal punishment

short story
daughter was smoking in garage with friend...cigarette....14 years old
neighbor saw and called me...i busted them....friend called police on me
saying i was beating my daughter....cops came...investigated....
no signs of abuse (of course) but i was put on a 90 day watch list

asked the policeman:  she plays field hockey and comes home with bruises
cop said:  they are going to check her for bruises in school and if they find
one you are going to jail

so...you are guilty until proven innocent.......

times are very different now

oh btw....daugher is 40 now and now has her own kids....
some times karma can be a bitch

2/18/2012 5:53:29 PM EDT
[#13]



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Saw a guy in court for this today...remember, we all taught your kids how to call 9-1-1, they may use it.


corporal punishment is not illegal in NY, leaving marks or using some kind of item-belt, paddle etc will land you in trouble.

 
2/18/2012 7:53:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Saw a guy in court for this today...remember, we all taught your kids how to call 9-1-1, they may use it.

corporal punishment is not illegal in NY, leaving marks or using some kind of item-belt, paddle etc will land you in trouble.  


It was a belt iirc.
2/18/2012 10:58:01 PM EDT
[#15]
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Saw a guy in court for this today...remember, we all taught your kids how to call 9-1-1, they may use it.

corporal punishment is not illegal in NY, leaving marks or using some kind of item-belt, paddle etc will land you in trouble.  


It was a belt iirc.


Then its his own fault for not stopping before he left marks, if thats what happened.
You can deliever the message without causing injury
2/19/2012 7:59:58 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
It's a tool in my parenting tool box used much less frequently than the others, but generally yielding the desired outcome.


this.
2/19/2012 10:04:51 AM EDT
[#17]
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Saw a guy in court for this today...remember, we all taught your kids how to call 9-1-1, they may use it.

corporal punishment is not illegal in NY, leaving marks or using some kind of item-belt, paddle etc will land you in trouble.  


It was a belt iirc.


Then its his own fault for not stopping before he left marks, if thats what happened.
You can deliever the message without causing injury


Trouble is, with arraignment being a joke, you might end up sitting in jail on $100,000 bond just based on the police report.
2/19/2012 10:31:55 AM EDT
[#18]
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Trouble is, with arraignment being a joke, you might end up sitting in jail on $100,000 bond just based on the police report.


How so? Police report of what? Without having caused injury, the parental use of corporal punishment falls under the existing state law.
2/19/2012 11:22:23 AM EDT
[#19]
It's just a probable cause finding and if the police report indicates that XYZ witnesses reported a disproportionate beating, it may not require severe or any injury.

Basically you get a string of presumptions, the police presume that just because someone called 911, it was serious enough to warrant a report and arrest.  The judge presumes that because it was serious enough to take a report, that your case should proceed, with or without bond, and by the time someone figures out that nothing really happened, you've spent a few nights in jail and you're out a few thousand dollars.
2/19/2012 12:03:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
It's just a probable cause finding and if the police report indicates that XYZ witnesses reported a disproportionate beating, it may not require severe or any injury.

Basically you get a string of presumptions, the police presume that just because someone called 911, it was serious enough to warrant a report and arrest.  The judge presumes that because it was serious enough to take a report, that your case should proceed, with or without bond, and by the time someone figures out that nothing really happened, you've spent a few nights in jail and you're out a few thousand dollars.


An officer isn't going to arrest a parent because someone called in witnessing something but upon officers investigation no evidence of injury was found.
2/19/2012 12:44:42 PM EDT
[#21]
as a kid I was beat...I don't mean by hand either.  so I have never raised a hand to my kids in anger. yes if they were grabbing for something they shouldn't have I would lighty slap their hand, or maybe give them a pat on the bottom. if your kid is that out of control that you have to whip them with a belt or slap them in the face it's the parents fault not the kids.
my kids are now 22,16,14 and all are great kids that don't steal, don't lie, and respect others. they were always taught...treat others how you want to be treated.

No such thing as a bad kid, it's bad parenting.
2/19/2012 2:25:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
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It's just a probable cause finding and if the police report indicates that XYZ witnesses reported a disproportionate beating, it may not require severe or any injury.

Basically you get a string of presumptions, the police presume that just because someone called 911, it was serious enough to warrant a report and arrest.  The judge presumes that because it was serious enough to take a report, that your case should proceed, with or without bond, and by the time someone figures out that nothing really happened, you've spent a few nights in jail and you're out a few thousand dollars.


An officer isn't going to arrest a parent because someone called in witnessing something but upon officers investigation no evidence of injury was found.


Because a cop has never added a fact or two to put the screws on someone they really believed deserved some time behind bars...
2/19/2012 2:57:57 PM EDT
[#23]
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Because a cop has never added a fact or two to put the screws on someone they really believed deserved some time behind bars...


We have enough work to do without making extra work for ourselves.

I know that goes against the paranoia of  those who are comspiracy-minded, but it's the truth.

Bottom line , the officer would need to demonstrate that some form of physical injury took place that went above and beyond normal force used in discipline. Just how is the officer going to fabricate this vital piece of information?
2/20/2012 7:12:51 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Saw a guy in court for this today...remember, we all taught your kids how to call 9-1-1, they may use it.


There is a difference between abuse and corporal punishment which is specifically spelled out in the NYS penal law...
A parent can be charged for not maintaining control over their child.  Its also in the justifications sections etc...

my work number is 911
2/21/2012 5:09:28 AM EDT
[#25]
It is easier to manage kids with psychology than corporal punishment.

Here's a popular book, though I think it's a bit unrealistic

http://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Kids-Will-Listen/dp/1451663889/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329833053&sr=8-1

And here's one for kids up to 6 YO (though the concepts work all the way through adulthood and in the business world as well).

http://www.amazon.com/Love-Logic-Magic-Early-Childhood/dp/1930429002/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1329833126&sr=1-2

When I first read the book I thought it was rubbish, no way this would work- but I tried it, and was stupified (yes, not just amazed, but left completely stupid) that the results came in days.    I highly recommend the latter book, even if your kids are older than 6.
2/21/2012 1:13:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Nothing wrong with reasonable and necessary corporal punishment.  My kids are past the age of spanking.
2/22/2012 12:32:34 AM EDT
[#27]
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It is easier to manage kids with psychology than corporal punishment.
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There is a time and a place for both methods.

Spare the [ hand] and spoil the child.